Cardiff City Forum



A forum for all things Cardiff City

Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:19 am

Interested to know your thoughts. When Mason was ' shepherd crooked' I thought Conway would have been a
better more attack minded option? He would have given us better outlets and doubtless would have stood up
for a penalty?

Did Hudson's inclsion also backfire on us a little by costing us a sub, when maybe Earnie for Miller with that extra sub available may have been nice?

Also Taylor look's slow to me at left back, swhich could be a worry in the run in?


Wiggy

:ayatollah:

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:26 am

I think the change was right with the way the game had changed and Liverpool putting us under a lot of pressure and we had to try and soak that up.

With Gerrard's home problems midweek and recent form, I was glad Hudson was fit and even though he had to go off, he gave us one hell of a shift. As ET moved on, both full backs looked fucked, but that was understandable. It would have been nice to throw on an extra forward late on but I really can't fault the line up or subs, I'm just so pleased that he sent out a team that didn''t only compete but took the game to them at times.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:27 am

I'm disappointed that Earnie didn't play a part,,,,i thought he would. :?

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:28 am

PtB wrote:I think the change was right with the way the game had changed and Liverpool putting us under a lot of pressure and we had to try and soak that up.

With Gerrard's home problems midweek and recent form, I was glad Hudson was fit and even though he had to go off, he gave us one hell of a shift. As ET moved on, both full backs looked fucked, but that was understandable. It would have been nice to throw on an extra forward late on but I really can't fault the line up or subs, I'm just so pleased that he sent out a team that didn''t only compete but took the game to them at times.


What PtB said. I think Malky got everything spot on. I thought Conway should have come on for Mason at extra time but Malky held off because he knew some players had cramp. Taylor and Gunnarsson did outstandingly well to carry on despite their muscles packing in. That throw from Gunnarsson that won us the corners that led to the goal was superb considering he could barely walk! :ayatollah:

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:29 am

wigstar wrote:Interested to know your thoughts. When Mason was ' shepherd crooked' I thought Conway would have been a
better more attack minded option? He would have given us better outlets and doubtless would have stood up
for a penalty?

Did Hudson's inclsion also backfire on us a little by costing us a sub, when maybe Earnie for Miller with that extra sub available may have been nice?

Also Taylor look's slow to me at left back, swhich could be a worry in the run in?


Wiggy

:ayatollah:


Have you been drinking?

Did you notice Mason's goal? Perhaps you missed Hudsons brilliant defensive display? Nice for Earnie-why because he is local?

Taylor was suffering later on and he had a great game, how you can question anyone from yesterday is beyond me.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:32 am

The only thing I wonder about is why managers dont put their more experienced penalty takers on with seconds left..?

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:35 am

boysenclosure wrote:
wigstar wrote:Interested to know your thoughts. When Mason was ' shepherd crooked' I thought Conway would have been a
better more attack minded option? He would have given us better outlets and doubtless would have stood up
for a penalty?

Did Hudson's inclsion also backfire on us a little by costing us a sub, when maybe Earnie for Miller with that extra sub available may have been nice?

Also Taylor look's slow to me at left back, swhich could be a worry in the run in?


Wiggy

:ayatollah:


Have you been drinking?

Did you notice Mason's goal? Perhaps you missed Hudsons brilliant defensive display? Nice for Earnie-why because he is local?

Taylor was suffering later on and he had a great game, how you can question anyone from yesterday is beyond me.


Dude I very rarely drink up too early! I've nothing against anyone just expressing opinions...Mason? He was one of our best players on the day...Hudson played well I'n mearly drwaing attention to his lack of fitness? Earnie because miller and Rudy could hardly move last half hour?!

A superb team performance

W :ayatollah:

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:36 am

Angry Man wrote:The only thing I wonder about is why managers dont put their more experienced penalty takers on with seconds left..?



Perhaps because we used all three sunstitutes?

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:37 am

boysenclosure wrote:
Angry Man wrote:The only thing I wonder about is why managers dont put their more experienced penalty takers on with seconds left..?



Perhaps because we used all three sunstitutes?


I'm just taking about managers on the whole. Yesterday Miller, Gustade also missed and as strikers they would have been in my top 5 penalty takers anyway.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:49 am

Angry Man wrote:
boysenclosure wrote:
Angry Man wrote:The only thing I wonder about is why managers dont put their more experienced penalty takers on with seconds left..?



Perhaps because we used all three sunstitutes?


I'm just taking about managers on the whole. Yesterday Miller, Gustade also missed and as strikers they would have been in my top 5 penalty takers anyway.


Whilst I do partly agree with you, yesterday has kind of defeated that argument with Gerrard, Adam, Miller and Gestede all missing having previously been decent penalty takers. Even Miller has bagged loads of pens before.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:10 pm

Apart from losing, I feel though only negatives were we werent closing them down and rudy didn't look match fit for the entire game. I thought we could've played better.

BUT surely that's a positive itself? We could've played better yet still took them to pens!

Please don't look at what I said as negative cause I'm still proud that we got to the final and took them to penalties. But I just feel we could've won it in normal time after watching that game.

Hudson played f*cking immense, best game I've seen him play and heaton? Superb.

I'm very proud of both the fans and the team. :ayatollah:

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:10 pm

Whatever changes Malky made during Extra Time they were, in my opinion, totally the right ones. We needed an equaliser and we got it.

Penalties are a lottery. We won two of them in earlier rounds and lost this one. That's life. Great day out. Everyone should be proud of themselves and the club has really advertised itself well on the world stage.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:11 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:Whatever changes Malky made during Extra Time they were, in my opinion, totally the right ones. We needed an equaliser and we got it.

Penalties are a lottery. We won two of them in earlier rounds and lost this one. That's life. Great day out. Everyone should be proud of themselves and the club has really advertised itself well on the world stage.

:ayatollah:

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:58 pm

I do not think the players closed them down quick enough i guess thats why they had 40 attempts on goal,miller was shit in front of goal as normal he needs 10 chances to put away one apart from running around like a mad man closing down, i would have taken him off at the end of normal time he was out on his feet,and the hoofball to there center halfs either wasnt getting us far up the park hence why we sat on are 18yard line for most pf the game. Overall we battled hard and put bodys on the line for there shots at goal /corners,I can not fault are work rate on a defensive scale yesterday as we never stopped ,dont know why mason was taken off either he was the only one running at them down the right wing area :ayatollah:

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:01 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:I do not think the players closed them down quick enough i guess thats why they had 40 attempts on goal,miller was shit in front of goal as normal he needs 10 chances to put away one apart from running around like a mad man closing down, i would have taken him off at the end of normal time he was out on his feet,and the hoofball to there center halfs either wasnt getting us far up the park hence why we sat on are 18yard line for most pf the game. Overall we battled hard and put bodys on the line for there shots at goal /corners,I can not fault are work rate on a defensive scale yesterday as we never stopped ,dont know why mason was taken off either he was the only one running at them down the right wing area :ayatollah:


I actually agree with you, I felt we could've closed them down more and rudy didn't look match fit. Apart from that I'm happy.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:02 pm

well i thoguht he,d be more attacking in the subs but to be fair super kev and huds were fucked and you cant carry defence so dont think he had many options to be honest.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:05 pm

d20 wrote:well i thoguht he,d be more attacking in the subs but to be fair super kev and huds were fucked and you cant carry defence so dont think he had many options to be honest.


Again I agree, if we had a few more players then could've had more options. Gutted vuckic was cuptied.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:10 pm

wigstar wrote:Interested to know your thoughts. When Mason was ' shepherd crooked' I thought Conway would have been a
better more attack minded option? He would have given us better outlets and doubtless would have stood up
for a penalty?

Did Hudson's inclsion also backfire on us a little by costing us a sub, when maybe Earnie for Miller with that extra sub available may have been nice?

Also Taylor look's slow to me at left back, swhich could be a worry in the run in?


Wiggy

:ayatollah:


Considering 2 subs were forced upon him I think he got it spot on. The only difference would have been that I would have taken Miller off not Mason with Gested and Mason playing one behind the other

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:44 pm

Natman Blue wrote:
wigstar wrote:Interested to know your thoughts. When Mason was ' shepherd crooked' I thought Conway would have been a
better more attack minded option? He would have given us better outlets and doubtless would have stood up
for a penalty?

Did Hudson's inclsion also backfire on us a little by costing us a sub, when maybe Earnie for Miller with that extra sub available may have been nice?

Also Taylor look's slow to me at left back, swhich could be a worry in the run in?


Wiggy

:ayatollah:


Considering 2 subs were forced upon him I think he got it spot on. The only difference would have been that I would have taken Miller off not Mason with Gested and Mason playing one behind the other


Im thinking Mason was taken off for Kiss to add more strength to the midfield so we could go the full distance and not take a pasting with how many players were slowly cramping up. It worked to be fair

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:14 pm

wigstar wrote:Interested to know your thoughts. When Mason was ' shepherd crooked' I thought Conway would have been a
better more attack minded option? He would have given us better outlets and doubtless would have stood up
for a penalty?

Did Hudson's inclsion also backfire on us a little by costing us a sub, when maybe Earnie for Miller with that extra sub available may have been nice?

Also Taylor look's slow to me at left back, swhich could be a worry in the run in?


Wiggy

:ayatollah:



Some people are never pleased :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

this deserves a special icon for you wiggy boy....and it goes something like this
.

:knob: :tool: :knob: :tool: :knob: :tool: :knob: :tool: :knob: :tool::knob: :tool: :knob: :tool: :knob: :tool: :knob: :tool:

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:35 pm

I'd have started Conway personally but I was proved wrong. MM got it spot on, played so narrow and allowed them the space out wide. To bring Conway on and change style at that point would have been crazy.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:40 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:I'm disappointed that Earnie didn't play a part,,,,i thought he would. :?



Thank god he didn't he is useless these days

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:50 pm

Bluebina wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:I'm disappointed that Earnie didn't play a part,,,,i thought he would. :?



Thank god he didn't he is useless these days


Pity, i still feel he has a part too play at City, until the end of this season anyway.

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:18 pm

the one thing. that i thought. was. i think for the entire game, heaton kicked the ball out. giving posession back to liverpool for 99.5% of the game, :roll:

Re: Malky's Possible Mistake?

Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:24 pm

ninianblue wrote:the one thing. that i thought. was. i think for the entire game, heaton kicked the ball out. giving posession back to liverpool for 99.5% of the game, :roll:

Thats because we hoofed the ball up to there center backs and it comes back as fast vs a good side like livperpool,turner didnt pass short once i dont remeber in the whole game for a reason to easy the pressure on us but it kept comming back just as quick :ayatollah: