SO WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR OUR DROP IN FORM ? Carl Curtis

By Carl Curtis

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -30556457/

One reason and one reason only took our eye off the ball and thought about the Carling Cup dont care what you say every player had this on their mind. Now its over , we have had some decent results , bar the Hull game , lets keep the Cardiff spirit alive and support Malkay and the boys . STAND UP AND SUPPORT THE BOYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are more than likely many reasons and each change has its own permitations undoubtedly, however i don't think it's coincidence that we have been poor since Craig Conway has been left out of the side. When he was playing regularly i really didn't think he was anything special but in hindsight (and I've now been saying this for over a month) he did give us width which invariably gives our more central players more time on the ball, He is direct which ultimately allows us to gain field position with his forward running and above all he works hard. Those 3 factors alone gave a good balance in our team, not to mention his delivery which isn't bad, his chipping in with the odd goal and his partnership with Taylor which was looking more promising with each match.
Jes

One reason and one reason only took our eye off the ball and thought about the Carling Cup dont care what you say every player had this on their mind. Now its over , we have had some decent results , bar the Hull game , lets keep the Cardiff spirit alive and support Malkay and the boys . STAND UP AND SUPPORT THE BOYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm afraid i have to disagree with "we've had some decent results" Fact of the matter is : Hull can not be discounted, as for the other 3 games, West Ham wanted it more and beat us 2-0, we drew 2-2 with Brighton and we scraped a win against Bristol city 2-1, I Don't think thats a decent return really but I think that's probably acceptable to us only because we didn't expect to be here at the start of the season.
As for "lets keep the Cardiff spirit alive and support Malkay and the boys"?
I couldn't agree with you more

Jes

1.No width.
2.No Pace.
3.predictable.
4.Ca'nt defend a lead.
5.Lack of striker options.

Agree with Buckleys Brewery. Effort can not win you the league alone. You need a bit of quality and the ability to catch your opposition out with different options, e.g. pace up front, width, etc. We are a bit one dimensional this season. Can't fault the effort of the players though. Just need a few new faces particularly a striker and wide players. We seem to have been saying that since the start of the season but they have not arrived.

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

1.No width.
2.No Pace.
3.predictable.
4.Ca'nt defend a lead.
5.Lack of striker options.

all of these....

Maybe we just ain't that good.

Perhaps the players are just happy to play Championship footie, If by a miracle we did manage to get promoted to the premier most of the players would not be good enough, many would have to be moved on.

The players are not stupid and many are on VERY good money...Hmmm

To give Malky and Phillip Kiss new long term contracts is madness in my opinion.

Want to get out of the championship Cardiff? then you should of got Mr Neil Warnock in!

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

1.No width.
2.No Pace.
3.predictable.
4.Ca'nt defend a lead.
5.Lack of striker options.

Yep spot on!

have to agree about conway, i didn't think he was that influential to the team, but city have not been the same since he was dropped. It's open to debate whether it's conway being dropped and burn-out as well, which is responsible for our dip in form. although the team does definately look tired and devoid of ideas at times. I think Malky needs to use his squad players now even though they might not be as good as our first 11, at least they'd have some drive and energy against the opposition.

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

Here we go again, you stalking me!

Just so that it's clear in your mind, I'm not gay so try and find a boyfriend elsewhere!

The fact that you think I'm the only one on here that thinks Hudson is a crap organiser (your words not mine), is clearly open to conjecture!

This is a message board where opinions are supposed to be aired!

I've been saying it for ages and believe that it''s no coincidence, that the best 2 runs we went on in the previous 2 seasons, was when Hudson was out injured, so my opinion is that Hudson isn't good enough and you're a dick!

1.No width.
2.No Pace.
3.predictable.
4.Ca'nt defend a lead.
5.Lack of striker options.

I agree

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

Here we go again, you stalking me!

Just so that it's clear in your mind, I'm not gay so try and find a boyfriend elsewhere!

The fact that you think I'm the only one on here that thinks Hudson is a crap organiser (your words not mine), is clearly open to conjecture!

This is a message board where opinions are supposed to be aired!

I've been saying it for ages and believe that it''s no coincidence, that the best 2 runs we went on in the previous 2 seasons, was when Hudson was out injured, so my opinion is that Hudson isn't good enough and you're a dick!

Stalking? Uh, not really

Your ripostes are pathetic and repetitive. Try again

I know it's a forum where 'all opinions are welcome' but your opinion regarding Mark Hudson is rarely supported, so why do you bother when it's clear that you're in a very small minority?

I'm a dick? Obviously you've nothing constructive to say and I'm right. Thank you

Predictable is spot on.... due to no options no pace or width.

Just hope we get lucky.

We were found out before the semi's ..

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

Here we go again, you stalking me!

Just so that it's clear in your mind, I'm not gay so try and find a boyfriend elsewhere!

The fact that you think I'm the only one on here that thinks Hudson is a crap organiser (your words not mine), is clearly open to conjecture!

This is a message board where opinions are supposed to be aired!

I've been saying it for ages and believe that it''s no coincidence, that the best 2 runs we went on in the previous 2 seasons, was when Hudson was out injured, so my opinion is that Hudson isn't good enough and you're a dick!

Stalking? Uh, not really

Your ripostes are pathetic and repetitive. Try again

I know it's a forum where 'all opinions are welcome' but your opinion regarding Mark Hudson is rarely supported, so why do you bother when it's clear that you're in a very small minority?

I'm a dick? Obviously you've nothing constructive to say and I'm right. Thank you

If you check my posts, you'll see that I've always qualified my statements with constructive reasoning!

You clearly think Hudson is the best thing since sliced bread, an opinion which you are entitled to!

I obviously disagree and it's my opinion, which is just as valid as your opinion!

His first touch against Hull last Wednesday was shocking and nearly as bad as Jon Parkin's!

IMO he's too slow, too quiet (unless he makes a mistake, where he proceeds to berate everybody else around him) and whilst we don't have too many classy centre backs in reserve, I'd still replace him with Darcy, Kienan or Quinn if it came down to it, who isn't even a centre back!

Now go and wave to your boyfriend, as you've no chance with me!

I believe....We lost 11/12 players pre season, and although replaced by
MM with as many players, it was more to b able to field a team, rather than mould a squad. I agree with every1 who says, we should av ad the backing in jan. Reality is, we avent! We r middle heavy, and I think that's simply down to malky tryin to make up the numbers at start of season. I really don't think we can judge this season. We r all calling for width, but malky don't fancy Conway ( prob gone pre season), I'd av to agree (runs up his own arse)! Disagree with every1 slagging off miller, he's scored goals at Celtic, Rangers ETC With 2 up front. He works his ballocks off, and he has no service wot so ever. Our midfield r like crabs! Started to hear people slagging off cowie. Cowies been played out of position. He's done a job this yr. last yr, he ad 3rd most assists amongst the midfield in the whole of the Champ. He's never goin to achieve that, on the wing, on his wrong foot!!! Making him look a bad player! Like I said though...this yr is just a glimpse of wots to come. A team thrown together=Carling Cup Final, +contesting promotion!!

The buck stops with Malky.

Couldn't agree more moonmouse ...Warnock would have been my choice to

By Carl Curtis

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -30556457/

Carl, once again an honest report in the newspaper.

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

Here we go again, you stalking me!

Just so that it's clear in your mind, I'm not gay so try and find a boyfriend elsewhere!

The fact that you think I'm the only one on here that thinks Hudson is a crap organiser (your words not mine), is clearly open to conjecture!

This is a message board where opinions are supposed to be aired!

I've been saying it for ages and believe that it''s no coincidence, that the best 2 runs we went on in the previous 2 seasons, was when Hudson was out injured, so my opinion is that Hudson isn't good enough and you're a dick!

Stalking? Uh, not really

Your ripostes are pathetic and repetitive. Try again

I know it's a forum where 'all opinions are welcome' but your opinion regarding Mark Hudson is rarely supported, so why do you bother when it's clear that you're in a very small minority?

I'm a dick? Obviously you've nothing constructive to say and I'm right. Thank you

If you check my posts, you'll see that I've always qualified my statements with constructive reasoning!

You clearly think Hudson is the best thing since sliced bread, an opinion which you are entitled to!

I obviously disagree and it's my opinion, which is just as valid as your opinion!

His first touch against Hull last Wednesday was shocking and nearly as bad as Jon Parkin's!

IMO he's too slow, too quiet (unless he makes a mistake, where he proceeds to berate everybody else around him) and whilst we don't have too many classy centre backs in reserve, I'd still replace him with Darcy, Kienan or Quinn if it came down to it, who isn't even a centre back!

Now go and wave to your boyfriend, as you've no chance with me!

I wasn't on about your statements when I say you've nothing constructive to say. How have I warranted being called a 'dick'?

And no, I don't think he's the best thing since sliced bread. And you're right in saying that your opinion is just as valid as mine. And everyone is of course entitled to an opinion. So my opinion is that your opinion on MH is laughable, as just about no one concurs with it.

His first touch obviously won't be amazing seeing as he's a Championship centre-half. He's not Messi is he?

Everyone knows he lacks pace. But he makes up for that (for the majority of the time) with his reading of the game. Remember Sami Hyypia? No I know that MH isn't as good as him, but Hyypia was possibly even slower than Hudson or even Gyepes but his reading of the game allowed him to establish himself as one of Europe's most accomplished defenders.

If he was too quiet then he wouldn't be captain, would he? Dave Jones and Neil Warnock are two pretty experienced managers who clearly knew what they were doing when they gave him the captaincy at City and Crystal Palace respectively. I wouldn't disagree with them

If you think that Quinn is a better CB than him, then you're clearly out of your mind! I can sort of understand people wanting to replace him with Blake or Keinan (not Kienan), but Quinn? Sorry, but no

'Boyfriend'? 'No chance with me'? This type of vocabulary is beginning to scare me a bit

to be fair , i think hudson is having probably his best season in a city shirt..

my only concern for the lad is that yesterday he thought he was hugo sanchez!!


i was worried that he wasnt going to be able to get back up!! he should leave them to fifa 12

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Hudson played like Hugo Sanchez up front yesterday, but like Dirty Sanchez at the back!

Hudson played like Hugo Sanchez up front yesterday, but like Dirty Sanchez at the back!

Wtf did he do wrong yesterday?

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

Here we go again, you stalking me!

Just so that it's clear in your mind, I'm not gay so try and find a boyfriend elsewhere!

The fact that you think I'm the only one on here that thinks Hudson is a crap organiser (your words not mine), is clearly open to conjecture!

This is a message board where opinions are supposed to be aired!

I've been saying it for ages and believe that it''s no coincidence, that the best 2 runs we went on in the previous 2 seasons, was when Hudson was out injured, so my opinion is that Hudson isn't good enough and you're a dick!

Stalking? Uh, not really

Your ripostes are pathetic and repetitive. Try again

I know it's a forum where 'all opinions are welcome' but your opinion regarding Mark Hudson is rarely supported, so why do you bother when it's clear that you're in a very small minority?

I'm a dick? Obviously you've nothing constructive to say and I'm right. Thank you

If you check my posts, you'll see that I've always qualified my statements with constructive reasoning!

You clearly think Hudson is the best thing since sliced bread, an opinion which you are entitled to!

I obviously disagree and it's my opinion, which is just as valid as your opinion!

His first touch against Hull last Wednesday was shocking and nearly as bad as Jon Parkin's!

IMO he's too slow, too quiet (unless he makes a mistake, where he proceeds to berate everybody else around him) and whilst we don't have too many classy centre backs in reserve, I'd still replace him with Darcy, Kienan or Quinn if it came down to it, who isn't even a centre back!

Now go and wave to your boyfriend, as you've no chance with me!

I wasn't on about your statements when I say you've nothing constructive to say. How have I warranted being called a 'dick'?

And no, I don't think he's the best thing since sliced bread. And you're right in saying that your opinion is just as valid as mine. And everyone is of course entitled to an opinion. So my opinion is that your opinion on MH is laughable, as just about no one concurs with it.

His first touch obviously won't be amazing seeing as he's a Championship centre-half. He's not Messi is he?

Everyone knows he lacks pace. But he makes up for that (for the majority of the time) with his reading of the game. Remember Sami Hyypia? No I know that MH isn't as good as him, but Hyypia was possibly even slower than Hudson or even Gyepes but his reading of the game allowed him to establish himself as one of Europe's most accomplished defenders.

If he was too quiet then he wouldn't be captain, would he? Dave Jones and Neil Warnock are two pretty experienced managers who clearly knew what they were doing when they gave him the captaincy at City and Crystal Palace respectively. I wouldn't disagree with them

If you think that Quinn is a better CB than him, then you're clearly out of your mind! I can sort of understand people wanting to replace him with Blake or Keinan (not Kienan), but Quinn? Sorry, but no

'Boyfriend'? 'No chance with me'? This type of vocabulary is beginning to scare me a bit

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

Here we go again, you stalking me!

Just so that it's clear in your mind, I'm not gay so try and find a boyfriend elsewhere!

The fact that you think I'm the only one on here that thinks Hudson is a crap organiser (your words not mine), is clearly open to conjecture!

This is a message board where opinions are supposed to be aired!

I've been saying it for ages and believe that it''s no coincidence, that the best 2 runs we went on in the previous 2 seasons, was when Hudson was out injured, so my opinion is that Hudson isn't good enough and you're a dick!

Stalking? Uh, not really

Your ripostes are pathetic and repetitive. Try again

I know it's a forum where 'all opinions are welcome' but your opinion regarding Mark Hudson is rarely supported, so why do you bother when it's clear that you're in a very small minority?

I'm a dick? Obviously you've nothing constructive to say and I'm right. Thank you

If you check my posts, you'll see that I've always qualified my statements with constructive reasoning!

You clearly think Hudson is the best thing since sliced bread, an opinion which you are entitled to!

I obviously disagree and it's my opinion, which is just as valid as your opinion!

His first touch against Hull last Wednesday was shocking and nearly as bad as Jon Parkin's!

IMO he's too slow, too quiet (unless he makes a mistake, where he proceeds to berate everybody else around him) and whilst we don't have too many classy centre backs in reserve, I'd still replace him with Darcy, Kienan or Quinn if it came down to it, who isn't even a centre back!

Now go and wave to your boyfriend, as you've no chance with me!

I wasn't on about your statements when I say you've nothing constructive to say.

Well what the feck were you on about then?

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

Here we go again, you stalking me!

Just so that it's clear in your mind, I'm not gay so try and find a boyfriend elsewhere!

The fact that you think I'm the only one on here that thinks Hudson is a crap organiser (your words not mine), is clearly open to conjecture!

This is a message board where opinions are supposed to be aired!

I've been saying it for ages and believe that it''s no coincidence, that the best 2 runs we went on in the previous 2 seasons, was when Hudson was out injured, so my opinion is that Hudson isn't good enough and you're a dick!

Stalking? Uh, not really

Your ripostes are pathetic and repetitive. Try again

I know it's a forum where 'all opinions are welcome' but your opinion regarding Mark Hudson is rarely supported, so why do you bother when it's clear that you're in a very small minority?

I'm a dick? Obviously you've nothing constructive to say and I'm right. Thank you

If you check my posts, you'll see that I've always qualified my statements with constructive reasoning!

You clearly think Hudson is the best thing since sliced bread, an opinion which you are entitled to!

I obviously disagree and it's my opinion, which is just as valid as your opinion!

His first touch against Hull last Wednesday was shocking and nearly as bad as Jon Parkin's!

IMO he's too slow, too quiet (unless he makes a mistake, where he proceeds to berate everybody else around him) and whilst we don't have too many classy centre backs in reserve, I'd still replace him with Darcy, Kienan or Quinn if it came down to it, who isn't even a centre back!

Now go and wave to your boyfriend, as you've no chance with me!

How have I warranted being called a 'dick'?

It was my way of being polite!

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

Here we go again, you stalking me!

Just so that it's clear in your mind, I'm not gay so try and find a boyfriend elsewhere!

The fact that you think I'm the only one on here that thinks Hudson is a crap organiser (your words not mine), is clearly open to conjecture!

This is a message board where opinions are supposed to be aired!

I've been saying it for ages and believe that it''s no coincidence, that the best 2 runs we went on in the previous 2 seasons, was when Hudson was out injured, so my opinion is that Hudson isn't good enough and you're a dick!

Stalking? Uh, not really

Your ripostes are pathetic and repetitive. Try again

I know it's a forum where 'all opinions are welcome' but your opinion regarding Mark Hudson is rarely supported, so why do you bother when it's clear that you're in a very small minority?

I'm a dick? Obviously you've nothing constructive to say and I'm right. Thank you

If you check my posts, you'll see that I've always qualified my statements with constructive reasoning!

You clearly think Hudson is the best thing since sliced bread, an opinion which you are entitled to!

I obviously disagree and it's my opinion, which is just as valid as your opinion!

His first touch against Hull last Wednesday was shocking and nearly as bad as Jon Parkin's!

IMO he's too slow, too quiet (unless he makes a mistake, where he proceeds to berate everybody else around him) and whilst we don't have too many classy centre backs in reserve, I'd still replace him with Darcy, Kienan or Quinn if it came down to it, who isn't even a centre back!

Now go and wave to your boyfriend, as you've no chance with me!

I wasn't on about your statements when I say you've nothing constructive to say. How have I warranted being called a 'dick'?

And no, I don't think he's the best thing since sliced bread. And you're right in saying that your opinion is just as valid as mine. And everyone is of course entitled to an opinion. So my opinion is that your opinion on MH is laughable, as just about no one concurs with it.

His first touch obviously won't be amazing seeing as he's a Championship centre-half. He's not Messi is he?

Everyone knows he lacks pace. But he makes up for that (for the majority of the time) with his reading of the game. Remember Sami Hyypia? No I know that MH isn't as good as him, but Hyypia was possibly even slower than Hudson or even Gyepes but his reading of the game allowed him to establish himself as one of Europe's most accomplished defenders.

You say that my opinion is as valid as yours, then call my opinion laughable, because it doesn't concur with yours, which is a bit like throwing your toys out of the pram!

I didn't know Messi played centre half btw, but Sami Hyypia was like a gazelle compared to Hudson and his first touch was class!

You keep using the excuse that he's only a Championship centre half, and that he's not expected to be quick and now you're telling me that his first touch hasn't got to be so good either! Name me a slower centre back in the Championship, now that Gyepes has departed for League 1?

IMO, if we've got any serious aspirations of playing Premiership football, then we've got to fill the team with Premiership standard footballers, firstly in order to get there and secondly to try and stay there! Hudson is not Premiership standard IMO!

His first touch against Hull last Tuesday was shocking and IMO, his touch needs to be at least as good as a Premiership player in most instances, as players tend to close you down quicker at this level, which doesn't allow you so much time on the ball!

I'm not saying that he's been like it all season, but I've never seen any Championship centre half with such a poor first touch as Hudson had against Hull, I don't agree that he reads the game as well as some people say and he's a piss poor arganiser in my book!

Now, I know that some people have changed their opinion of him in the last few months and I know that you've ridiculed this poll before, but just to show that it's not only my opinion of him, here's the result of last October's poll again:-

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -29637658/

As our defence has leaked umpteen goals in the past 3 months, I think this poll is relevant and if you're willing to see the result of a new poll on this message board, then perhaps you could initiate one!

Lack of organisation and a vocal presence in defence, starting with the goalkeeper who has become too intent to stay on his goal line again and ending with the captain, who as well as having been targetted in recent weeks due to his lack of pace, has never had the ability to organise the defence IMO!

Here we go again......

I think you're the only one on here who thinks that Hudson is a crap organiser

Here we go again, you stalking me!

Just so that it's clear in your mind, I'm not gay so try and find a boyfriend elsewhere!

The fact that you think I'm the only one on here that thinks Hudson is a crap organiser (your words not mine), is clearly open to conjecture!

This is a message board where opinions are supposed to be aired!

I've been saying it for ages and believe that it''s no coincidence, that the best 2 runs we went on in the previous 2 seasons, was when Hudson was out injured, so my opinion is that Hudson isn't good enough and you're a dick!

Stalking? Uh, not really

Your ripostes are pathetic and repetitive. Try again

I know it's a forum where 'all opinions are welcome' but your opinion regarding Mark Hudson is rarely supported, so why do you bother when it's clear that you're in a very small minority?

I'm a dick? Obviously you've nothing constructive to say and I'm right. Thank you

If you check my posts, you'll see that I've always qualified my statements with constructive reasoning!

You clearly think Hudson is the best thing since sliced bread, an opinion which you are entitled to!

I obviously disagree and it's my opinion, which is just as valid as your opinion!

His first touch against Hull last Wednesday was shocking and nearly as bad as Jon Parkin's!

IMO he's too slow, too quiet (unless he makes a mistake, where he proceeds to berate everybody else around him) and whilst we don't have too many classy centre backs in reserve, I'd still replace him with Darcy, Kienan or Quinn if it came down to it, who isn't even a centre back!

Now go and wave to your boyfriend, as you've no chance with me!

I wasn't on about your statements when I say you've nothing constructive to say. How have I warranted being called a 'dick'?

And no, I don't think he's the best thing since sliced bread. And you're right in saying that your opinion is just as valid as mine. And everyone is of course entitled to an opinion. So my opinion is that your opinion on MH is laughable, as just about no one concurs with it.

His first touch obviously won't be amazing seeing as he's a Championship centre-half. He's not Messi is he?

Everyone knows he lacks pace. But he makes up for that (for the majority of the time) with his reading of the game. Remember Sami Hyypia? No I know that MH isn't as good as him, but Hyypia was possibly even slower than Hudson or even Gyepes but his reading of the game allowed him to establish himself as one of Europe's most accomplished defenders.

If he was too quiet then he wouldn't be captain, would he? Dave Jones and Neil Warnock are two pretty experienced managers who clearly knew what they were doing when they gave him the captaincy at City and Crystal Palace respectively. I wouldn't disagree with them

If you think that Quinn is a better CB than him, then you're clearly out of your mind! I can sort of understand people wanting to replace him with Blake or Keinan (not Kienan), but Quinn? Sorry, but no

'Boyfriend'? 'No chance with me'? This type of vocabulary is beginning to scare me a bit

You wouldn't disagree with Warnock ,DJ or anybody else for that matter, as you've clearly made up your mind about him, much the same as I have and although I think he's improved this season, he's still not good enough IMO!

I named Quinn as a possible alternative, as I clearly believe that Hudson isn't good enough! As Blake filled in so well 2 seasons ago alongside Gerrard, as McNaughton filled in so well last season alongside Keinan and Quinn filled in during his 30 or so minute cameo against Leicester, I can't see that we've got anything to lose tbh, as our season has floundered quite badly of late!

Lastly, if you're worried about any language I've used in any of my posts, then I'm extremely sorry, but I DGAF!

'Well what the feck were you on about then? '

To be honest I worded that wrong. Obviously your arguments have constructive reasoning, but what I was trying to say was that there's no need for leaving a bit of an aftertaste in the way of derogatory comments such as 'dick' etc.

'It was my way of being polite!'

Weird way of being polite then

'You say that my opinion is as valid as yours, then call my opinion laughable, because it doesn't concur with yours, which is a bit like throwing your toys out of the pram! '

Not really. I shouldn't have made a direct comparison. Technically, it's my entitled opinion to regard your opinion as ludicrous, if you see what I mean. Feel free to do the same rather than just simply disagree

'I didn't know Messi played centre half btw, but Sami Hyypia was like a gazelle compared to Hudson and his first touch was class!'

His first touch might not be great, but it's not the worst either! And I wasn't talking about Hyypia's first touch

'You keep using the excuse that he's only a Championship centre half, and that he's not expected to be quick and now you're telling me that his first touch hasn't got to be so good either! Name me a slower centre back in the Championship, now that Gyepes has departed for League 1?'

It's different though as he plays at the back and doesn't get the ball as much as someone like Whittingham or anyone else in midfield for that matter. Normally when he gets the ball he's got plenty of space so his first touch isn't massively important, because if his first touch isn't great then he''d have enough time and space to recover. If he was playing in midfield and his first touch was poor, then he'd lose the ball pretty quickly, probably. And I've no idea if there's a slower CB in the league. Go and find out if you wish.

'IMO, if we've got any serious aspirations of playing Premiership football, then we've got to fill the team with Premiership standard footballers, firstly in order to get there and secondly to try and stay there! Hudson is not Premiership standard IMO!'

Who knows if he is Premier League standard or not? We'll only know if we get there. If we do then it'd only be fair to give him the chance to prove whether he is or he isn't. Judging by how well he (and Turner) handled Suarez and Carroll (who is still a good player despite his lack of goals), then it's up for debate. I realise that was a one-off game though, but it was still pretty impressive and promising nevertheless.

'His first touch against Hull last Tuesday was shocking and IMO, his touch needs to be at least as good as a Premiership player in most instances, as players tend to close you down quicker at this level, which doesn't allow you so much time on the ball!'

Uh, I think it's the other way around, isn't it? I've heard countless pundits etc. say that you get more time in the Premier League - that the Championship is a more frantic league. And again, I come back to my point regarding the fact he isn't on the ball as much as others in the side, i.e. the ones further forward in midfield and attack, so his first touch, whether poor or not, isn't likely to be punished or capitalised upon.

'I'm not saying that he's been like it all season, but I've never seen any Championship centre half with such a poor first touch as Hudson had against Hull, I don't agree that he reads the game as well as some people say and he's a piss poor arganiser in my book!'

That's one poor first touch out of however many in a game, then. May I ask what came of it? Then again, I wasn't at the game so I have not seen it. How many interceptions/blocks does he make then? Quite a few I'd imagine! And have you seen our defence when he is out? If we go back to the end of last season when McNaughton and Keinan partnered each other (I thought they were good together but only as an emergency option, mind), it was quite obvious - to my mind anyway - that the defence lacked leadership; someone who is there to organise things, and adeptly as well. It told in the end as we capitulated against Middlesbrough.

'Now, I know that some people have changed their opinion of him in the last few months and I know that you've ridiculed this poll before, but just to show that it's not only my opinion of him, here's the result of last October's poll again:-

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -29637658/

As our defence has leaked umpteen goals in the past 3 months, I think this poll is relevant and if you're willing to see the result of a new poll on this message board, then perhaps you could initiate one! '

That poll was created (by Media Wales don't forget) in October for goodness' sake. It was created after we lost away to P'Boro, clearly a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. That was after two games with Turner and Hudson as a CB partnership; too little time to judge the partnership upon. In my estimation they've developed well as a partnership since. Remember that you defend - and attack - as a team. Individuals (defenders more than most, admittedly) do make mistakes, but generally with each goal more than one player will be culpable. I don't see the need to create a poll myself, as I think that the defence, as a unit, is fine.

'You wouldn't disagree with Warnock ,DJ or anybody else for that matter, as you've clearly made up your mind about him, much the same as I have and although I think he's improved this season, he's still not good enough IMO!'

What I was trying to say was that I wouldn't disagree with them simply because I've made up my mind about him, it's that I wouldn't disagree with them as I know that having actually worked with the guy (picking him regularly in addition to making him captain of teams which reached the play-offs - City in 09/10 and 10/11 on top of Palace in 07/08) as well as possessing quite a bit of experience and knowledge as managers, you should regard their opinions as better credentialed than anyone on here, including the two of us.

'I named Quinn as a possible alternative, as I clearly believe that Hudson isn't good enough! As Blake filled in so well 2 seasons ago alongside Gerrard, as McNaughton filled in so well last season alongside Keinan and Quinn filled in during his 30 or so minute cameo against Leicester, I can't see that we've got anything to lose tbh, as our season has floundered quite badly of late!'

Blake and Gerrard were OK two seasons ago; just OK. However, a few people for some reason grossly exaggerated the quality of it to the point that they genuinely believed it was unparalleled. McNaughton/Keinan was another makeshift partnership which was decent but again, nothing sensational. Quinn has played centre-half for half an hour; not really enough to judge him in that position. And it doesn't really look like he'll be getting a game anytime soon, eh? And our season has floundered fairly acutely recently, yes, but it's not just Hudson or the defence who are at fault. It's the whole team but even more so, MM!

'DGAF'? One way or another, I don't think that'll catch on very well