Once and for all EARNIE

Before I start, I love the little fella to bits. A City boy that has sentimental connections to the club and maybe its one of our problems as fans as we all have them memories of Earnie in his prime and expect him to do the same now, in his heart he'd be banging them in but in reality his body just aint up to it anymore.

Im disappointed as much as anyone else the way that Millers goals have dried up and had the notion that he is a striker and at the end of the day he's paid to score goals, then I sit back and look at the "Miller v Earnie" scenario with a wider picture. We play with a lone striker which entails a massive responsability, Ive watched Miller with dispair but his workrate is phenomenal. He'll get back to defend if he has to, he'll muck in at midfield, his reading of the game is spot on, he is chasing down, looking for spaces all over the field and must be a defenders nightmare to mark. I go back to his work rate, its constant 100% full on commitment, Earnie will give you commitment I have no doubt in that but he wouldnt last 40minutes of Millers work rate. Malky has stated that he picks his team from training, the commitment and workrate put into training will tick the right boxes for MM. I dont believe this notion of Earnie aint Malkys signing and therefore not in his plans, he gave him a run out at the start of the season with Miller. It simply didnt work and Earnie simply dont have the legs for it, maybe if he started putting in a full shift in training he'd get a look in but when your overshadowed by youth its hard I suppose and thats where Miller gets my vote because he'll up his workrate to match any of those youngsters. And to be perfectly honest, does Earnie really care if he's picked or not, he's picking up a handsome cheque monthly. You have to respect him for accepting MM decisions and not coming out and blasting him and so Miller will always get my vote simply because of the shift we see him putting in and like any other striker who goes through that drought, all it'll take is one and the rest will follow.

At the end of the day Earnie cant match Miller for his workrate and if Robert had shaped up in training then maybe he'd have got his chance on the bench........ In Malky we trust.

Good post mate

Well said I know millers not scoring at the moment but there's other parts to his play that are outstanding I truly believe miller will score the all important goal for us MAYBE in the playoff final then he will be king Kenny again

Well said, the work Miller does for the system we play is brilliant

Miller is not in the team for goals.

WHAT?!?!?!

If goals were his main aim he would be asked to play as an out and out striker. If goals were his main aim he wouldn't drop so deep.

Miller has played a role in setting up other players.

Earnie would look lost and useless in Miller's role.

Good post, but at the end of the day in my opinion its goals what count and win you games.



Miller plays well every game, gets in the right positions/battles/gives his all/quality when going past players/passing quality, but his finishing of late or shall I say months, is very poor.

Good post, but at the end of the day in my opinion its goals what count and win you games.



Miller plays well every game, gets in the right positions/battles/gives his all/quality when going past players/passing quality, but his finishing of late or shall I say months, is very poor.

It is poor Annis and no getting away with that fact but could Earnie act as the lone striker role with the workrate and responsability that comes with it, todays football is a far cry from Earnies day and he'd be the first one to admit he dont have the legs for it. He obviously aint proving his worth in training in regards to what is needed to play the role that Miller does.

Good post, but at the end of the day in my opinion its goals what count and win you games.

Miller plays well every game, gets in the right positions/battles/gives his all/quality when going past players/passing quality, but his finishing of late or shall I say months, is very poor.

We've scored lots of goals this season and led in games far more than any other team!

It's our defending after going in front that's costing us IMO and not the lack of Kenny Miller goals!

If we'd have kept the lead in all the games we'd scored first in, we'd nigh on be promoted by now!

Good post, but at the end of the day in my opinion its goals what count and win you games.

Miller plays well every game, gets in the right positions/battles/gives his all/quality when going past players/passing quality, but his finishing of late or shall I say months, is very poor.

We've scored lots of goals this season and led in games far more than any other team!

It's our defending after going in front that's costing us IMO and not the lack of Kenny Miller goals!

If we'd have kept the lead in all the games we'd scored first in, we'd nigh on be promoted by now!

Ok, fair point, so your happy with Millers scoring rate ? happy with Miller in front of goal at the moment ?

Good post, but at the end of the day in my opinion its goals what count and win you games.

Miller plays well every game, gets in the right positions/battles/gives his all/quality when going past players/passing quality, but his finishing of late or shall I say months, is very poor.

We've scored lots of goals this season and led in games far more than any other team!

It's our defending after going in front that's costing us IMO and not the lack of Kenny Miller goals!

If we'd have kept the lead in all the games we'd scored first in, we'd nigh on be promoted by now!

Ok, fair point, so your happy with Millers scoring rate ? happy with Miller in front of goal at the moment ?

No certainly not happy with his goal rate Annis but his workrate is second to none and the rest of the team need to step up the mark to feed him and to be scoring themselves, we should be banging in goals from all over the place with the likes of Whits, Cowie and Gunner. The ownest dont just lay with Miller because he is a striker, he lays off more chances than is produced to him.

Miller is not in the team for goals.

WHAT?!?!?!

If goals were his main aim he would be asked to play as an out and out striker. If goals were his main aim he wouldn't drop so deep.

Miller has played a role in setting up other players.

Earnie would look lost and useless in Miller's role.

what a load of bollocks
he has hardly any assists
yes he works hard but hes in the team to score goals

Good post, but at the end of the day in my opinion its goals what count and win you games.

Miller plays well every game, gets in the right positions/battles/gives his all/quality when going past players/passing quality, but his finishing of late or shall I say months, is very poor.

We've scored lots of goals this season and led in games far more than any other team!

It's our defending after going in front that's costing us IMO and not the lack of Kenny Miller goals!

If we'd have kept the lead in all the games we'd scored first in, we'd nigh on be promoted by now!

Ok, fair point, so your happy with Millers scoring rate ? happy with Miller in front of goal at the moment ?

I'm happy that Miller is leading our line and putting the shifts in that he is!

I'd certainly like to see him score more, but how many people were slating Chopra when he went on a run of not scoring in 13 or so games, when he was bringing so much more to the team with his workrate?

Chopra spent most of his time up front in a 4-4-2 formation, so he should be expected to score more goals than Miller, who IMO brings more to the team than Chopra ever did!

Would you swop miller for Ricky Lambert. The guy is awesome

Would you swop miller for Ricky Lambert. The guy is awesome

Id swap him for Ricky Wright Wright Wright

The brutal fact of the matter is that Earnshaw has never remotely had the ability to play as a target man in a 451 system. Furthermore Kenny holds the ball up far better than Earnshaw can wherever it comes to him. Again Mason's performances this season have been really good and I'm sure no-one is saying he should be replaced. With only 5 subs available and 2 smallish players in the starting line up Rudy or 'Harry' Vukic must be on the bench to offer an alternative up front.

StT.

thats the point most people on here are asking for earnie to be on the bench ,,not to replace miller,, but to change the game if needed ,,as rudy is injured at the moment why is malky still not putting earnie on the bench ,,is he now sayiong vucic is ahead of earnie in the striker pecking order,, imo malkey has a problem with earnie and he should be big enough and profesional enough to sort it out for the good of the team

thats the point most people on here are asking for earnie to be on the bench ,,not to replace miller,, but to change the game if needed ,,as rudy is injured at the moment why is malky still not putting earnie on the bench ,,is he now sayiong vucic is ahead of earnie in the striker pecking order,, imo malkey has a problem with earnie and he should be big enough and profesional enough to sort it out for the good of the team

Maybe its Earnie that has the problem, maybe he's not impressing in training. Of course Vucic is going to be ahead of Earnie on the bench, Vucic is Malkys signing and if Earnie had replaced him on the bench fans would have something else to moan about in regards to why have a loanee thats not in the squad. If Earnie was impressing with his workrate in training then Im sure he'd be on the bench, he aint obviously.

I wondered how long it would be before City fans would question Malkys ability 3/4s of the season and we are off already..... What was the saying now.........? In Malky we trust......?

Earnie cannot hold a ball up as well as Miller.

If Earnie plays up front the ball ends up returning to our own half on more occasions. You end up with a defence that cannot get a breather between attacks and a midfield that has to work twice as hard.

You then have the scenario whereby the midfield is so busy it is not getting the time to create chances for the striker. We then end up in a vicious circle whereby Earnie gets less chances because the rest of the team are too busy.

At least with Miller up front there is more chance of him holding the ball up, bringing the midfield into the attack and Miller himself benefitting from the chances the midfield can make for him.

He just needs to finish a few but without him the chances would not be there in the first place.

Earnie doesn't fit us.

The young Earnie (2000 ~ 2004) would n't fit this team. He needs a workhorse upfront with him. Leo, Alan Lee and Malky doesn't seem to want to go down that route, even if Rudy is fit.

Earnie is a wasteman that needs to be moved out in the summer, was crap early on, why do people think he'll be good now? Lost his pace and sharpness and can only score tap ins these days.

Before I start, I love the little fella to bits. A City boy that has sentimental connections to the club and maybe its one of our problems as fans as we all have them memories of Earnie in his prime and expect him to do the same now, in his heart he'd be banging them in but in reality his body just aint up to it anymore.

Im disappointed as much as anyone else the way that Millers goals have dried up and had the notion that he is a striker and at the end of the day he's paid to score goals, then I sit back and look at the "Miller v Earnie" scenario with a wider picture. We play with a lone striker which entails a massive responsability, Ive watched Miller with dispair but his workrate is phenomenal. He'll get back to defend if he has to, he'll muck in at midfield, his reading of the game is spot on, he is chasing down, looking for spaces all over the field and must be a defenders nightmare to mark. I go back to his work rate, its constant 100% full on commitment, Earnie will give you commitment I have no doubt in that but he wouldnt last 40minutes of Millers work rate. Malky has stated that he picks his team from training, the commitment and workrate put into training will tick the right boxes for MM. I dont believe this notion of Earnie aint Malkys signing and therefore not in his plans, he gave him a run out at the start of the season with Miller. It simply didnt work and Earnie simply dont have the legs for it, maybe if he started putting in a full shift in training he'd get a look in but when your overshadowed by youth its hard I suppose and thats where Miller gets my vote because he'll up his workrate to match any of those youngsters. And to be perfectly honest, does Earnie really care if he's picked or not, he's picking up a handsome cheque monthly. You have to respect him for accepting MM decisions and not coming out and blasting him and so Miller will always get my vote simply because of the shift we see him putting in and like any other striker who goes through that drought, all it'll take is one and the rest will follow.

At the end of the day Earnie cant match Miller for his workrate and if Robert had shaped up in training then maybe he'd have got his chance on the bench........ In Malky we trust.

Sums it up pretty well in the "who should start up front" debate but it still is no answer to why he cannot put him on the bench. If Miller got injured during play, then Mason would play the lone striker role but he's wasted there as he's best in the channels.

The simple answer is for Mackay to get in a loan striker before it is too late as I am convinced with the amount of football to be played before now and the end of the season Miller will get a strain and then Mackay would be in difficulties.

Before I start, I love the little fella to bits. A City boy that has sentimental connections to the club and maybe its one of our problems as fans as we all have them memories of Earnie in his prime and expect him to do the same now, in his heart he'd be banging them in but in reality his body just aint up to it anymore.

Im disappointed as much as anyone else the way that Millers goals have dried up and had the notion that he is a striker and at the end of the day he's paid to score goals, then I sit back and look at the "Miller v Earnie" scenario with a wider picture. We play with a lone striker which entails a massive responsability, Ive watched Miller with dispair but his workrate is phenomenal. He'll get back to defend if he has to, he'll muck in at midfield, his reading of the game is spot on, he is chasing down, looking for spaces all over the field and must be a defenders nightmare to mark. I go back to his work rate, its constant 100% full on commitment, Earnie will give you commitment I have no doubt in that but he wouldnt last 40minutes of Millers work rate. Malky has stated that he picks his team from training, the commitment and workrate put into training will tick the right boxes for MM. I dont believe this notion of Earnie aint Malkys signing and therefore not in his plans, he gave him a run out at the start of the season with Miller. It simply didnt work and Earnie simply dont have the legs for it, maybe if he started putting in a full shift in training he'd get a look in but when your overshadowed by youth its hard I suppose and thats where Miller gets my vote because he'll up his workrate to match any of those youngsters. And to be perfectly honest, does Earnie really care if he's picked or not, he's picking up a handsome cheque monthly. You have to respect him for accepting MM decisions and not coming out and blasting him and so Miller will always get my vote simply because of the shift we see him putting in and like any other striker who goes through that drought, all it'll take is one and the rest will follow.

At the end of the day Earnie cant match Miller for his workrate and if Robert had shaped up in training then maybe he'd have got his chance on the bench........ In Malky we trust.

Sums it up pretty well in the "who should start up front" debate but it still is no answer to why he cannot put him on the bench................. Because he has Vudic

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Sums it up pretty well in the "who should start up front" debate but it still is no answer to why he cannot put him on the bench................. Because he has Vudic

Vukic is not a replacement for Miller

City possess 3 out and out strikers; one is Miller, another is Earnshaw and the other is Gestade.

City need another one NQAT.

Earnshaw isnt as good as Miller in the formation we play. SIMPLES

Agreed with first post, Earnie is fourth choice for a reason, because of his work rate and because he has lost his pace, great bloke but not good enough especially as a loan striker....