Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:37 pm
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:57 pm
Donkyhotay wrote:Excellent summary of the planets situation at this moment in time..very worrying. recently read an article about the way the americans have attacked irans iranium centrifuges with a new Computer malware virus.they do no not want admit there security has been breached.Mossad have also killed a few nuclear weapons experts .mmmmm
Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:01 pm
jhippno wrote:Agreed, but if you are wondering whether this will happen simply check the BBC news, apparently everyone gets on swimmingly and there is never a real agenda from the Iranians
I love the quote "Israel in particular are not keen on that happening" with regards to the Iranians going nuclear. Why ever not? surely they are friends?
Unfortunately the vast majority of the media and the gullable muppets who listen to them and swallow it all as fact cannot even comprehend that a major conflict is on the cards that will effect our very existence. I think weirdly the attempted Calaphit will just stifle a world war as the major players in the world, China, Russia, USA and the EU will actually end up siding with one another as there is nothing more unifying than a shared threat
Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:16 pm
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:08 pm
Mr Moo Cow wrote:I've got a hull city stub
Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:37 pm
maccydee wrote:We may look at the 2000's like the 1920's and 30's were viewed. Reading around the subject I feel that we are on a road to a big war. Here are some of the clues I have seen recently.
- Iran attempting to get influence in South America. They have openly courted Venezuela and Argentina and I think it isn't a co-incidence that both have been a little more noisy recently about the Falklands. Might be a case of poking little brother (UK) to annoy big brother (USA). It also gives Iran strike back capability should America attack them which brings me onto my next point
- Iran are clearly attempting to develop a nuclear missile capability. Israel in particular are not keen on that happening, neither are the US. For about 18 months acts of sabotage have been taking place on the Iranian nuclear programme. Whether this is Israel through Mossad or the US through their variety of agencies or even MI6 it is happening. When Iran get to within a couple of months of nuclear power they will be attacked. Iran is not Iraq and will not be an easy enemy to vanquish let alone the problems of occupying that vast country. The tactics that were used in Iraq and have been used extensively in Afghanistan were developed by Iranians. If the UK got involved in any attack /occupation of Iran the numbers of British soldiers killed to date will unfortunately be small in number.
- China have been spending a lot on their military and although still far behind the US are developing rapidly. The weapons they are testing are all designed with American superiority in mind. (Carrier killing missiles, aircraft to counter the F22 etc). The rhetoric used regarding Taiwan is becoming more bullish by the day as is their claims on the waters surrounding their country (annoying Japan quite a bit). This is in their desperation to gain more natural resources a desperation that the US shares.
- Pakistan is openly helping the Taliban in Afghanistan in open defiance of America. This is a risky game on their part but they know that the American appetite for war has decreased massively of late and they are getting away with a lot. They are also baiting India and trying to stop Afghanistan and India forming a relationship post NATO withdrawal.
- Russia is also still very much part of the goings on. They are openly allied to Syria which might be the next flashpoint and also supply materials to Iran.
- Turkey are pushing to make themselves a power player in middle eastern affairs. They are openly critical of Israel and have threatened military intervention on the drilling of gases and oils in waters near Cyprus. This is very awkward for all concerned as Turkey is part of NATO and Russia had a fleet sniffing around the vicinity recently as a show of force.
It's all a bit scary to be honest. As the Earth's natural resources diminish a flashpoint could occur easily which could light the tinderbox to a new World War.
Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:32 pm
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:41 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Neil is out on the front lines and is talking serious.
Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:43 pm
Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:45 pm
Johnny Rythmn wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Neil is out on the front lines and is talking serious.
....and I'm shagging Miss Moneypenny
Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:47 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Johnny Rythmn wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Neil is out on the front lines and is talking serious.
....and I'm shagging Miss Moneypenny
No serious Lully, Neil is in the RAF and has been out to all these counties and is still out there now.
Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:52 pm
Johnny Rythmn wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Johnny Rythmn wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Neil is out on the front lines and is talking serious.
....and I'm shagging Miss Moneypenny
No serious Lully, Neil is in the RAF and has been out to all these counties and is still out there now.
Yeah, I know.
Fear is a great controller.
f**k it, we best beat them scouse feckers then before its too late
Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:59 pm
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:06 pm
moz-dublin wrote:We are all going to die anyway so just live for blow jobs and kebabs until a meglomaniac finishes the game of life
Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:20 pm
Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:26 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:I personally think we should keep a closer eye on the Koreas, North Korea has a new leader and possibly willing to throw his weight around and may wish to unite the Korean peninsula and go to war with South Korea, this would drag America and China into a war on opposing sides. I believe Iran would take advantage of this at start increasing power in the Middle East more than likely invading Iraq, this would increase pressure on America. With America struggling with resources Pakistan would lose out on aid and invade India with support from terrorist cells in Afghanistan. China an ally of Pakistan will commit forces to assist Pakistan and will drag Russia an ally of India and worried about China increasing their power to war and will commit forces in defence of India and there you have your World War
Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:29 pm
Johnny Rythmn wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:I personally think we should keep a closer eye on the Koreas, North Korea has a new leader and possibly willing to throw his weight around and may wish to unite the Korean peninsula and go to war with South Korea, this would drag America and China into a war on opposing sides. I believe Iran would take advantage of this at start increasing power in the Middle East more than likely invading Iraq, this would increase pressure on America. With America struggling with resources Pakistan would lose out on aid and invade India with support from terrorist cells in Afghanistan. China an ally of Pakistan will commit forces to assist Pakistan and will drag Russia an ally of India and worried about China increasing their power to war and will commit forces in defence of India and there you have your World War
You're all fecking mad![]()
...and you Jonny, I thought you were the Oracle, should know better
Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:11 pm
maccydee wrote:We may look at the 2000's like the 1920's and 30's were viewed. Reading around the subject I feel that we are on a road to a big war. Here are some of the clues I have seen recently.
- Iran attempting to get influence in South America. They have openly courted Venezuela and Argentina and I think it isn't a co-incidence that both have been a little more noisy recently about the Falklands. Might be a case of poking little brother (UK) to annoy big brother (USA). It also gives Iran strike back capability should America attack them which brings me onto my next point
- Iran are clearly attempting to develop a nuclear missile capability. Israel in particular are not keen on that happening, neither are the US. For about 18 months acts of sabotage have been taking place on the Iranian nuclear programme. Whether this is Israel through Mossad or the US through their variety of agencies or even MI6 it is happening. When Iran get to within a couple of months of nuclear power they will be attacked. Iran is not Iraq and will not be an easy enemy to vanquish let alone the problems of occupying that vast country. The tactics that were used in Iraq and have been used extensively in Afghanistan were developed by Iranians. If the UK got involved in any attack /occupation of Iran the numbers of British soldiers killed to date will unfortunately be small in number.
- China have been spending a lot on their military and although still far behind the US are developing rapidly. The weapons they are testing are all designed with American superiority in mind. (Carrier killing missiles, aircraft to counter the F22 etc). The rhetoric used regarding Taiwan is becoming more bullish by the day as is their claims on the waters surrounding their country (annoying Japan quite a bit). This is in their desperation to gain more natural resources a desperation that the US shares.
- Pakistan is openly helping the Taliban in Afghanistan in open defiance of America. This is a risky game on their part but they know that the American appetite for war has decreased massively of late and they are getting away with a lot. They are also baiting India and trying to stop Afghanistan and India forming a relationship post NATO withdrawal.
- Russia is also still very much part of the goings on. They are openly allied to Syria which might be the next flashpoint and also supply materials to Iran.
- Turkey are pushing to make themselves a power player in middle eastern affairs. They are openly critical of Israel and have threatened military intervention on the drilling of gases and oils in waters near Cyprus. This is very awkward for all concerned as Turkey is part of NATO and Russia had a fleet sniffing around the vicinity recently as a show of force.
It's all a bit scary to be honest. As the Earth's natural resources diminish a flashpoint could occur easily which could light the tinderbox to a new World War.
Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:32 pm
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