" IT WAS EMBARRASSING AND WHAT ARE WE PAYING "

Just looking at our bench today v Westham, I felt it was embarrassing to see such a weak bench in the Championship. Yes I am going to say the same old thing, if we had invested back in Oct/Nov/Jan we would not be sinking like the titanic. One win in the last 6 league games v Peterborough home. You can give 100% week in week out but you need that bit of class and strength in depth. The top 2 positions are gone in my opinion and its our own fault. I will be at Brighton and Bristol C away and will continue to cheer them on, but we have thrown it all away in my opinion.

Rudy, sorry not championship for me, a waste of space in the Championship,battles,gives everything, lovely person though, but not good enough.

And what are we paying Earnie £13,000 a week for ?

Just looking at our bench today v Westham, I felt it was embarrassing to see such a weak bench in the Championship. Yes I am going to say the same old thing, if we had invested back in Oct/Nov/Jan we would not be sinking like the titanic. One win in the last 6 league games v Peterborough home. I you can give 100% week in week out but you need that bit of class and strength in depth. The top 2 positions are gone in my opinion and its our own fault. I will be at Brighton and Bristol C away and will continue to cheer them on, but we have thrown it all away in my opinion.

And what are we paying Earnie £13,000 a week for ?

Windows come and gone annis and thats that you know as well as i know come may we will get MM saying we needed players to stay in the hunt and why we fell out excuse.It will kind of sound daft comming from him after saying we need new blood for 7-8months
As for earnie ask SB and that moron gethin jenkins why they signed him to sit in the stands before MM got here
Not even a striker on the bench thats a joke

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Not quite sure how you can call Rudy a waste of space, you cant question his commitment or passion. He's still only a kid at then end of the day and with all of this experience he can only get better.

Beaten by a better team who have spent a lot of money.
Thought the bench was ok today, should have had earnie on it though and they should have been used.

Top two are gone but will be an interesting battle for the play/offs.

Not quite sure how you can call Rudy a waste of space, you cant question his commitment or passion. He's still only a kid at then end of the day and with all of this experience he can only get better.

hes 24 this year how can he be a kid

AHHHHH
Why the Rudy hate I don't get, it., because he's French?

Miller's been far worse on many occasions but because it's a 50 cap international he gets none of it compared to Rudy.

He played 30 minutes today, hardly a chance, and when he came off, we didn't play as well!

Got the assist in the Carling Cup Final for Tuner's goal, bagged us the win at Upton Park, when comes on with the last 10 minutes that'd hardly a fair chance to prove himself, everyone expecting him to change the game. and when he starts(he was injrured clearly today) he'll win us a game with a goal and assist, cracking performance vs Peterborough.

He's only going to get better and better.

Beaten by a better team who have spent a lot of money.
Thought the bench was ok today, should have had earnie on it though and they should have been used.

Top two are gone but will be an interesting battle for the play/offs.

Luke how is a bench ok without a striker on it ?

It was painful watching it

Rudy ..think your right
Strength n depth should of been sorted as u say in the months gone by
We've had the opportunities, yes a few signings we missed out on but we weren't at the races when it came it January like a lot of other clubs

Have we missed out on autos just yet? I think so
Although its still possible I guess mathematically speaking

Play offs at best,

And as for earnie, I'm one of the few that have recently said " give him a go", he should of had his chance by now

See you on Wednesday matey

KEEP THE FAITH

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Not quite sure how you can call Rudy a waste of space, you cant question his commitment or passion. He's still only a kid at then end of the day and with all of this experience he can only get better.

hes 24 this year how can he be a kid

Alright maybe not a kid but he's still young, needs more game time

Beaten by a better team who have spent a lot of money.
Thought the bench was ok today, should have had earnie on it though and they should have been used.

Top two are gone but will be an interesting battle for the play/offs.

Luke how is a bench ok without a striker on it ?

Thats down to MM though, nothing to do with not strengthening. He has earnie and choses not to include him.

Just looking at our bench today v Westham, I felt it was embarrassing to see such a weak bench in the Championship. Yes I am going to say the same old thing, if we had invested back in Oct/Nov/Jan we would not be sinking like the titanic. One win in the last 6 league games v Peterborough home. I you can give 100% week in week out but you need that bit of class and strength in depth. The top 2 positions are gone in my opinion and its our own fault. I will be at Brighton and Bristol C away and will continue to cheer them on, but we have thrown it all away in my opinion.

And what are we paying Earnie £13,000 a week for ?

Windows come and gone annis and thats that you know as well as i know come may we will get MM saying we needed players to stay in the hunt and why we fell out excuse.It will kind of sound daft comming from him after saying we need new blood for 7-8months
As for earnie ask SB and that moron gethin jenkins why they signed him to sit in the stands before MM got here
Not even a striker on the bench thats a joke

Malky stated 3 times publicly we need strengthening if we are to go up.
Sadly we have def missed the top 2,We will struggle as I have said since Oct, to make 6th at best come May

Just looking at our bench today v Westham, I felt it was embarrassing to see such a weak bench in the Championship. Yes I am going to say the same old thing, if we had invested back in Oct/Nov/Jan we would not be sinking like the titanic. One win in the last 6 league games v Peterborough home. You can give 100% week in week out but you need that bit of class and strength in depth. The top 2 positions are gone in my opinion and its our own fault. I will be at Brighton and Bristol C away and will continue to cheer them on, but we have thrown it all away in my opinion.

Rudy, sorry not championship for me, a waste of space in the Championship,battles,gives everything, lovely person though, but not good enough.

And what are we paying Earnie £13,000 a week for ?

Maybe you should write a book about it...

...Buy us a striker once its published

Just looking at our bench today v Westham, I felt it was embarrassing to see such a weak bench in the Championship. Yes I am going to say the same old thing, if we had invested back in Oct/Nov/Jan we would not be sinking like the titanic. One win in the last 6 league games v Peterborough home. You can give 100% week in week out but you need that bit of class and strength in depth. The top 2 positions are gone in my opinion and its our own fault. I will be at Brighton and Bristol C away and will continue to cheer them on, but we have thrown it all away in my opinion.

Rudy, sorry not championship for me, a waste of space in the Championship,battles,gives everything, lovely person though, but not good enough.

And what are we paying Earnie £13,000 a week for ?

Maybe you should write a book about it...

...Buy us a striker once its published

Clever opinion/debate, go and snipe else where.

Beaten by a better team who have spent a lot of money.
Thought the bench was ok today, should have had earnie on it though and they should have been used.

Top two are gone but will be an interesting battle for the play/offs.

Luke how is a bench ok without a striker on it ?

Thats down to MM though, nothing to do with not strengthening. He has earnie and choses not to include him.

And your opinion on that decision Luke, honestly ?

It was painful watching it

Rudy ..think your right
Strength n depth should of been sorted as u say in the months gone by
We've had the opportunities, yes a few signings we missed out on but we weren't at the races when it came it January like a lot of other clubs

Have we missed out on autos just yet? I think so
Although its still possible I guess mathematically speaking

Play offs at best,

And as for earnie, I'm one of the few that have recently said " give him a go", he should of had his chance by now

See you on Wednesday matey

KEEP THE FAITH

See you at Brighton Jules.

Beaten by a better team who have spent a lot of money.
Thought the bench was ok today, should have had earnie on it though and they should have been used.

Top two are gone but will be an interesting battle for the play/offs.

Luke how is a bench ok without a striker on it ?

Thats down to MM though, nothing to do with not strengthening. He has earnie and choses not to include him.

And your opinion on that decision Luke, honestly ?

Just don't understand it, makes no sense at all to me.
Don't really rate earnie but to not have a striker on the bench is suicide.

As always Annis , straight and true . MM is gonna need our backing now more than ever , I think we'll find out exactly what managerial & personal qualities he possesses between now and season's end . There's been lot of talk about trying to get players in , either permanently or on loan , and a fully fit Liam Lawrence could be a plus , but the fact still remains , the few players brought in since the initial rebuilding phase , are not enhancing the squad . We need to see the players promised " after Premier clubs finalise their squads " . Harris , Vuckic & co, may have potential but success promised 2/3 years down the line needs to be counter-balanced by performances today , and if we dont bring in more quality players right away , our season could descend into freefall . Many on here have bemoaned the lack of strength in depth for months . Actions speak louder than words ! Keep the faith

I think Earnie was injured today? Starting 3 up front (Miller, Rudy, Mason) we didn't have any other strikers to put on the bench. After Earnie is back from his injury we need to give him a go. Miller's not exactly in form at the moment so why not take a gamble and bring Earnshaw on for the last half hour or so?

As always Annis , straight and true . MM is gonna need our backing now more than ever , I think we'll find out exactly what managerial & personal qualities he possesses between now and season's end . There's been lot of talk about trying to get players in , either permanently or on loan , and a fully fit Liam Lawrence could be a plus , but the fact still remains , the few players brought in since the initial rebuilding phase , are not enhancing the squad . We need to see the players promised " after Premier clubs finalise their squads " . Harris , Vuckic & co, may have potential but success promised 2/3 years down the line needs to be counter-balanced by performances today , and if we dont bring in more quality players right away , our season could descend into freefall . Many on here have bemoaned the lack of strength in depth for months . Actions speak louder than words ! Keep the faith

Excellent post Coco and fans might say they are patient, but this summer they will demand more and come September will expect results next season, big test for Malky then .

I think Earnie was injured today? Starting 3 up front (Miller, Rudy, Mason) we didn't have any other strikers to put on the bench. After Earnie is back from his injury we need to give him a go. Miller's not exactly in form at the moment so why not take a gamble and bring Earnshaw on for the last half hour or so?

Earnie has been 99% not injured all season so far.

We can criticise this time next year, sadly in the championship.

It is clear where the gaps are, but were the solutions available at christmas ?

Rudy will be a good squad player, but it now looks like he is not going to carry the load for a season.

What sort of striker do we need to compliment Kenny ? What system does MM want to play ? 4-5-1 isn't riveting.

Joe Mason is flourishing, where should we play him, what do we need to do to allow him to get into the game more ?

Done a great job with limited resources uptil January but why on earth didn't he splash the cash which was supposedly available to him in last window? The team is looking very tired now! I understand he's fussy and he's waiting fir right type of players but fook me surely a couple of signings werent impossible? Apart from 1/4 mill on Harris from Wycombe ! For what? To sit on bench? Another point is ok if he didn't sign anyone then why not rest a few? Cowie, mcnaughton,miller all looking tired plenty of options available throughout squad to rotate it and get these players a break and return fresh virtually like new signings! Very dissapointed with how things are going! We were in a fantastic position and should have taken advantage of it!!!

Malky has no plan b. How many times have we come back from 1 nil down?

Miller needs some time on the bench, and Mason is wasted on the wing. He should start up front, with Lawrence and Conway on wings, and then a central midfield three of Gunnarson, Whitts, and one of Cowie or Kiss.

Some of the decision making from our players and manager today was bewildering.

Marshall does not communicate enough with the back 4 - something that Heaton has become adept at doing.

All over the pitch we were 2nd best. All the simple basics we did properly earlier in the season were nowhere to be seen.

When we did have the ball near the box, we looked like a Jones team again - kept passing and passing, waiting for a hole to magically open up, allowing us to score. Alternatively, when we did something with the ball, we crossed it high for the mighty f*cking GIANT Kenny mMiller to put his head to it....

Todays performance was the anthesis of last weeks performance.

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Jonathan Walker I agree with a lot of what you said. Gestede is not up to championship standard,far from it. The are a few more weak links in the team; mcnaughton is one of them,I think a new right back will be signed in the summer.
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I'd like us to go back to the 4-5-1 system and look to bring mason on and not start him,this system got us into and kept us in the playoff spots for a long time,I don't see what switching it and starting with mason,miller + gestede is achieving
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I'm not sure I would agree our bench was embarrassing Annis it was what it was given our squad but I do agree not having a forward on there at home is difficult to understand.

Thing for me about today is that we were beaten today by a stronger team, by a very organised team and by ourselves with some pretty poor defending. I think we need to put this game in a box and forget about it as for me it was almost as bad as Palace at home last season.

No real width from either team and considering both teams aspire to promotion I thought it was pretty low quality fare on offer. Chris Foy didn't help thought he and his assistants were poor for both sides really and I think you can find him in the club shop telling everyone who wants to listen that he did get the ball.

We cannot hope to compete with West Ham when it comes to money as their PL parachute payments are bigger than our playing budget. They are going to have a stronger bench nothing we can do about it.

No doubt we are in a dip formwise now and we have a big test coming up at Brighton but for me the game at the Wurzels is an absolute must win game. They can't win a corner at the moment and if we don't win there I will, and for the first time, start thinking we are going to drop right away from the playoff positions.

As for Earnie given KM hasn't scored now since Noah was a boy surely he deserves a place on the bench at least, I also think we must go out and get a centre forward who can play at this level. Way to much pressure on KM to not only score but to link up play, I think he needs help and as much as I like Rudy he is now out for a while so we MUST get a replacement.

As for today we were beaten by a better team on the day so we take it and move on.

Last season there was a a stat on the number of times we have come back from 1 nil down under DJ. Could somebody please tell me that stat this season.

I dont see how we can spend money on more players to strengthen with us still in masive debt?

And what are we paying Earnie £13,000 a week for ?

I thought the days of silly money meant to have ended with Jones ?. Well I'm not seeing much different on or off the Pitch just the same old story. Always the bridesmaid at finals and always coming up short at the end of the season .
Nothing changes and forget Earnie , what the hell are we paying Miller for? or is he on bonus for blasting balls over the bar ?. Give me Chopra and Jay any day of the week to the duff's we have up front at the mo (bar Joe)

I don't want to read or hear bullshit about I'm enjoying football more than any time or bullshit about more players in Jones after all took us to the Playoff final with a full Transfer embargo. Same old story even under Malky .


Tbh I don't think its the managers but the Club, its not to and will never ever be , but always will be a dream

Last season there was a a stat on the number of times we have come back from 1 nil down under DJ. Could somebody please tell me that stat this season.

So far this season we have won 1 game from a losing position, last season we won 2 games from a losing position.