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ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:56 pm

As Abu Qatada is to released here are his bail conditions.


are these appropriate and harsh enough or should he be immediately deported?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17019222




thoughts?

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:59 pm

Hang him

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:03 pm

Daniel_PT_blues wrote:Hang him




:lol: if only it was that easy...

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:05 pm

Make him listen to don't worry

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:06 pm

kenfighillblue wrote:Make him listen to don't worry




:lol: :lol:

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:10 pm

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:
Daniel_PT_blues wrote:Hang him




:lol: if only it was that easy...



I would deport him, makes me sick that the governement wont do it, when has he ever cared about human rights, send him to jordan

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:12 pm

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:As Abu Qatada is to released here are his bail conditions.


are these appropriate and harsh enough or should he be immediately deported?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17019222




thoughts?


I had a girlfriend who gave me more or less same conditions, didn't last long.

As for Abu, the old tried and trusted socialist method...

Bullet in the back of the head, Abu who, oh that guy, he escaped custody don't know where he is....

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:26 pm

Get rid of him and the likes of him. All those upset about this think on. You go to their country and rub their noses in it like he has. You wouldn't last 5 minutes

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:28 pm

bethanmattsgrampy wrote:Get rid of him and the likes of him. All those upset about this think on. You go to their country and rub their noses in it like he has. You wouldn't last 5 minutes



i totally agree.. he needs to be gone. even with his bail conditions he is bound to attract a following of some sort.

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:35 pm

make him sit next to dai hunt for a season :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:35 pm

the big question is
if this man is so dangerous
why has he never been charged with anything
why has he never faced trial
ignore the fact that this man might be a terrorist
what give this government the right to lock someone away for 6 years because they dont like them
why does this government feel the need to break its own laws and consider breaking the laws of the european court of human rights
but then criticises Jordan for possible breaches of human rights
This government has 2 options
1 respect human rights law find evidence to charge this man with and then lock him away
or
2 ignore its own laws, the laws of the european courts and the laws in Jordan and deport him anyway

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:47 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:the big question is
if this man is so dangerous
why has he never been charged with anything
why has he never faced trial
ignore the fact that this man might be a terrorist
what give this government the right to lock someone away for 6 years because they dont like them
why does this government feel the need to break its own laws and consider breaking the laws of the european court of human rights
but then criticises Jordan for possible breaches of human rights
This government has 2 options
1 respect human rights law find evidence to charge this man with and then lock him away
or
2 ignore its own laws, the laws of the european courts and the laws in Jordan and deport him anyway






i would say that this is relative grounds to lock someone away without actually being charged with a criminal offense.


The Middle East Media Research Institute claimed that, in 1997, Abu Qatada called upon Muslims to kill the wives and children of Egyptian police and army officers.[11]
Abu Qatada is reported by the British press to have been a preacher or advisor to al-Qaeda terrorists Zacarias Moussaoui and Richard Reid.[12][13]
When questioned in the UK in February 2001, Abu Qatada was in possession of £170,000 cash, including £805 in an envelope labelled "For the Mujahedin in Chechnya".[9]
Videos of Abu Qatada's sermons were found in the Hamburg apartment of Mohamed Atta when it was searched after the September 11, 2001 attacks, which Atta led.[9]
[edit]Legal status


In October 2002, the then Home Secretary, David Blunkett, detained Qatada indefinitely without trial under Part 4 of the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 (ATCSA), which at that time provided for such detention.[15] The Special Immigrations Appeals Commission subsequently rejected an appeal by Qatada to be released from detention without trial.[8] In 2005, Part 4 of ATCSA was replaced by the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005, which replaced detentions with control orders, and Qatada was released under such a control order. On August 12, 2005, Qatada was detained again pending deportation to Jordan.[16]

In November 2008, he was rearrested at his home after breaking his bail conditions. The Special Immigration Appeals Commission revoked his bail, stating he posed a significant risk of absconding, and returned him to prison pending his possible deportation.[6][19]

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:14 pm

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:the big question is
if this man is so dangerous
why has he never been charged with anything
why has he never faced trial
ignore the fact that this man might be a terrorist
what give this government the right to lock someone away for 6 years because they dont like them
why does this government feel the need to break its own laws and consider breaking the laws of the european court of human rights
but then criticises Jordan for possible breaches of human rights
This government has 2 options
1 respect human rights law find evidence to charge this man with and then lock him away
or
2 ignore its own laws, the laws of the european courts and the laws in Jordan and deport him anyway






i would say that this is relative grounds to lock someone away without actually being charged with a criminal offense.


The Middle East Media Research Institute claimed that, in 1997, Abu Qatada called upon Muslims to kill the wives and children of Egyptian police and army officers.[11]
Abu Qatada is reported by the British press to have been a preacher or advisor to al-Qaeda terrorists Zacarias Moussaoui and Richard Reid.[12][13]
When questioned in the UK in February 2001, Abu Qatada was in possession of £170,000 cash, including £805 in an envelope labelled "For the Mujahedin in Chechnya".[9]
Videos of Abu Qatada's sermons were found in the Hamburg apartment of Mohamed Atta when it was searched after the September 11, 2001 attacks, which Atta led.[9]
[edit]Legal status


In October 2002, the then Home Secretary, David Blunkett, detained Qatada indefinitely without trial under Part 4 of the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 (ATCSA), which at that time provided for such detention.[15] The Special Immigrations Appeals Commission subsequently rejected an appeal by Qatada to be released from detention without trial.[8] In 2005, Part 4 of ATCSA was replaced by the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005, which replaced detentions with control orders, and Qatada was released under such a control order. On August 12, 2005, Qatada was detained again pending deportation to Jordan.[16]

In November 2008, he was rearrested at his home after breaking his bail conditions. The Special Immigration Appeals Commission revoked his bail, stating he posed a significant risk of absconding, and returned him to prison pending his possible deportation.[6][19]


but you cant just lock someone away without trual if he has done these things charge him, find him guilty in court and lock him away.
This is the moral basis of our entire country innocent until proven guilty and not being imprisoned without charge.
These are the morals we dictate to other countries and we go to war over them
Yet we feel justified in breaking them ourselves
The Labour government failed with these laws they havent done anything but cost the tax payer money and incite more anger and hatred from the middle east at our country.
Its simple find a case, find evidence, charge him, find him guilty and then lock him away.
Anything other that is morally wrong and against everything we stand for.
Ignore the fact that this man maybe a terrorist
If it can happen to him it can happen to you and me
and I dont want to live in a society that locks people away because they dont believe in what the Government says

Re: ABU QATADA

Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:53 pm

spar wrote:make him sit next to dai hunt for a season :lol: :lol: :lol:

You go too far, nobody deserve's that :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:01 am

Willy the Wombat wrote:
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:As Abu Qatada is to released here are his bail conditions.


are these appropriate and harsh enough or should he be immediately deported?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17019222




thoughts?


best idea ive heard :ayatollah:
I had a girlfriend who gave me more or less same conditions, didn't last long.

As for Abu, the old tried and trusted socialist method...

Bullet in the back of the head, Abu who, oh that guy, he escaped custody don't know where he is....


best idea ive heard :ayatollah:

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:00 am

JONNY012697 wrote:the big question is
if this man is so dangerous
why has he never been charged with anything
why has he never faced trial
ignore the fact that this man might be a terrorist
what give this government the right to lock someone away for 6 years because they dont like them
why does this government feel the need to break its own laws and consider breaking the laws of the european court of human rights
but then criticises Jordan for possible breaches of human rights
This government has 2 options
1 respect human rights law find evidence to charge this man with and then lock him away
or
2 ignore its own laws, the laws of the european courts and the laws in Jordan and deport him anyway


Simple this is. Get Jordan to sign an affidavit saying they wont torture the c**t.
Once he's there, forget about him.

Wave it under the noses of lily-livered tossers like you and the Human Rights brigade

Then send the sick twisted wanker back to face trial with a clean conscience.

Italy have sent back terrorists to their home countries, so have France. Neither have
been ostracised by the International community.

Once Britain grow the bollocks to do this, the flood of murdering bastards looking to
hide in Britain will stop.

This can be the letter we get host countries to sign before deporting scum:

"We, the undersigned solemnly declare that

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (insert name)

Will not be tortured. Will not have his gonads chewed off by camels, will not
be electrocuted or coerced into signing shit by using foul tactics.
Instead, we will chuck the low-life c**t in a cell for the rest of his natural
and forget about the fucker.

Regards,

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (insert Country)


And here's one for Johnny1234goodytwoshoes:

"I, Johnny, solemnly declare that people like Abu Qatada and other fanatical
muslim terrorists deserve the chance to prove themselves as ok guys, and
should not be sent to any country where people are mean.
With no physical proof of any wrongdoing, they are innocent, and if they HAVE
been convicted of terrorist crimes, well... they've done their time. Time to let
bygones be bygones eh? Let them stay!! In fact, let them move next door to me.
Let them open a Fertilizer And Battery Shop with a Government Grant.

Love to all,

Johnny "Hands Across the Ocean" 12345

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:19 am

taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:the big question is
if this man is so dangerous
why has he never been charged with anything
why has he never faced trial
ignore the fact that this man might be a terrorist
what give this government the right to lock someone away for 6 years because they dont like them
why does this government feel the need to break its own laws and consider breaking the laws of the european court of human rights
but then criticises Jordan for possible breaches of human rights
This government has 2 options
1 respect human rights law find evidence to charge this man with and then lock him away
or
2 ignore its own laws, the laws of the european courts and the laws in Jordan and deport him anyway


Simple this is. Get Jordan to sign an affidavit saying they wont torture the c**t.
Once he's there, forget about him.

Wave it under the noses of lily-livered tossers like you and the Human Rights brigade

Then send the sick twisted wanker back to face trial with a clean conscience.

Italy have sent back terrorists to their home countries, so have France. Neither have
been ostracised by the International community.

Once Britain grow the bollocks to do this, the flood of murdering bastards looking to
hide in Britain will stop.

This can be the letter we get host countries to sign before deporting scum:

"We, the undersigned solemnly declare that

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (insert name)

Will not be tortured. Will not have his gonads chewed off by camels, will not
be electrocuted or coerced into signing shit by using foul tactics.
Instead, we will chuck the low-life c**t in a cell for the rest of his natural
and forget about the fucker.

Regards,

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (insert Country)


And here's one for Johnny1234goodytwoshoes:

"I, Johnny, solemnly declare that people like Abu Qatada and other fanatical
muslim terrorists deserve the chance to prove themselves as ok guys, and
should not be sent to any country where people are mean.
With no physical proof of any wrongdoing, they are innocent, and if they HAVE
been convicted of terrorist crimes, well... they've done their time. Time to let
bygones be bygones eh? Let them stay!! In fact, let them move next door to me.
Let them open a Fertilizer And Battery Shop with a Government Grant.

Love to all,

Johnny "Hands Across the Ocean" 12345


But there is the issue
Jordan have already said they wont torture him and if their true to their word fine no argument off me deport him and let him face trial there
but and its a big but
where has Jordan got there evidence from because the UK and the European court of human rights have decided or discovered against him has been foundrom torturing witnesses now are these 'witnesses' fellow terrorists or has Jordan just dragged people off the street and tortured them into saying what the Jordanian authorities want to hear
Im not defending terrorists and im not defending criminals
Im defending due process and human rights
And if this Government would grow the bollocks you hope they do
they should respect the laws and the morals it represents across the world.

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:56 am

If the European Court of Human Rights overule the elected government of this country and say we can't deport him to Jordan - let him go and stay in Strasbourg then.

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:09 am

This goverment has made the UK a laughing stock once again. Release terrorists ,fine ,they are more likely to target England than Wales. Deal with the consequences then idiots. :evil:
The sooner we stop listening to human right tossers the better. They are the type of people who go to third world countries and think God is protecting them, then get their heads chopped off. No God is not protecting you, your just deluded fools, get with the real world.

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:12 am

FOOTSOLDIER wrote:This goverment has made the UK a laughing stock once again. Release terrorists ,fine ,they are more likely to target England than Wales. Deal with the consequences then idiots. :evil:
The sooner we stop listening to human right tossers the better. They are the type of people who go to third world countries and think God is protecting them, then get their heads chopped off. No God is not protecting you, your just deluded fools, get with the real world.


no i think youve got them confused with bible bashing missionaries
human rights has nothing to do with God protecting anyone
its about the basic rights of any human and if you get rid of them in the name of terrorism the only people who will lose out are British citizens.

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:14 am

this guy is an illegal immigrant he should have been deported back to jordan 6yrs ago and because he has been in our prison does'nt make him a legal immigrant deport him and his family and any other imigrant that comes here and tries to bite of the hand that feeds them this bloody country is becoming a joke these people are stopping decient hard working imigrants from be accepted into our society

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:20 am

Put him on a flight to Jordan-end of.

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:27 am

Look this Guy preaches hate and has proven terroist connections that's good enough for me to say get the f**k out of this Country. I strongly believe in freedom of speech but get pissed off with all these f*cking nutters who preach death and destruction to the infidels and want to make Britain a Muslim country and introduce shaira law etc.

If you don't like it here then f**k off to one of the radical muslim countries which should welcome you with open arms to all the do gooders who think my views are wrong then i would say how would you feel if one of these nutters disappears when on curfew or bail and is then involved in a terroist attrocity that kills one of your closest family!

We can't afford to mess around and have to err on the side of caution and if that means that some radical nutter innocent or otherwise gets deported then so be it :twisted:

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:38 am

1st thing I would do? - give the fecker a shave - and make a daily shave part of his bail conditions!! :ayatollah:

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:09 pm

Should be hanged from the nearest lamp post

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:09 pm

usual dimwits on here

hes being watched like a hawk you fools , best way of dealing with him , let the authorities wait till he fecks up then lock the tw*t away for as long as possible

christ its like a feckin knuckledraggers convention on here sometimes

some of you are fecking so daft its laughable

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:31 pm

Sludge wrote:usual dimwits on here

hes being watched like a hawk you fools , best way of dealing with him , let the authorities wait till he fecks up then lock the tw*t away for as long as possible

christ its like a feckin knuckledraggers convention on here sometimes

some of you are fecking so daft its laughable


So wrong.

He is being watched like a hawk right now. But time will pass, resources will
be placed elsewhere. His Human Rights lawyers will protest (and succeed) that
he is no threat and that they were right all along.

f**k all that.

He HATES us. Despises us. He thinks we are as low as dogs just for being
non-Muslim. He wants us all dead, or converted.

He is the worst type of hypocrite. Hiding behind the flag of a Country and a
whole way of life he finds abhorrent.

Send him back.

If he dies, he dies. Inshallah (as he would say, if he wasnt such a coward)

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:50 pm

Sludge wrote:usual dimwits on here

hes being watched like a hawk you fools , best way of dealing with him , let the authorities wait till he fecks up then lock the tw*t away for as long as possible

christ its like a feckin knuckledraggers convention on here sometimes

some of you are fecking so daft its laughable


Deport the scum ,all those dirty fuckers ! Behead those that insult Islam ,all that gang. f**k them all off ,they are no good to anybody. SCUM

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:16 pm

He lives in Wembley , we might see him soon :twisted: :twisted:

Re: ABU QATADA

Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:36 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Sludge wrote:usual dimwits on here

hes being watched like a hawk you fools , best way of dealing with him , let the authorities wait till he fecks up then lock the tw*t away for as long as possible

christ its like a feckin knuckledraggers convention on here sometimes

some of you are fecking so daft its laughable


So wrong.

He is being watched like a hawk right now. But time will pass, resources will
be placed elsewhere. His Human Rights lawyers will protest (and succeed) that
he is no threat and that they were right all along.

f**k all that.

He HATES us. Despises us. He thinks we are as low as dogs just for being
non-Muslim. He wants us all dead, or converted.

He is the worst type of hypocrite. Hiding behind the flag of a Country and a
whole way of life he finds abhorrent.

Send him back.

If he dies, he dies. Inshallah (as he would say, if he wasnt such a coward)


Thinking on. "Inshallah" means God Willing!

This piece of shit is telling us its Gods Will to destroy the Kaffir. At the same time he is
saying its Gods will to hide behind the Kaffir because fellow Muslims want to have a chat
with him! So sooner that return to his "sacred muslim lands" he begs the Christians to
protect him

What a f*cking wanker.

He has human rights, of course he does. As a human, he has a right to stand up like a
f*cking man and face the music. Utter c**t!!