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" I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:15 pm

Why we never bought in Oct/Nov/January.

Then later we had Millions from the Carling Cup and we still never.

I said months ago, something does not add up and I stand by that.

I am very sceptical of the whole thing, maybe thats just me.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:04 pm

You are not alone Annis , something doesnt touch base . Seems to me the club has abandoned this season! Im open to persuasion otherwise but actions speak louder than words !!!

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:05 pm

Coco wrote:You are not alone Annis , something doesnt touch base . Seems to me the club has abandoned this season! Im open to persuasion otherwise but actions speak louder than words !!!


Thats my favourite saying, action speaks louder than words, thats all we get is words.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:15 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Why we never bought in Oct/Nov/January.

Then later we had Millions from the Carling Cup and we still never.

I said months ago, something does not add up and I stand by that.

I am very sceptical of the whole thing, maybe thats just me.



what concerns me more is! ok i understand for restraint financially but what is to say we will have money to spend next season? given whats happened this season when promotion is in our grasp! we need a satement good or bad from club as to plans regarding players, not this we support manager crap honesty would help fans will be understanding personally i dont mind slow building programme as long as its made clear!

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:18 pm

Maybe we don't want to spend big urgentlhy this year, wait till next season, far more stable and re-invest with this cash, will probably happen, 2 year plans sounds perfect, more than we could have wished for, we'll see.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:22 pm

Annis if they don't win tmoro I don't Wana sound negative but playoffs will b very unlikely! Esp with every1 playing each other today

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:22 pm

CCFC 24 wrote:Maybe we don't want to spend big urgentlhy this year, wait till next season, far more stable and re-invest with this cash, will probably happen, 2 year plans sounds perfect, more than we could have wished for, we'll see.



i cant see how we will be more stable next season... the debt keeps going up daily ... especially if we dont make the play offs at the very least.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:34 pm

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:
CCFC 24 wrote:Maybe we don't want to spend big urgentlhy this year, wait till next season, far more stable and re-invest with this cash, will probably happen, 2 year plans sounds perfect, more than we could have wished for, we'll see.



i cant see how we will be more stable next season... the debt keeps going up daily ... especially if we dont make the play offs at the very least.


Agree

The post you reply to is the most annoying and frustrating line rolled out on here. Its almost as if instead of wanting to kick on we should make sure we go down and finish 10th-12th as it wasnt in the so called "plan" to finish above mid table this year. :evil:

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:35 pm

Deffinately not alone.. I been banging on about it for ages to my mates, they finally agreed on the coach to wembley that things don't seem right..
I still think we should have gone for Jason Roberts, what a bargain he would have been... My in laws reading season ticket holders and they didnt expect anything this season as they were playing shit.

Come on city get some f*cking cash out or tell us what your plans are

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:09 pm

polo wrote:
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:
CCFC 24 wrote:Maybe we don't want to spend big urgentlhy this year, wait till next season, far more stable and re-invest with this cash, will probably happen, 2 year plans sounds perfect, more than we could have wished for, we'll see.



i cant see how we will be more stable next season... the debt keeps going up daily ... especially if we dont make the play offs at the very least.


Agree

The post you reply to is the most annoying and frustrating line rolled out on here. Its almost as if instead of wanting to kick on we should make sure we go down and finish 10th-12th as it wasnt in the so called "plan" to finish above mid table this year. :evil:



Our debts will be no better than this season, actually more if we don't sell as many season tickets. Plus interest is mounting to PMG and Langston.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:12 pm

perhaps the new director put the blocks on spending for some unknown reason. :old:

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:40 pm

beano1 wrote:perhaps the new director put the blocks on spending for some unknown reason. :old:



Hmm, the new Director is on board for other reasons.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:23 am

you are 2 or 3 players away from a top 2 side,,you should be concernd about the lack of money for the team
if they have so much money then they should have given money in jan for that extra spark every club needs to give a final push,,as we did with borini last season.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:26 am

Forever Blue wrote:Why we never bought in Oct/Nov/January.

Then later we had Millions from the Carling Cup and we still never.

I said months ago, something does not add up and I stand by that.

I am very sceptical of the whole thing, maybe thats just me.


Annis you know my feelings on this, something is not quite right behind the scenes and if we dont sign any one next week then i feel weve all been bullshitted to but in a polite way.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:26 am

swansealad69 wrote:you are 2 or 3 players away from a top 2 side,,you should be concernd about the lack of money for the team
if they have so much money then they should have given money in jan for that extra spark every club needs to give a final push,,as we did with borini last season.


That was my major concern and we never did it and that why we are struggling now.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:34 am

nobby wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why we never bought in Oct/Nov/January.

Then later we had Millions from the Carling Cup and we still never.

I said months ago, something does not add up and I stand by that.

I am very sceptical of the whole thing, maybe thats just me.


Annis you know my feelings on this, something is not quite right behind the scenes and if we dont sign any one next week then i feel weve all been bullshitted to but in a polite way.

Wont be the 1st time and wont be the last

TG and VT like their little trips to wembley but they have been nowhere to be seen in the transfer window

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:50 am

nobby wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why we never bought in Oct/Nov/January.

Then later we had Millions from the Carling Cup and we still never.

I said months ago, something does not add up and I stand by that.

I am very sceptical of the whole thing, maybe thats just me.


Annis you know my feelings on this, something is not quite right behind the scenes and if we dont sign any one next week then i feel weve all been bullshitted to but in a polite way.


Dai, we have the same feelings on this issue.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:52 am

polo wrote:
nobby wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why we never bought in Oct/Nov/January.

Then later we had Millions from the Carling Cup and we still never.

I said months ago, something does not add up and I stand by that.

I am very sceptical of the whole thing, maybe thats just me.


Annis you know my feelings on this, something is not quite right behind the scenes and if we dont sign any one next week then i feel weve all been bullshitted to but in a polite way.

Wont be the 1st time and wont be the last

TG and VT like their little trips to wembley but they have been nowhere to be seen in the transfer window


Polo, your getting very close to the truth, but if I say to much, I get called negative and not grateful to them. :roll:

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:59 am

Forever Blue wrote:
polo wrote:
nobby wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why we never bought in Oct/Nov/January.

Then later we had Millions from the Carling Cup and we still never.

I said months ago, something does not add up and I stand by that.

I am very sceptical of the whole thing, maybe thats just me.


Annis you know my feelings on this, something is not quite right behind the scenes and if we dont sign any one next week then i feel weve all been bullshitted to but in a polite way.

Wont be the 1st time and wont be the last

TG and VT like their little trips to wembley but they have been nowhere to be seen in the transfer window


Polo, your getting very close to the truth, but if I say to much, I get called negative and not grateful to them. :roll:


If we dont sign anyone next week, there will be a hell of a lot more agreeing with us i feel. :ayatollah:

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:09 am

CCFC 24 wrote:Maybe we don't want to spend big urgentlhy this year, wait till next season, far more stable and re-invest with this cash, will probably happen, 2 year plans sounds perfect, more than we could have wished for, we'll see.


I agree with this post

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:00 am

jinks-rct wrote:
CCFC 24 wrote:Maybe we don't want to spend big urgentlhy this year, wait till next season, far more stable and re-invest with this cash, will probably happen, 2 year plans sounds perfect, more than we could have wished for, we'll see.


I agree with this post


We will still have the same debts around our necks. When your up there and so close, you should then go for it.
If we fail this season, season ticket sales will be well done, other incomes will be well done, then what do you do next ?

We will have to spend next Summer to convince the floaters. I agree we will off load at least 9-10 players and there are no DJ & Co wages anymore, but Malky will def need fully backing and fans vote with their feet, they will want to see ambition, not just talk.

If the income is down next season and the debts higher, how will we be better off ?

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:16 am

Forever Blue wrote:Why we never bought in Oct/Nov/January.

Then later we had Millions from the Carling Cup and we still never.

I said months ago, something does not add up and I stand by that.

I am very sceptical of the whole thing, maybe thats just me.


Totally agree with you mate. As I said, club seem to be crowd pleasers this year. I know it was reported we made three bids on deadline day, but why not sooner? Was it so then if they fell through they could say ah well we tried and still not spend? Still think playoffs is a possibility, but we didn't help ourselves by not strengthening

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:21 am

JamieCCFC90 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why we never bought in Oct/Nov/January.

Then later we had Millions from the Carling Cup and we still never.

I said months ago, something does not add up and I stand by that.

I am very sceptical of the whole thing, maybe thats just me.


Totally agree with you mate. As I said, club seem to be crowd pleasers this year. I know it was reported we made three bids on deadline day, but why not sooner? Was it so then if they fell through they could say ah well we tried and still not spend? Still think playoffs is a possibility, but we didn't help ourselves by not strengthening



Leaving it to the night before ? yet we had weeks/months to sign players, I cant understand it ?
We should of been top 2, if we had strengthened.
Yes I am still believing, a couple of wins and we will be right up there again in the play offs. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:27 am

Forever Blue wrote:
jinks-rct wrote:
CCFC 24 wrote:Maybe we don't want to spend big urgentlhy this year, wait till next season, far more stable and re-invest with this cash, will probably happen, 2 year plans sounds perfect, more than we could have wished for, we'll see.


I agree with this post


We will still have the same debts around our necks. When your up there and so close, you should then go for it.
If we fail this season, season ticket sales will be well done, other incomes will be well done, then what do you do next ?

We will have to spend next Summer to convince the floaters. I agree we will off load at least 9-10 players and there are no DJ & Co wages anymore, but Malky will def need fully backing and fans vote with their feet, they will want to see ambition, not just talk

If the income is down next season and the debts higher, how will we be better off ?

Spot on

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:39 am

Forever Blue wrote:
jinks-rct wrote:
CCFC 24 wrote:Maybe we don't want to spend big urgentlhy this year, wait till next season, far more stable and re-invest with this cash, will probably happen, 2 year plans sounds perfect, more than we could have wished for, we'll see.


I agree with this post


We will still have the same debts around our necks. When your up there and so close, you should then go for it.
If we fail this season, season ticket sales will be well done, other incomes will be well done, then what do you do next ?

We will have to spend next Summer to convince the floaters. I agree we will off load at least 9-10 players and there are no DJ & Co wages anymore, but Malky will def need fully backing and fans vote with their feet, they will want to see ambition, not just talk

If the income is down next season and the debts higher, how will we be better off ?

Spot on

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:33 am

Hang on:

No point asking for signings in October/November/December/Jan etc if there's still debt, and besides Malky made subtle bids, Owen Coyle will confirm that for you.

Filip Kiss - 500k permo
Lawrence - wages and loan fee - I'd rather him here than not
Miller - 800k and wages
Turner - 750k
Mason - 250k
Gunnarsson - nominal compensation


That's approx 2.5m in transfer fees this season.

I'm not sayign we should get back down to 10th I say we appreciate our targets and we've OVER-ACHIEVED by reaching the play-offs hopefully, we re-assess and re-build in the summer to match or greater our targets.

Don't go crying end of season if we didn;t make the play-offs I'll be proud were competing .

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:50 am

CCFC 24 wrote:Hang on:

No point asking for signings in October/November/December/Jan etc if there's still debt, and besides Malky made subtle bids, Owen Coyle will confirm that for you.

Filip Kiss - 500k permo
Lawrence - wages and loan fee - I'd rather him here than not
Miller - 800k and wages
Turner - 750k
Mason - 250k
Gunnarsson - nominal compensation


That's approx 2.5m in transfer fees this season.

I'm not sayign we should get back down to 10th I say we appreciate our targets and we've OVER-ACHIEVED by reaching the play-offs hopefully, we re-assess and re-build in the summer to match or greater our targets.

Don't go crying end of season if we didn;t make the play-offs I'll be proud were competing .



I wont go crying, I will be there next season no matter what, but I guarantee you now, if we dont make the top 6 this season, thousands wont be, the other night the crowd that turned up was actually 15,608 :shock: , I just say how it is on here.
We had millions from the Carling Cup, even Malky says we cant compete with the other top clubs in this division with their players, its funny the clubs who wanted players got them, same every year.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:13 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
CCFC 24 wrote:Hang on:

No point asking for signings in October/November/December/Jan etc if there's still debt, and besides Malky made subtle bids, Owen Coyle will confirm that for you.

Filip Kiss - 500k permo
Lawrence - wages and loan fee - I'd rather him here than not
Miller - 800k and wages
Turner - 750k
Mason - 250k
Gunnarsson - nominal compensation


That's approx 2.5m in transfer fees this season.

I'm not sayign we should get back down to 10th I say we appreciate our targets and we've OVER-ACHIEVED by reaching the play-offs hopefully, we re-assess and re-build in the summer to match or greater our targets.

Don't go crying end of season if we didn;t make the play-offs I'll be proud were competing .



I wont go crying, I will be there next season no matter what, but I guarantee you now, if we dont make the top 6 this season, thousands wont be, the other night the crowd that turned up was actually 15,608 :shock: , I just say how it is on here.
We had millions from the Carling Cup, even Malky says we cant compete with the other top clubs in this division with their players, its funny the clubs who wanted players got them, same every year.



But previous owners/chairmen have shown time & time again, spending doesn't guarantee success (24 Mill to get out of the 3rd & 4th divisions?). We need to start to live within our means & it'll take time to acheive that, judging by the fact that we are still reliant on VT etc stumping up over £1M every month. Paying top wages for Prima Donna players just drives a wedge between us and the club; as seen in recent seasons.
If we build a team of players like Mason, Ralls, Harris & Gunnarson & reduce our debt, I for one will be happy.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:16 pm

Back of the Net wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
CCFC 24 wrote:Hang on:

No point asking for signings in October/November/December/Jan etc if there's still debt, and besides Malky made subtle bids, Owen Coyle will confirm that for you.

Filip Kiss - 500k permo
Lawrence - wages and loan fee - I'd rather him here than not
Miller - 800k and wages
Turner - 750k
Mason - 250k
Gunnarsson - nominal compensation


That's approx 2.5m in transfer fees this season.

I'm not sayign we should get back down to 10th I say we appreciate our targets and we've OVER-ACHIEVED by reaching the play-offs hopefully, we re-assess and re-build in the summer to match or greater our targets.

Don't go crying end of season if we didn;t make the play-offs I'll be proud were competing .



I wont go crying, I will be there next season no matter what, but I guarantee you now, if we dont make the top 6 this season, thousands wont be, the other night the crowd that turned up was actually 15,608 :shock: , I just say how it is on here.
We had millions from the Carling Cup, even Malky says we cant compete with the other top clubs in this division with their players, its funny the clubs who wanted players got them, same every year.



But previous owners/chairmen have shown time & time again, spending doesn't guarantee success (24 Mill to get out of the 3rd & 4th divisions?). We need to start to live within our means & it'll take time to acheive that, judging by the fact that we are still reliant on VT etc stumping up over £1M every month. Paying top wages for Prima Donna players just drives a wedge between us and the club; as seen in recent seasons.
If we build a team of players like Mason, Ralls, Harris & Gunnarson & reduce our debt, I for one will be happy.



Yes there are two sides to this argument,But remember if fans don't think the club is showing ambition, they soon disappear, but just watch the crowds if we dont finish the season in the top 6. People vote with their feet. Many many fans have asked me, why why, did we not strengthen.

Re: " I STILL QUESTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:37 pm

Aren't they the fickle or plastic fans people complains about anyway tho?