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FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:42 am

Clearly you don't believe in the Malaysians which is your opinion.

Fact = they have heavily invested.

What I ask is, you critised them for not investing and critised them for adding to the debt.
So what should be the plan?

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:47 am

2blue2handle wrote:Clearly you don't believe in the Malaysians which is your opinion.

Fact = they have heavily invested.

What I ask is, you critised them for not investing and critised them for adding to the debt.
So what should be the plan?

Perfect timing this thread as im struglin to sleep. one reply from angry man should send the Zzzz's from my mouth

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:57 am

Answer me this question.

Name me a youngester who has come through the ranks and held a first team place since the Malaysians got involved..? The investment should have continued in the local area and NOT in a country where we wouldn't have a chance of bringing anyone over here due to UK immgration law. I want to know excatly how much this flawed Malaysian accademy is actually costing the club and how much investment in local young players have been cut..? Whatever people feel about Sam Hamman he knew that investing in the youngesters will benefit you financially in the longer term and I'm affaird we need people with football knowledge in charge to see the likes of Earnshaw, Ledley, Ramsey, Gunter and so on in the first team at a very low cost to the club.

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:08 am

Angry Man wrote:Answer me this question.

Name me a youngester who has come through the ranks and held a first team place since the Malaysians got involved..? The investment should have continued in the local area and NOT in a country where we wouldn't have a chance of bringing anyone over here due to UK immgration law. I want to know excatly how much this flawed Malaysian accademy is actually costing the club and how much investment in local young players have been cut..? Whatever people feel about Sam Hamman he knew that investing in the youngesters will benefit you financially in the longer term and I'm affaird we need people with football knowledge in charge to see the likes of Earnshaw, Ledley, Ramsey, Gunter and so on in the first team at a very low cost to the club.

Joe Ralls

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:12 am

Clash wrote:
Angry Man wrote:Answer me this question.

Name me a youngester who has come through the ranks and held a first team place since the Malaysians got involved..? The investment should have continued in the local area and NOT in a country where we wouldn't have a chance of bringing anyone over here due to UK immgration law. I want to know excatly how much this flawed Malaysian accademy is actually costing the club and how much investment in local young players have been cut..? Whatever people feel about Sam Hamman he knew that investing in the youngesters will benefit you financially in the longer term and I'm affaird we need people with football knowledge in charge to see the likes of Earnshaw, Ledley, Ramsey, Gunter and so on in the first team at a very low cost to the club.

Joe Ralls


Isn't holding down a first team place

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:12 am

Clash wrote:
Angry Man wrote:Answer me this question.

Name me a youngester who has come through the ranks and held a first team place since the Malaysians got involved..? The investment should have continued in the local area and NOT in a country where we wouldn't have a chance of bringing anyone over here due to UK immgration law. I want to know excatly how much this flawed Malaysian accademy is actually costing the club and how much investment in local young players have been cut..? Whatever people feel about Sam Hamman he knew that investing in the youngesters will benefit you financially in the longer term and I'm affaird we need people with football knowledge in charge to see the likes of Earnshaw, Ledley, Ramsey, Gunter and so on in the first team at a very low cost to the club.

Joe Ralls


Ralls did not come through our ranks, he was signed from Farnborough last season and came through Aldershots ranks. :ayatollah:

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:14 am

nobby wrote:
Clash wrote:
Angry Man wrote:Answer me this question.

Name me a youngester who has come through the ranks and held a first team place since the Malaysians got involved..? The investment should have continued in the local area and NOT in a country where we wouldn't have a chance of bringing anyone over here due to UK immgration law. I want to know excatly how much this flawed Malaysian accademy is actually costing the club and how much investment in local young players have been cut..? Whatever people feel about Sam Hamman he knew that investing in the youngesters will benefit you financially in the longer term and I'm affaird we need people with football knowledge in charge to see the likes of Earnshaw, Ledley, Ramsey, Gunter and so on in the first team at a very low cost to the club.

Joe Ralls


Ralls did not come through our ranks, he was signed from Farnborough last season and came through Aldershots ranks. :ayatollah:

I stand corrected, thanks Nobby I never new that :ayatollah:

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:15 am

Angry Man wrote:
Clash wrote:
Angry Man wrote:Answer me this question.

Name me a youngester who has come through the ranks and held a first team place since the Malaysians got involved..? The investment should have continued in the local area and NOT in a country where we wouldn't have a chance of bringing anyone over here due to UK immgration law. I want to know excatly how much this flawed Malaysian accademy is actually costing the club and how much investment in local young players have been cut..? Whatever people feel about Sam Hamman he knew that investing in the youngesters will benefit you financially in the longer term and I'm affaird we need people with football knowledge in charge to see the likes of Earnshaw, Ledley, Ramsey, Gunter and so on in the first team at a very low cost to the club.

Joe Ralls


Isn't holding down a first team place

He didnt come through our system, I was testing you :D

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:15 am

Angry Man wrote:Answer me this question.

Name me a youngester who has come through the ranks and held a first team place since the Malaysians got involved..? The investment should have continued in the local area and NOT in a country where we wouldn't have a chance of bringing anyone over here due to UK immgration law. I want to know excatly how much this flawed Malaysian accademy is actually costing the club and how much investment in local young players have been cut..? Whatever people feel about Sam Hamman he knew that investing in the youngesters will benefit you financially in the longer term and I'm affaird we need people with football knowledge in charge to see the likes of Earnshaw, Ledley, Ramsey, Gunter and so on in the first team at a very low cost to the club.


They've been here two seasons. Do you really expect us to produce an Aaron Ramsey every two seasons?

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:22 am

Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:Answer me this question.

Name me a youngester who has come through the ranks and held a first team place since the Malaysians got involved..? The investment should have continued in the local area and NOT in a country where we wouldn't have a chance of bringing anyone over here due to UK immgration law. I want to know excatly how much this flawed Malaysian accademy is actually costing the club and how much investment in local young players have been cut..? Whatever people feel about Sam Hamman he knew that investing in the youngesters will benefit you financially in the longer term and I'm affaird we need people with football knowledge in charge to see the likes of Earnshaw, Ledley, Ramsey, Gunter and so on in the first team at a very low cost to the club.


They've been here two seasons. Do you really expect us to produce an Aaron Ramsey every two seasons?


No of course not but investment into our youth has hugely benefited our club in the past. Yet this doesn't seem to be prospering anymore and my question is why is that so..? Lets be honest recently we have heard about youngesters leaving our youth set-up for other clubs so why is that..? Come on it can't be a coincidence that since this flawed Malaysian academy has been set-up our debts have rose and the noises of any youngesters really coming through are slient.

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:28 am

Hold on........

The losing battle is to answer a question with a question. :roll:
Answer mine first..

To your question the same as with any owners, they have been in charged for two years, they can't magically creat people like you make stories :shock:

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:30 am

another past chairman invested into the youth system/academy but it wasnt his money :roll:

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:32 am

2blue2handle wrote:Clearly you don't believe in the Malaysians which is your opinion.

Fact = they have heavily invested.

What I ask is, you critised them for not investing and critised them for adding to the debt.
So what should be the plan?



Any answer?

How come cooper didn't resign after finding out how corrupt everything was like you confirmed after speaking to him at Xmas?

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:37 am

sit down councillor brown

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:38 am

2blue2handle wrote:Hold on........

The losing battle is to answer a question with a question. :roll:
Answer mine first..

To your question the same as with any owners, they have been in charged for two years, they can't magically creat people like you make stories :shock:


Im not losing any battle. If you look closely at my any you will see that I am answering your question. The so-called investment isn't being put in the right places and I hope that the figures of how much the local youth investment compared to the flawed Malaysian academy investment will be an example of that.

Also the so-called investment has alot to do with Malaysian politics and a Malaysian land deal and I don't want my club to be mixed in things like that. Is that such a bad thing..?

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:43 am

The accounts to date (a year old) dont show any oversea investment.

I want to know your opinion on a simple question.
You want more players and critised them for not signing more players yet also critised them for adding to the debt.
Does that make sense?? Maybe to a retro councillor :lol:

All jokes aside, the angry man image makes you sound more bitter, why not go back to MG, at least then you had respect of people for respecting your opinion.

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:46 am

2blue2handle wrote:The accounts to date (a year old) dont show any oversea investment.

I want to know your opinion on a simple question.
You want more players and critised them for not signing more players yet also critised them for adding to the debt.
Does that make sense?? Maybe to a retro councillor :lol:

All jokes aside, the angry man image makes you sound more bitter, why not go back to MG, at least then you had respect of people for respecting your opinion.


Just realise that I was right about the debts and you and many others were wrong. Accept the fact because its people like you who are the bitter ones and thinking the Malaysians can't do any wrong is just naive. Many thought that Ridsdale learnt his lesson from Leeds but that never happened did it!!!

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:49 am

You were right about the debts? When have I ever commented on the expected debts?

In fact you have done the opposite and ridiculed them for not spending more over the lady few months :?

**awaits change of topic***

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:50 am

2blue2handle wrote:You were right about the debts? When have I ever commented on the expected debts?

In fact you have done the opposite and ridiculed them for not spending more over the lady few months :?

**awaits change of topic***


How many more times do I have to say that their investment isn't going in the right places is it then going to sink in with you..?

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:54 am

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:You were right about the debts? When have I ever commented on the expected debts?

In fact you have done the opposite and ridiculed them for not spending more over the lady few months :?

**awaits change of topic***


How many more times do I have to say that their investment isn't going in the right places is it then going to sink in with you..?


Accounts show into the club and nothing into Malaysia.

How's copper in malasyia?

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:57 am

2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:You were right about the debts? When have I ever commented on the expected debts?

In fact you have done the opposite and ridiculed them for not spending more over the lady few months :?

**awaits change of topic***


How many more times do I have to say that their investment isn't going in the right places is it then going to sink in with you..?


Accounts show into the club and nothing into Malaysia.

How's copper in malasyia?


So will the 11/12 accounts show anything for the Malaysian academy then or is that set-up under a different trading name..?

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:11 am

I would not normally agree with midfield general but I do in this instance.

The Malaysian academy is a complete waste of money; we'll never be able to sign any of them because they'd never get a work permit! Pointless!

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:12 am

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:You were right about the debts? When have I ever commented on the expected debts?

In fact you have done the opposite and ridiculed them for not spending more over the lady few months :?

**awaits change of topic***


How many more times do I have to say that their investment isn't going in the right places is it then going to sink in with you..?


Accounts show into the club and nothing into Malaysia.

How's copper in malasyia?


So will the 11/12 accounts show anything for the Malaysian academy then or is that set-up under a different trading name..?


I'll tweet mustic meg now?
Maybe she will know how come cooper is still in malasyia?? Please answer how he is after your comments earlier in the season? I'm happy to link them :lol:

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:16 am

2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:You were right about the debts? When have I ever commented on the expected debts?

In fact you have done the opposite and ridiculed them for not spending more over the lady few months :?

**awaits change of topic***


How many more times do I have to say that their investment isn't going in the right places is it then going to sink in with you..?


Accounts show into the club and nothing into Malaysia.

How's copper in malasyia?


So will the 11/12 accounts show anything for the Malaysian academy then or is that set-up under a different trading name..?


I'll tweet mustic meg now?
Maybe she will know how come cooper is still in malasyia?? Please answer how he is after your comments earlier in the season? I'm happy to link them :lol:


You'll see

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:19 am

See what?
What cooper seen and quit about? Oh wait :shock: awkward :oops:

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:22 am

2blue2handle wrote:See what?
What cooper seen and quit about? Oh wait :shock: awkward :oops:


You'll see regarding Cooper and thats all Im saying about it. Like you seen that I was right about the debts. Time will tell unfortunately and Ive said it for years. We should have took the hit of administration two years ago when we knew that we were safe from relagation.

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:30 am

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:See what?
What cooper seen and quit about? Oh wait :shock: awkward :oops:


You'll see regarding Cooper and thats all Im saying about it. Like you seen that I was right about the debts. Time will tell unfortunately and Ive said it for years. We should have took the hit of administration two years ago when we knew that we were safe from relagation.


You were right about the debts?
Didn't see that but if true why have you been pushing them for players all season :lol:

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:26 am

2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:See what?
What cooper seen and quit about? Oh wait :shock: awkward :oops:


You'll see regarding Cooper and thats all Im saying about it. Like you seen that I was right about the debts. Time will tell unfortunately and Ive said it for years. We should have took the hit of administration two years ago when we knew that we were safe from relagation.


You were right about the debts?
Didn't see that but if true why have you been pushing them for players all season :lol:


Because 2blue he does not wear two eye patches like yourself thats why hes asking for players he knows like most fans its either prem football for the owners to get a return or admin/bust at some point ,It has to end somewhere and if they do not get a SQUAD that can make the top two and stay there for the prem then where the hell does it end you tell us that one 2blue ????? because sitting here in 8th in the championship which will be 12th before long and being bailed out by the millions regular can not go on for ever as the championship does not pay 70 million to cover the RED the prem pays 90million over time just for getting there for ONE YEAR ,Its ok them paying this and that behind the scenes for a million here and there but what about the 11 players on the field who are after all the HEART of there return. This time next year when the accounts show another 20million on top of the 70million in the red this year = 90million+ then what we go again in the championship :roll:
Either they risk more to get a squad for the prem or lose even more year after year sitting in this league :ayatollah:
LIKE BIG BROTHER SAYS "YOU DECIDE"

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:39 am

2b, no point in talking to them pair of fools. Not investing in Youth? Are you insane MG? our academy is now up there with top prem teams!

You say we are blinkered, i say its you guys with your heads in sand.

Re: FAO angry man (MG)

Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:50 am

CraigCCFC wrote:2b, no point in talking to them pair of fools. Not investing in Youth? Are you insane MG? our academy is now up there with top prem teams!

You say we are blinkered, i say its you guys with your heads in sand.


You call me a fool craig but reply to nothing in my post which makes every bit of sence to most people yet you avoid any points in there craig with a normal reply to posts you can not debate on with "your a fool".I see you have not changed at all.
Have you seen the accounts craig?? and wait till you see next years the millions we ,YES US WE loaned vs the club for a malaysian silly youth dream its hidious.
We had the supposed two best malaysians they had to offer here on trail but it was not really a trial because MM didnt want them as they trained with are 1st team for two days then got stuck in the youth set up for the rest of there stay. They can not cut it or at this level. I do not see any malaysian players playing football over here EVER do you :roll:
Its people like you who avoid the truth craig yet when it smacks you in the face you might wake up at that point, mark my words because you will face them sooner or later weather you like it or not.
The youth set up over here has been improved loads thats not my gripe, as its there for all to see :ayatollah: