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Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:09 pm
First of all most People think he is nothing but a big Cry Baby, but Chelsea Fans hate him with a passion. Then Capelo resigns after sticking up for Terry. So now England has no Captain or Manager with only a few Months before a major Championship.
So now Capelo has gone Harry Redknapp has been installed as favorite for the Managers Job, so all Tottenham Fans will really hate Ferdinand with a passion because Redknapp is on to some thing big with Spurs
Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:05 pm
Or people could see it the other way and realise that racist scum Terry shouldnt even be in the squad anyway let alone be captain, lets be honest the evidence is damning, how can he deny what hes said when its on film? I wont deny i cant stand Terry anyway coz hes always seemed an arrogant prick and you should never shag ur best friends ex
Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:27 pm
don't give a rats arse to be honest
Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:40 pm
Ferdinand is a joke what he has done to Terry should of just shoke hands and forgot about it.
Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:42 pm
birchblue wrote:Ferdinand is a joke what he has done to Terry should of just shoke hands and forgot about it.
If Terry did make a deliberate racist comment, Ferdinand should just forget it.
Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:45 pm
nerd wrote:birchblue wrote:Ferdinand is a joke what he has done to Terry should of just shoke hands and forgot about it.
If Terry did make a deliberate racist comment, Ferdinand should just forget it.

Why not just heat of the moment .
Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:10 am
birchblue wrote:nerd wrote:birchblue wrote:Ferdinand is a joke what he has done to Terry should of just shoke hands and forgot about it.
If Terry did make a deliberate racist comment, Ferdinand should just forget it.

Why not just heat of the moment .
To say Ferdinand should just forget it just shows the problem that we have. Rascism cannot be tolerated in any shape or form. It merely enforces the bizarre opinions that just because someone is of a different creed or colour they are a lesser human being
If he called him anything abusive that would be fine. However, he deliberately prefaced his abuse with "blacK" which means he was being derogatory purely down to Ferdinand's colour. That makes Terry a rascist c%*t and deserves everything he gets. How can he lead an England team that is probably 50% black ? Do you really think they will look up to a small minded bigot like Terry ................. I don't think so
If Ferdinand had abused Terry by calling him a "white" t"%t then he would have been similarly guilty; but he didn't.
Remember one thing. Ferdinand did
not make any complaint. He did not hear the abuse at the time. The complaint was made by a spectator and the charge made by the police so how Ferdinand can get any blame for this beggars believe.
If Terry is found guilty then he should have the book thrown at him. If any of us abused a workmate or customer in this manner we would be suspended pending the outcome of the criminal case or even summararilly dismissed. Terry has got off lightly so far.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:57 am
Who the hell would have a problem with Anton Ferdinand over this. It appears he was racially abused by John Terry who also happens to have proven over the years that he's a c*** of the highest order. Ferdinand didn't even originally make the complaint, it came from people watching on TV who could lip read the filth that came out of Terrys mouth.
Chelsea fans are just idiots, if a Cardiff player was up for the same charge i'd be ashamed of them and certainly wouldn't boo the player who was the victim unless it was proven that he had made it up. Similarly Liverpool fans who somehow deem it appropriate to boo Patrice Evra all game despite the fact that it's been proven that he was racially abused by Suarez.
As Bellamy once said in an interview "everyone in football knows what JT's like". He's a c*** with a huge ego to match. Whoever the next England manager is needs to get this cancer out of their team
Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:11 am
birchblue wrote:Ferdinand is a joke what he has done to Terry should of just shoke hands and forgot about it.
So if somebody had verbally or physically abused you, would you want to shake hands and forget about it???
Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:20 am
What I don't understand is this.
Terry allegedly called him a black C**t.
Ferdinand is complaining because he called him black, but is not worried about being called a c**t.
Strange attitude, or is he just attention seeking? Maybe he knows he is a c**t himself.
Not sticking up for Terry as he is a bad un, but in this case he is being wrongly attacked, as I thought it was not guilty until proven guilty.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:35 am
glas wrote:What I don't understand is this.
Terry allegedly called him a black C**t.
Ferdinand is complaining because he called him black, but is not worried about being called a c**t.
Strange attitude, or is he just attention seeking? Maybe he knows he is a c**t himself.
Not sticking up for Terry as he is a bad un, but in this case he is being wrongly attacked, as I thought it was not guilty until proven guilty.
Ferdinand has not complained about anything, therefore why have a go at him
As for the point about what has been said why did Terry feel it necessary to preface it with "black" if he wasn't being rascist
If someone called me a "white c**t" that would be rascist too. It's not acceptable however you dress it up. If someone just called me a "c**t" then that would be abusive but not rascist, it's pretty simple
Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:39 am
glas wrote:What I don't understand is this.
Terry allegedly called him a black C**t.
Ferdinand is complaining because he called him black, but is not worried about being called a c**t.
Strange attitude, or is he just attention seeking? Maybe he knows he is a c**t himself.
Not sticking up for Terry as he is a bad un, but in this case he is being wrongly attacked, as I thought it was not guilty until proven guilty.
Why would he complain about being called a c***. People call each other that all of the time especially on the football field. What is offensive is that he's used the colour of Ferdinands skin to add emphasis to his insult. He is essentially placing himself above Ferdinand because he's white and Ferdinand is black.
I assume you're welsh. Would you be more offended by being called a Welsh c*** or just a c***.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:46 am
Terry said he called him a blind c**t. What the film footage shows is terry saying I called you a blind c**t not a black c**t. So what they keep replaying back is the last bit. Just playing what they want you to hear. Yes terry is a nasty shit but is he Racist ? No I don't believe for one second he is. He is being stitched up like a kipper though.
To be honest the press wants to make up stories something to sell papers and it's football is rife with racism of which I think is bull shit. Terry's black team mates are behind him , but it's all getting stupid now with Bighton fans being accused of being racist because they called Bellamy a sheep shagger. And it goes on and on, a lot of things are banter and that's all it is.
A few years ago a wrestler said I won't let no white boy beat me !! Nothing is ever said about that, mike Tyson once said that but does it make him racist ? No . Ferdinand is one big Fooking baby who ought to grow a pair . If he felt Terry had offended him then they should of sorted it out privately and then most probably ended in a handshake and Terry apologising .
f**k me it's going to court what a waste of time and money, people actually think this is a more serious crime than murder rape or assault. In fact peados get less venom towards them than terry does.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:09 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Terry said he called him a blind c**t. What the film footage shows is terry saying I called you a blind c**t not a black c**t. So what they keep replaying back is the last bit. Just playing what they want you to hear. Yes terry is a nasty shit but is he Racist ? No I don't believe for one second he is. He is being stitched up like a kipper though.
To be honest the press wants to make up stories something to sell papers and it's football is rife with racism of which I think is bull shit. Terry's black team mates are behind him , but it's all getting stupid now with Bighton fans being accused of being racist because they called Bellamy a sheep shagger. And it goes on and on, a lot of things are banter and that's all it is.
A few years ago a wrestler said I won't let no white boy beat me !! Nothing is ever said about that, mike Tyson once said that but does it make him racist ? No . Ferdinand is one big Fooking baby who ought to grow a pair . If he felt Terry had offended him then they should of sorted it out privately and then most probably ended in a handshake and Terry apologising .
f**k me it's going to court what a waste of time and money, people actually think this is a more serious crime than murder rape or assault. In fact peados get less venom towards them than terry does.
Terry is accused of making a racist comment, there is clearly enough evidence for this to be taken to trial for a public order offence so he does have a case to answer. Again I’m not sure why any of this is Anton Ferdinands fault. Anton Ferdinand did not make any complaint against Terry and has acted with dignity throughout this whole thing.
I have no opinion on Ferdinand at all other than I believe him to be a fairly mediocre footballer by premier league standards. As for Terry I think he’s an excellent player but also a scumbag with no sense of morality. It will all come out in the courts but if Terry is found guilty then would you still believe that Ferdinand is a ‘big Fooking baby’?
I’m also not sure how you think that people deem this to be more serious than murder, rape or paedophilia. If Terry had been accused of murdering someone, raping someone or of being a paedophile then I’m sure the reaction would have been far more intense than it has been for this. It’s just because he’s in the public eye that it’s being highlighted.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:10 pm
Bunk wrote:glas wrote:What I don't understand is this.
Terry allegedly called him a black C**t.
Ferdinand is complaining because he called him black, but is not worried about being called a c**t.
Strange attitude, or is he just attention seeking? Maybe he knows he is a c**t himself.
Not sticking up for Terry as he is a bad un, but in this case he is being wrongly attacked, as I thought it was not guilty until proven guilty.
Why would he complain about being called a c***. People call each other that all of the time especially on the football field. What is offensive is that he's used the colour of Ferdinands skin to add emphasis to his insult. He is essentially placing himself above Ferdinand because he's white and Ferdinand is black.
I assume you're welsh. Would you be more offended by being called a Welsh c*** or just a c***.
I was in the army for years so I was called that amongst other things, as I spent a lot of time with English regiments.
I do not see the difference between having Welsh in front of it or not. What about baldy, four eyes, ginger, lanky, short arse, etc etc? I am Welsh and proud of it, I cannot change the fact I am Welsh so I accepted it. Sticks and stones comes to mind. Unless you are over sensitive and /or looking for an excuse. Who knows? I never complained just stood my corner and actually got accepted and treated well in the end, by all nationalities. I did not going running to the bosses crying about name calling.
I am not saying it is right but some people need to look at themselves because all this PC stuff is going too far at times. People get promoted because of their skin colour, gender, drinking habits (I know it is hard to believe, but it happened) all the time not on ability so why don't the PC brigade complain about that?
Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:39 pm
glas wrote:Bunk wrote:glas wrote:What I don't understand is this.
Terry allegedly called him a black C**t.
Ferdinand is complaining because he called him black, but is not worried about being called a c**t.
Strange attitude, or is he just attention seeking? Maybe he knows he is a c**t himself.
Not sticking up for Terry as he is a bad un, but in this case he is being wrongly attacked, as I thought it was not guilty until proven guilty.
Why would he complain about being called a c***. People call each other that all of the time especially on the football field. What is offensive is that he's used the colour of Ferdinands skin to add emphasis to his insult. He is essentially placing himself above Ferdinand because he's white and Ferdinand is black.
I assume you're welsh. Would you be more offended by being called a Welsh c*** or just a c***.
I was in the army for years so I was called that amongst other things, as I spent a lot of time with English regiments.
I do not see the difference between having Welsh in front of it or not. What about baldy, four eyes, ginger, lanky, short arse, etc etc? I am Welsh and proud of it, I cannot change the fact I am Welsh so I accepted it. Sticks and stones comes to mind. Unless you are over sensitive and /or looking for an excuse. Who knows? I never complained just stood my corner and actually got accepted and treated well in the end, by all nationalities. I did not going running to the bosses crying about name calling.
I am not saying it is right but some people need to look at themselves because all this PC stuff is going too far at times. People get promoted because of their skin colour, gender, drinking habits (I know it is hard to believe, but it happened) all the time not on ability so why don't the PC brigade complain about that?
You're not grasping the fact that Ferdinand hasn't made any complaint

So how can you criticise him for "attention seeking" in your previous post
The police/courts will bring this case and decide on whether the language was appropriate, abusive or rascist but you seem to think that Ferdinand is wrong for allowing himself to be abused despite the fact he knew nothing about it until Terry apologised in the dressing room afterwards.
Terry knew he had done wrong and was backtracking in the hope that Ferdinand wouldn't take it any further. Ferdinand didn't but others did and thankfully, in my opinion, he will now have to accept the consequences of his actions. If what is being alleged is true then he'll be getting a much longer ban than the 8 games that Suarez got
Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:46 pm
I live in England myself and often get called names because of the fact I’m Welsh. It doesn’t bother me because it’s only from people doing it in jest and mostly people I know. I’ve had it occasionally on the football field and laughed it off because that tends to annoy whoever’s said it more than reacting and again it doesn’t bother me in the slightest.
However calling some a black c***, which is what Terry’s being accused of, isn’t acceptable IMO. If someone as prominent in the game as John Terry is allowed to get away with that it could cause the racist culture in football to thrive and return to the level it was in the 70s and 80s. We’ve seen 2 examples in recent week of Liverpool fans making racist comments/gestures to players on the opposing side and that’s all since the Suarez incident. The fact is this country is full of people who will be very easily influenced if they see prominent sporting personalities getting away with this.
You’re 100% correct about people being promoted because skin colour, gender etc but that’s just a fact of life. It’s not necessarily right but it’s deemed acceptable and would be impossible to avoid.
Anyway this will be my last post on this subject because it's clear that there are 2 camps here. Those percieved as being PC for believing that racist abuse isn't acceptable and those who believe Ferdinand is a 'baby' and should just ignore it. I can't even describe how wrong I think that point is but there we go I guess I'm just too PC
Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:02 pm
Bunk wrote:I live in England myself and often get called names because of the fact I’m Welsh. It doesn’t bother me because it’s only from people doing it in jest and mostly people I know. I’ve had it occasionally on the football field and laughed it off because that tends to annoy whoever’s said it more than reacting and again it doesn’t bother me in the slightest.
However calling some a black c***, which is what Terry’s being accused of, isn’t acceptable IMO. If someone as prominent in the game as John Terry is allowed to get away with that it could cause the racist culture in football to thrive and return to the level it was in the 70s and 80s. We’ve seen 2 examples in recent week of Liverpool fans making racist comments/gestures to players on the opposing side and that’s all since the Suarez incident. The fact is this country is full of people who will be very easily influenced if they see prominent sporting personalities getting away with this.
You’re 100% correct about people being promoted because skin colour, gender etc but that’s just a fact of life. It’s not necessarily right but it’s deemed acceptable and would be impossible to avoid.
Anyway this will be my last post on this subject because it's clear that there are 2 camps here. Those percieved as being PC for believing that racist abuse isn't acceptable and those who believe Ferdinand is a 'baby' and should just ignore it. I can't even describe how wrong I think that point is but there we go I guess I'm just too PC
You're right, there are 2 sides here, and we may or may not agree on things. My point is, why as Ferdinand did not complain (presumably as you say he may have accepted Terry's apology) is it anything to do with a 3rd party who overheard it. If I have a row with the wife and it upsets someone I can be arrested, even if it does not matter to her. We all argue and say things in the heat of the moment, and it is between the 2 people concerned. In a way if what you say about Ferdinand is true then I actually feel a bit sorry for him being dragged into all of this. Anyway lets get ready for Wembley (and Leicester tomorrow as well).
Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:29 pm
himynameismartyn wrote:birchblue wrote:Ferdinand is a joke what he has done to Terry should of just shoke hands and forgot about it.
So if somebody had verbally or physically abused you, would you want to shake hands and forget about it???
Would not be a problem forget and carry on.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:14 pm
How anyone can stick up for that over rated, overpaid, overhyped, arrogant, racist, cheating tosser ( and very average centre back ) John Terry, begars belief! - and even if he gets his just desserts in court, he will just face a maximum of a £1000 fine ( which is not even pocket money for him ).
Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:26 pm
Bunk wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Terry said he called him a blind c**t. What the film footage shows is terry saying I called you a blind c**t not a black c**t. So what they keep replaying back is the last bit. Just playing what they want you to hear. Yes terry is a nasty shit but is he Racist ? No I don't believe for one second he is. He is being stitched up like a kipper though.
To be honest the press wants to make up stories something to sell papers and it's football is rife with racism of which I think is bull shit. Terry's black team mates are behind him , but it's all getting stupid now with Bighton fans being accused of being racist because they called Bellamy a sheep shagger. And it goes on and on, a lot of things are banter and that's all it is.
A few years ago a wrestler said I won't let no white boy beat me !! Nothing is ever said about that, mike Tyson once said that but does it make him racist ? No . Ferdinand is one big Fooking baby who ought to grow a pair . If he felt Terry had offended him then they should of sorted it out privately and then most probably ended in a handshake and Terry apologising .
f**k me it's going to court what a waste of time and money, people actually think this is a more serious crime than murder rape or assault. In fact peados get less venom towards them than terry does.
Terry is accused of making a racist comment, there is clearly enough evidence for this to be taken to trial for a public order offence so he does have a case to answer. Again I’m not sure why any of this is Anton Ferdinands fault. Anton Ferdinand did not make any complaint against Terry and has acted with dignity throughout this whole thing.
And what if Terry is found not guilty all the people who have branded him racist should he sue them including most people on this board.
Lets see what he has done. Nukes is right he 1st called him a blind cXXt then said I called you a blind cxxt not a black cxxt the last bit being the only one the press is showing. With the Wayne Bridge thing I am not saying he was right but he was the 5th Chelsea player to have relationships with that girl. Both always have and still deny it ever happened but again people say guilty without any questions.
I dont like John Terry but as an English Cardiff fan I still support my national team and fully believe that if Terry was captain the world cup would have gone better for the team.
Anton Ferdinand did nothing wrong as you say but if he did not see or hear Terry saying what he did or didn't how does he claim it was made directly at him? How many Black players were on the pitch that day 10 I counted.
Anyway enough of this crap City 3 leicester 1 at the weekend
I have no opinion on Ferdinand at all other than I believe him to be a fairly mediocre footballer by premier league standards. As for Terry I think he’s an excellent player but also a scumbag with no sense of morality. It will all come out in the courts but if Terry is found guilty then would you still believe that Ferdinand is a ‘big Fooking baby’?
I’m also not sure how you think that people deem this to be more serious than murder, rape or paedophilia. If Terry had been accused of murdering someone, raping someone or of being a paedophile then I’m sure the reaction would have been far more intense than it has been for this. It’s just because he’s in the public eye that it’s being highlighted.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:52 pm
Someone saying that it's turning back the 70s and 80s !! Whys that then ? Because the press etc has over hyPed it all when there wasn't a problem now they have created tension and people are actually rebeling and coming out with racist stuff because if we are going to be accused then people are going to react.
And all Ferdinand has ever done is cry about this and made it public .
Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:01 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Someone saying that it's turning back the 70s and 80s !! Whys that then ? Because the press etc has over hyPed it all when there wasn't a problem now they have created tension and people are actually rebeling and coming out with racist stuff because if we are going to be accused then people are going to react.
And all Ferdinand has ever done is cry about this and made it public .
Well said this country is in a right mess.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:02 pm
Posting on my mobile, so can't quote posts, terry trying to twist what he saying sinces he's got caught out, he's racially abused players in the past but no video evidence like this one to back it up, he's a arrogant prick and karma is just a bitch, and to a few posts above who stated a wrestler said I won't let a white boy beat me it was actually bernard hopkins the boxer and he's just as bad for racisim himself
Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:17 pm
john terry is scum ... kick the racist, team mate shagging kunt out of football altogether! ... if we had shouted out what he did we`d have been banned from cardiff city stadium ... shouldnt be one rule for us and one rule for that prick!
Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:29 pm
AHERNE wrote:john terry is scum ... kick the racist, team mate shagging kunt out of football altogether! ... if we had shouted out what he did we`d have been banned from cardiff city stadium ... shouldnt be one rule for us and one rule for that prick!
Steady on treacle
Who says Terry is a Racist. He is being stitched up and that's a cert. Just because he is a knob doesn't mean he is Racist does it?. Someone said he has done it before but no video evidence. Then how the fook do you know he has done it before. Some people aint happy unless they can get there teeth into some good old Racist shit.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:32 pm
Lots of reports of terry doing it before one from 2008 he called ledley king a big lipped monkey and if you go on google will find links to other stuff, could be bullocks as you say no video evidence but funny how people in the football profession says they know what's he's like and for lack of video evidence, there was no video evidence for suarez but he got banned, don't always need video evidence to be proven guilty
Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:13 pm
citybluechris wrote:Lots of reports of terry doing it before one from 2008 he called ledley king a big lipped monkey and if you go on google will find links to other stuff, could be bullocks as you say no video evidence but funny how people in the football profession says they know what's he's like and for lack of video evidence, there was no video evidence for suarez but he got banned, don't always need video evidence to be proven guilty
No that's true if it is witnessed you don't need evidence. But also has Evra or Ferdinand never ever made a derogatory remark about white People ? And to be honest if they have so what !! It don't offend me if it was witty i would laugh if it was malicious they would get some back. But Racism does not go just one way, but my view is we take the piss out of each other, we just look for something that is different like they may be English welsh Scottish/ Could be hair Colour or the size of there nose. It could be colour of skin. But half the time you take the piss out of someone because you actually like em. But in work we are always calling each other names even bad ones you just end up calling them something worse.
But in short the press are loading the bullets with this racism shit and everyone is going around firing the Gun, just what the press want !!
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