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" Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:05 pm

Please be aware of the ground rule 16 & 19 set NOT by Cardiff City but the Football League 2012 when entering the ground


Photographing the Football League or Premier League
Hopefully this will become a sticky to clear up this issue once and for all.

The rules governing photography at Football League or Premier League grounds are thus:

Quote:
No person (other than a person who holds an appropriate licence) may bring into (or use within) the Ground any equipment which is capable of recording or transmitting (by digital or other means) any audio, visual or audio-visual material or any data or information in relation to the Match or any aspect of it.

However, Mobile telephones are permitted within the Ground, provided that they are used for personal and private use only PROVIDED THAT no audio, visual or audio-visual mateiral captured by a mobile telephone may be published or otherwise made available to any third parties including, without limitation, via social networking sites.
Source: The FA Ground Regulations applicable to ALL Football League and Premier League stadia, or stadia where Football League or Premier League teams play.

In reality, many clubs will turn a blind eye towards photography using small P&S style cameras. However, this is in contravention of the rules set out by the Football League and Premier League (and it's authorised body the Football DataCo).

Should the Football DataCo wish to enforce more rigourously the rules surrounding photography at Football League/Premier League stadia, then this WILL be enforced and the following is the sanction:

Quote:
The Club, any police officer or authorised steward may refuse entry to (or eject from) the Ground any person that fails (or in the Club's reasonable opinion is likely to fail) to comply with these Ground Regulations or any reasonable instruction issued by a police officer or authorised steward.

Refused entry to (or ejection from) the Ground may lead to further action by the club, including, but not limited to, the withdrawl of any season ticket (without reimbursement), Club Membership and other benefits.
Source: The FA Ground Regulations applicable to ALL Football League and Premier League stadia, or stadia where Football League or Premier League teams play.

Football League and Premier League teams which these rules apply to are;
1st Team
Reserve Teams
Youth Teams

and the rules apply at whichever stadium or ground those teams play at.

These rules apply to the warm-ups, match itself or even being in the stadium under the terms of those Ground Regulations (which generally speaking would be any time on a match-day). Tours of the ground would (I imagine) be exempt from these rules. However, it is wise to check with the Club first in all situations where you think it might not be applicable.

The other issue is that many Clubs themselves are not 100% sure of the rules. If you emailed all 92 Football League clubs you would probably get 92 different answers about whether photography is allowed.

The bottom line is that these ground regulations specifically forbid photography by ticket-holders (and licence-holders UNLESS you are attending the fixture under the terms of your licence - no sneaky snaps from the stands) regardless of what their information or customer service people may say.

It is simply not worth the risk or potential sanction to yourself from attempting to illicitly photograph games at Football League or Premier League stadia.

These rules have been put in place and whether or not you personally agree with them, if you enter a Football League/Premier League ground you agree to abide by them.

Re: Ground rules BEWARE!!

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:06 pm

I hate the ever increasing police intervention in football. Just f**k off once and for all.

Re: Ground rules BEWARE!!

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:08 pm

No problem down the CCS today then Chief. As i didn't witness any Football being played :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Ground rules BEWARE!!

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:10 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:No problem down the CCS today then Chief. As i didn't witness any Football being played :lol: :lol: :lol:





:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Ground rules BEWARE!!

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:16 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:No problem down the CCS today then Chief. As i didn't witness any Football being played :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nice one chief :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Ground rules BEWARE!!

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:36 pm

The Lad wrote:I hate the ever increasing police intervention in football. Just f**k off once and for all.

This isn't a police issue - its the FL / PL / FA trying to protect the exclusivity of the broadcasting rights which they sell for a huge amount. In reality i think there'd be uproar if they genuinely enforced this and fans weren't able to take the occasional photo during a game.

Re: " Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:25 pm

I was warned at Leicester when we played the first leg of our playoff semi.
Because I had a camara on me going through the turnstiles.

Re: " Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:40 am

They can shove that rule up their arse for all I care

Re: " Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:08 am

he's only whinging coz i he got caught lol
and the funny bit, is he didnt have his big camera on him lol

but on a serious note, as i take pictures as well, it is becoming bit of a police state, what the hell am i gonna do with photos off my 10mg digital ????
other than share them all with you
also on the front of recording or transmitting audio, we all do that the minute we answer our phone inside the ground. 8-)

Re: " Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:00 pm

Can you imagine what it would be like recording sound at the CCS :?:
2 mins to kick off Sooo support the Boys and make some noiseeeee

0- 45 mins

















Referee blows for half time BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

45 MINS TO FULL TIME






















FULL TIME BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Well that was it :lol: :lol:

Re: " Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:45 pm

f**k that, If I want to record/photograph something, I will, I have no interest in protecting their broadcasting rights :lol:

Re: " Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:00 pm

What a load of bollox, unless they mean people that take a camcorder and stream it live. But I like to capture small vids and pictures while I'm at the games, the only vids I record on my phone are free kicks and corners and our crowd when they sing and sometimes start and end game. Mabey if they (sky sports) didn't rob people for there over priced subscriptions people wouldn't resort to live streaming on computers. The people that do the live streams ain't at the game though are they? If they are then that has to be someone who works in the club on the cameras or mabey someone who has sky sports and uploads it to the net live.

Re: " Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:19 pm

They ignored it. I took pics with my P&S in front of a steward at Wembley and the CCS.

Re: " Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:30 pm

Breaking News **** Jon Candy has now exchanged his camera for a point and click :lol:

Re: " Ground rules BEWARE!! "

Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:24 am

Just for you to know.

Yes you can not take photos inside the stadium, it is a rule of entry. But you CAN take photos outside of anything you want. It's a public place and there's no laws preventing you from taking photos of stewards, police, or anyone.

Also if you do take photos inside the stadium and you are picked up on it. The police or stewards can basically remove you from the ground. BUT they CANNOT touch your camera or it's contents. They can't for instance force you to delete photos from it or confiscate the camera.

Just for you to know there are lots of photographers - both professional and amateur suing police forces all over the country at the moment. These are cases where police have stopped people taking photos in public places, or for wrongful detainment, or for taking the camera away etc. I've heard the pay-off's have been quite big as well. The London Met has issued guidelines to their officers but some of the other forces have yet to do this. Regards stewards, issuing guidelines to them is a bit pointless due to them not being able to read. So you'll get problems from those all over the country. Suing them though would be really easy and really fruitful because they are more likely to be overzealous.

That law about cameras and terrorism was scrapped by the powers that be basically because the police couldn't be trusted to use the law with a bit of common sense.