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WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:36 pm

BAD RUN OF RESULTS - that I can handle!!
INJURY CRISIS - that I can handle!

but a full team!, a 20k a week striker not scoring goals! a flat midfield who were earlier on in the season free scoring, a sloppy unfocused defence (of which today has improved) i'l give some credit. That I cannot fu**ing handle

whatever malky has said or done to the players to get this kind of response I dont know whether he's lost his bottle and mind is elsewhere or whether the players are just flat and responding badly and performing bad for their own reasons...

but he needs to sort it, the f*** out!!!!!

if the players are tired, change them, if they aren't giving 100% give the likes of earnshaw, blake or even kadeem haris a game... 3 players who are all hungry for success,

I'm starting to feel we have a team of players who turn up put their shift in earn their wages, they dont have the hunger for it , they dont have the bottle for it, they are happy just being in the championship getting a game and thats that.

only thing I can come up with regarding cup hangover is alot of our players know this may will be their last or only chance to play in the europa league and I can understand that effecting your morale and your performance,
If I put myself in cowie/miller/macnaughton/hudsons shoes, I would devastated Ive missed out on european football by a margin.

either way we need an answer! giving earnshaw 12 minutes is well and good, but when you have a under performing striker, due to the fact he has no link up of real quality, you would think we could bring in someone on loan even if they're experienced and on par of what we have

oppinions?

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:42 pm

A £9k a week striker scoring goals at Scunthorpe atm :o

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:15 am

TopCat CCFC wrote:A £9k a week striker scoring goals at Scunthorpe atm :o


9k a week for a 100,000 striker , :lol:

if a player costs 10 million, you dont pay him £900,000 a week

is 9k average in championship or just at our club where we pay them extra for losing cup finals

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:17 am

sloper_road_legend wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:A £9k a week striker scoring goals at Scunthorpe atm :o


9k a week for a 100,000 striker , :lol:

if a player costs 10 million, you dont pay him £900,000 a week

is 9k average in championship or just at our club where we pay them extra for losing cup finals


If he is not wanted then rip his contact up and agree a figure. Surely if we did that on the players which MM clearly will not play then it would save the club thousands

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:22 am

Angry Man wrote:
sloper_road_legend wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:A £9k a week striker scoring goals at Scunthorpe atm :o


9k a week for a 100,000 striker , :lol:

if a player costs 10 million, you dont pay him £900,000 a week

is 9k average in championship or just at our club where we pay them extra for losing cup finals


If he is not wanted then rip his contact up and agree a figure. Surely if we did that on the players which MM clearly will not play then it would save the club thousands


It cant be that simple, if you were getting £9000 a week, would you agree to have your contract terminated?

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:22 am

Angry Man wrote:
sloper_road_legend wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:A £9k a week striker scoring goals at Scunthorpe atm :o


9k a week for a 100,000 striker , :lol:

if a player costs 10 million, you dont pay him £900,000 a week

is 9k average in championship or just at our club where we pay them extra for losing cup finals


If he is not wanted then rip his contact up and agree a figure. Surely if we did that on the players which MM clearly will not play then it would save the club thousands


The player also has to agree to this.

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:23 am

Triangles wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
sloper_road_legend wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:A £9k a week striker scoring goals at Scunthorpe atm :o


9k a week for a 100,000 striker , :lol:

if a player costs 10 million, you dont pay him £900,000 a week

is 9k average in championship or just at our club where we pay them extra for losing cup finals


If he is not wanted then rip his contact up and agree a figure. Surely if we did that on the players which MM clearly will not play then it would save the club thousands


The player also has to agree to this.


No they don't as an employer can make the employee redundant

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:25 am

Surely the position isn't redundant

Do we know Scunthorpe are paying nothing then?

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Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:26 am

For £9k a week last season you could have had Jay - Rossco - Burkey to name just 3 .

The point i am making,which AM has made is - why do we have players still at this club who do not get game time but are being payed,when they could be moved on and new faces brought in.

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:27 am

Angry Man wrote:
Triangles wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
sloper_road_legend wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:A £9k a week striker scoring goals at Scunthorpe atm :o


9k a week for a 100,000 striker , :lol:

if a player costs 10 million, you dont pay him £900,000 a week

is 9k average in championship or just at our club where we pay them extra for losing cup finals


If he is not wanted then rip his contact up and agree a figure. Surely if we did that on the players which MM clearly will not play then it would save the club thousands


The player also has to agree to this.


No they don't as an employer can make the employee redundant


Well I learn something everyday. Never heard of a footballer being made redundant whilst under contract.

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:28 am

TopCat CCFC wrote:For £9k a week last season you could have had Jay - Rossco - Burkey to name just 3 .

The point i am making,which AM has made is - why do we have players still at this club who do not get game time but are being payed,when they could be moved on and new faces brought in.


Excatly TC, with financial management like that its plain to see why the debts have risen..?

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:32 am

TopCat CCFC wrote:For £9k a week last season you could have had Jay - Rossco - Burkey to name just 3 .

The point i am making,which AM has made is - why do we have players still at this club who do not get game time but are being payed,when they could be moved on and new faces brought in.


How can they be moved on though?

Mutual termination? Parkin would never agree to that.
Sale? No one will match the wages.
Paying him up is pointless and costly.

He is being loaned to reduced the outgoing. I would guess they are paying part of his wages.

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:35 am

2blue2handle wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:For £9k a week last season you could have had Jay - Rossco - Burkey to name just 3 .

The point i am making,which AM has made is - why do we have players still at this club who do not get game time but are being payed,when they could be moved on and new faces brought in.


How can they be moved on though?

Mutual termination? Parkin would never agree to that.
Sale? No one will match the wages.
Paying him up is pointless and costly.

He is being loaned to reduced the outgoing. I would guess they are paying part of his wages.


But its not just Parkin is it. MM refuses to play many players and I'm sure a number of them would agree a settlement just to rescue their playing careers

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Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:40 am

They would want the vast majority of there wages in a one off settlement. It's massively costly especially as a one off payment.

Loaning them out means weekly payments, loan money coming into the club, if they do well the chance of a sale.
Even if we settle with them it still costs the money.

If they were happy to take less money they could join another club at reduce wages anyway. They don't tho, they want it all.

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:42 am

2blue2handle wrote:They would want the vast majority of there wages in a one off settlement. It's massively costly especially as a one off payment.

Loaning them out means weekly payments, loan money coming into the club, if they do well the chance of a sale.
Even if we settle with them it still costs the money.

If they were happy to take less money they could join another club at reduce wages anyway. They don't tho, they want it all.


How do you know..? Kienan was happy to take less wages for a premanent move to Palace but City wanted a fee for him yet they never play him!!

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:43 am

Thats up to the club if they want to recoup money for a transfer fee paid.

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:44 am

2blue2handle wrote:Thats up to the club if they want to recoup money for a transfer fee paid.


Surely by keeping him on the wage sheet it would cost the club more money in the long term!!!

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:46 am

I guess mm just wanted to keep 4 CB's at the club.
He will be gone in the summer no doubt.

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:48 am

2blue2handle wrote:I guess mm just wanted to keep 4 CB's at the club.
He will be gone in the summer no doubt.


Just be honest and admit that examples like this are a waste of finances by the club

Re: WHAT THE FU** IS GOING ON !

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:55 am

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I guess mm just wanted to keep 4 CB's at the club.
He will be gone in the summer no doubt.


Just be honest and admit that examples like this are a waste of finances by the club


I'd have lost about 6 players if we could just cut them but it isn't do simple