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Your billionaire owners ...

Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:29 pm

Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:31 pm

SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


There paying are debts which some fans think thats all that matters yet its just more higer intrest debt owned to them even if we dont have a squad for the prem it will carry on year after year unless we get good players in to get us up for them to get a return of some kind

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:35 pm

SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:



none of your business you jack prick

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:40 pm

SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:

And the importance of your comment is........???????? :?

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:56 pm

Billionaire owners, bargain basement squad ... :|

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Thu May 03, 2012 10:40 pm

One must begin to question the lack of investment in your squad from apparently committed owners ...

Call me a cynic but I think they've been trying to do a Briatore @ QPR all along.

Look at Leicester's owners in contrast they gave it a right go (Not their fault Sven was a minge of a manager to be fair)

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Thu May 03, 2012 10:43 pm

Milfy_Sigurdsson wrote:One must begin to question the lack of investment in your squad from apparently committed owners ...

Call me a cynic but I think they've been trying to do a Briatore @ QPR all along.

Look at Leicester's owners in contrast they gave it a right go (Not their fault Sven was a minge of a manager to be fair)

I think they're decent and they essentially saved us so we shouldn't be complaining too much. But we need to spend in the summer. I'm actually looking forward to the summer if Malky gets the funds he wants. Should be busy :ayatollah:

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Thu May 03, 2012 10:49 pm

SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


Because they are paying back someone elses debt (historical) something your club has never done!!

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Thu May 03, 2012 10:52 pm

cityone wrote:
SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


Because they are paying back someone elses debt (historical) something your club has never done!!

Ooh, feisty :lol:

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Thu May 03, 2012 10:56 pm

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
cityone wrote:
SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


Because they are paying back someone elses debt (historical) something your club has never done!!

Ooh, feisty :lol:


no one wanted to come here in january :lol: we could of had a couple of players

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Thu May 03, 2012 10:56 pm

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
cityone wrote:
SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


Because they are paying back someone elses debt (historical) something your club has never done!!

Ooh, feisty :lol:


no one wanted to come here in january :lol: we could of had a couple of players

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Thu May 03, 2012 11:02 pm

SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


They need to do this the right way.

First of all they're not technically our owners yet

To become so, they need to pay off the main creditors (Langston and PMG).

This cannot be done in a hurry, as if it was they'd pay over the odds.

I suspect that this summer that side will be sorted out and your assumption in the question (that they are our owners) will then be correct.

Its at that stage that they should be judged on what they spend, and I don't think they should throw crazy money at it (your fine team are an example that that is not always needed to obtain both success and good football, with which I am sure you will agree).

I think they have conducted themselves as astute and sensible business men, and whilst I was always a fan of Sam's, their approach is more professional I believe.

I know your post was a provocative one, but I trust this deals with the issues you raise.

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Thu May 03, 2012 11:03 pm

SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


don't spend a penny?! they're paying off the debt caused by other owners!... can't see your club doing that, take the easy way out and go into administration so they didn't have to pay back what they owed, thats what i call tight!

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Thu May 03, 2012 11:19 pm

CalShepCCFC wrote:
SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


don't spend a penny?! they're paying off the debt caused by other owners!... can't see your club doing that, take the easy way out and go into administration so they didn't have to pay back what they owed, thats what i call tight!


Our debt was £1.5m. Yours is what, around £60-70m?

Aren't you trying to get out of paying Hammam the money he is owed? Try again fella :lol:

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 3:24 am

NJ73 wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


don't spend a penny?! they're paying off the debt caused by other owners!... can't see your club doing that, take the easy way out and go into administration so they didn't have to pay back what they owed, thats what i call tight!


Our debt was £1.5m. Yours is what, around £60-70m?

Aren't you trying to get out of paying Hammam the money he is owed? Try again fella :lol:


I think what you fail to realise here is :

1. The money you defaulted on was never repaid and individuals and businesses lost out on it and some may have gone to the wall because of it.

2. We have more debt, but as with any individuals debt, if the creditors are content to allow that to remain and not demand it back (as with most of our personal mortgages), then there is no damage done to the creditor.

3. The position with Sam I believe is that what he is actually owed is currently being negotiated. If he feels what's being offered is not appropriate, he can sue (and if he had a good case, he would doubtless win it). If he fails to do so, it means he accepts that the amount the club are offering him is an appropriate amount.

I therefore see no proportionality between the position with our club now and your club when it actually went into administration, where people clearly were not paid back what was clearly owed to them.

This really is quite simple, I'm afraid, if you'll just look at it in any kind of fair minded way.

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 7:14 am

Wrong..mel nurse a x swan and massive fan took 800k of the debt and paid it back leaving les then half..and by the way do u think behind all that you are being told there is some scams going on?millions in debt didnt pay other clubs what you owed and yet still paying massive wages to players,,fowler chopra and so on.
Dont belive anything u read in the media as what you are told and what realy goes on are miles aoart.
You could have been in the top 2 but ni players come in when u needed them in jan,thes owners will f**k u over as u were in touching distance and if they give mm the go ahead to bring in and freshen up u would have been up,all good saying there are funds there but do u realy think if he had 5 mill he would have said no??

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 9:50 am

NJ73 wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


don't spend a penny?! they're paying off the debt caused by other owners!... can't see your club doing that, take the easy way out and go into administration so they didn't have to pay back what they owed, thats what i call tight!


Our debt was £1.5m. Yours is what, around £60-70m?

Aren't you trying to get out of paying Hammam the money he is owed? Try again fella :lol:


You owe 3.4m to my council for a kick off! try again fella :lol:

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 9:51 am

They don't own it for a start.

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 9:52 am

SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Billionaire owners, bargain basement squad ... :|


It's called planning mate, the key objective from these businessmen, is to push on when it's ready and not before. ;)
Our time will come and you will be running back into your rat infested shacks :lol:

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 9:55 am

PtB wrote:They don't own it for a start.


They have no assets whatsoever. They own nothing, apart from Joe allen and vorm if they wanted to sell them. Mel nurse has no money, Martin Morgan has said no more from me, who can they fall back on? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :lol:

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 10:02 am

Neath Bluebird wrote:
PtB wrote:They don't own it for a start.


They have no assets whatsoever. They own nothing, apart from Joe allen and vorm if they wanted to sell them. Mel nurse has no money, Martin Morgan has said no more from me, who can they fall back on? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :lol:


Ashley Williams. Danny Graham. Scott Sinclair. Nathan Dyer. Neil Taylor. Angel Rangel. Wayne Routledge. Etc, etc, Just to name a few.

Funny that you mention young Joe Allen as our of our 'assets' ... When he's probably one of our worst players at times!
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Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 10:03 am

Neath Bluebird wrote:
SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Billionaire owners, bargain basement squad ... :|


It's called planning mate, the key objective from these businessmen, is to push on when it's ready and not before. ;)
Our time will come and you will be running back into your rat infested shacks :lol:


When do you consider a good time to 'push on' then, not when you're in the top 2 of the Championship with a few months of the season remaining is it?

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 10:03 am

Neath Bluebird wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


don't spend a penny?! they're paying off the debt caused by other owners!... can't see your club doing that, take the easy way out and go into administration so they didn't have to pay back what they owed, thats what i call tight!


Our debt was £1.5m. Yours is what, around £60-70m?

Aren't you trying to get out of paying Hammam the money he is owed? Try again fella :lol:


You owe 3.4m to my council for a kick off! try again fella :lol:


You keep saying this but it is not and has never been shown in the clubs audited accounts. How do you explain that?

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 10:22 am

Will your's spalsh out for Caulker and Siggy ? Think we all know that answer.

The only good thing about next season is when you have your second seasonitus with Tait & Monk at the back and more no goals from Malkys ex striker and you lot won't be on here so often.

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 11:18 am

llan bluebird wrote:Will your's spalsh out for Caulker and Siggy ? Think we all know that answer.

The only good thing about next season is when you have your second seasonitus with Tait & Monk at the back and more no goals from Malkys ex striker and you lot won't be on here so often.


Errrm yes we will try hence having a bid for Gylfi rejected in the last 24 hours and us going back with an improved offer ...

Caulker signing was NEVER on the cards, however his return on loan is a slight possibility.

What makes you think Monk and "Tait" will be our centre half pairing for next season you're in dreamland kiddo. Brendan's been given the green light to strength the squad.

Now enough about us, let's talk about you ... What are YOUR OWNERS going to do for YOU? Those super rich billionaires that could by extension pay off your debts in one lump sum could they not (How much is your debt, 70 million?) but seem very reluctant to do so. :?

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 11:25 am

Neath Bluebird wrote:
PtB wrote:They don't own it for a start.


They have no assets whatsoever. They own nothing, apart from Joe allen and vorm if they wanted to sell them. Mel nurse has no money, Martin Morgan has said no more from me, who can they fall back on? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :lol:


Vorm £8 million
Allen £6 million
Sinclair £7 million
Taylor £5 million
Williams £7 million
Graham £5 million
Then lots of million pound players in Lita, Routledge, Rangel etc

Thats over £40 million worth of players. A new state of the art training ground and youth academy being built and £50 million cash every year with the security of another £38 million should they be relegated.

Dont think they need to own their stadium in fairness.

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 12:20 pm

NJ73 wrote:
Neath Bluebird wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
SCFC_#1TeamInWales wrote:Why don't they spend a penny on you? They're as tight fisted as Ken Bates. :?

Keep the Malaysian flags flying boys. :lol:


don't spend a penny?! they're paying off the debt caused by other owners!... can't see your club doing that, take the easy way out and go into administration so they didn't have to pay back what they owed, thats what i call tight!


Our debt was £1.5m. Yours is what, around £60-70m?

Aren't you trying to get out of paying Hammam the money he is owed? Try again fella :lol:


You owe 3.4m to my council for a kick off! try again fella :lol:


You keep saying this but it is not and has never been shown in the clubs audited accounts. How do you explain that?

I notoce you haven't given a view about the details in my post :lol:

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 12:21 pm

we are doing fine at our club thanks, i would just worry about your own little club down west, never sign sigs or caulker, you have Tate on a 3 year contract which you should be very worried about.

Re: Your billionaire owners ...

Fri May 04, 2012 12:25 pm

swansealad69 wrote:Wrong..mel nurse a x swan and massive fan took 800k of the debt and paid it back leaving les then half..and by the way do u think behind all that you are being told there is some scams going on?millions in debt didnt pay other clubs what you owed and yet still paying massive wages to players,,fowler chopra and so on.
Dont belive anything u read in the media as what you are told and what realy goes on are miles aoart.
You could have been in the top 2 but ni players come in when u needed them in jan,thes owners will f**k u over as u were in touching distance and if they give mm the go ahead to bring in and freshen up u would have been up,all good saying there are funds there but do u realy think if he had 5 mill he would have said no??


So, on that logic, you only brought down half the businesses you otherwise would have done in the Swansea area, because of the genorosity of one individual.

Oh that's allright then :lol: