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argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:09 pm

i say f@ck ummmmm :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:10 pm

Fooking Nuke em that's what i say :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:12 pm

didnt i here something about there. being. oil found around the falklands. :roll:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:12 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking Nuke em that's what i say :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

hmmmm,do you know were we can get any nuclear waste tho NUKES :D :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:13 pm

krabb wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking Nuke em that's what i say :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

hmmmm,do you know were we can get any nuclear waste tho NUKES :D :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Leave it with me Chief :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:15 pm

ninianblue wrote:didnt i here something about there. being. oil found around the falklands. :roll:

there probably is,but the falklands are occupied by british,so we have every right to fight for theses islands,i was 18 when we last went to war with argentina,and i feel the same now as i did then,we fight :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:18 pm

this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:18 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
krabb wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking Nuke em that's what i say :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

hmmmm,do you know were we can get any nuclear waste tho NUKES :D :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Leave it with me Chief :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

welldone mate,il make a catapult to fling it at ummm :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:20 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.

:ayatollah: knowing our government they will probably sell our own down the river,and then go and fight another war that got f@ck all to do with us :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:22 pm

Got put on standby to go in 1982, the week after I got back from Northern Ireland!

They won't be able to put me on standby this time! :old: :D

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:24 pm

krabb wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
krabb wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking Nuke em that's what i say :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

hmmmm,do you know were we can get any nuclear waste tho NUKES :D :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Leave it with me Chief :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

welldone mate,il make a catapult to fling it at ummm :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Not giving it to you it will be to unstable in your hands Chief !! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:25 pm

Overthemoon wrote:Got put on standby to go in 1982, the week after I got back from Northern Ireland!

They won't be able to put me on standby this time! :old: :D

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:26 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
krabb wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
krabb wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking Nuke em that's what i say :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

hmmmm,do you know were we can get any nuclear waste tho NUKES :D :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Leave it with me Chief :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

welldone mate,il make a catapult to fling it at ummm :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Not giving it to you it will be to unstable in your hands Chief !! :lol: :lol: :lol:

ok nukes you have the depleeted uranium,and il get a bag of stones for the catapult :D :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:28 pm

krabb wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.

:ayatollah: knowing our government they will probably sell our own down the river,and then go and fight another war that got f@ck all to do with us :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


well the worrying thing is members in our Parliament have already said asked why are we bothering why dont we give them the islands to Argentina, its like going back to before the war and its being made worse with the SNP using it to boost their claim for independence.
The simple fact is only one group of people has any decision to make and its the Population of the Falklands they have their own Government same as the Isle of Man, The Channel Islands, Gibraltar and the whole of the Commonwealth. If the Falklanders want to be Argentinian then fine let them but they dont they are proud to British they want to be British as far as im concerned thats the end of the conversation.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:29 pm

krabb wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
krabb wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
krabb wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking Nuke em that's what i say :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

hmmmm,do you know were we can get any nuclear waste tho NUKES :D :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Leave it with me Chief :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

welldone mate,il make a catapult to fling it at ummm :D :D :D :ayatollah:

Not giving it to you it will be to unstable in your hands Chief !! :lol: :lol: :lol:

ok nukes you have the depleeted uranium,and il get a bag of stones for the catapult :D :ayatollah:

Caused a bit of a CHAIN REACTION there Chief !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:32 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
krabb wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.

:ayatollah: knowing our government they will probably sell our own down the river,and then go and fight another war that got f@ck all to do with us :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


well the worrying thing is members in our Parliament have already said asked why are we bothering why dont we give them the islands to Argentina, its like going back to before the war and its being made worse with the SNP using it to boost their claim for independence.
The simple fact is only one group of people has any decision to make and its the Population of the Falklands they have their own Government same as the Isle of Man, The Channel Islands, Gibraltar and the whole of the Commonwealth. If the Falklanders want to be Argentinian then fine let them but they dont they are proud to British they want to be British as far as im concerned thats the end of the conversation.

totally agree :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:47 pm

It costs us billions of pounds to keep 1200 army on the Falklands.
And we also subsidise the local population with bits and bobs.
A lot of the 'locals' earn good money commercial fishing and living
Standards are better than our migrant infested land, paid for by our taxes.

The land is part of when england ruled the world and that c**t Thatcher
won an election on the back of sending our boys to die in a
War that could have been avoided.

Trouble is (as it always is) brit scientists have surveyed and found oil and minerals
So again (ala middle east) our businesses that fund our government will
Want to control the oil.

Trouble also is (ala northern ireland) brits have settled there and feel british
And not corn beef eating argies - so morally we have a dilema and
Couldn't leave them unless they wanted independence. .

Everyone knows this
So my question is-

Who (what business) is putting the Argies up to this again
Who is behind it and after the oil????

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:50 pm

the falklands id british, its inhabited by british, and will remain british....our boys didnt die on that island to give it away.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:57 pm

rob wrote:the falklands id british, its inhabited by british, and will remain british....our boys didnt die on that island to give it away.

agreed :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:02 pm

f**k the cornbeef eating fuckers its our s and if they want it they will have to fight us for it

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:06 pm

It's one of the most strategic points on the planet for shipping.

The Atlantic meets the Pacific and theirs oil there.

Mmmmmmmm! Tasty...not forgetting the penguins and the Phil Stant effort eh

Seriously, I think the brits should give it to the Paddys as an apology :D

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:09 pm

Johnny Rythmn wrote:It's one of the most strategic points on the planet for shipping.

The Atlantic meets the Pacific and theirs oil there.

Mmmmmmmm! Tasty...not forgetting the penguins and the Phil Stant effort eh

Seriously, I think the brits should give it to the Paddys as an apology :D

lol

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:12 pm

wez 1927 wrote:
Johnny Rythmn wrote:It's one of the most strategic points on the planet for shipping.

The Atlantic meets the Pacific and theirs oil there.

Mmmmmmmm! Tasty...not forgetting the penguins and the Phil Stant effort eh

Seriously, I think the brits should give it to the Paddys as an apology :D

lol



wassupp bruv? u good? :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:17 pm

eddiep wrote:It costs us billions of pounds to keep 1200 army on the Falklands.
And we also subsidise the local population with bits and bobs.
A lot of the 'locals' earn good money commercial fishing and living
Standards are better than our migrant infested land, paid for by our taxes.

The land is part of when england ruled the world and that c**t Thatcher
won an election on the back of sending our boys to die in a
War that could have been avoided.

Trouble is (as it always is) brit scientists have surveyed and found oil and minerals
So again (ala middle east) our businesses that fund our government will
Want to control the oil.

Trouble also is (ala northern ireland) brits have settled there and feel british
And not corn beef eating argies - so morally we have a dilema and
Couldn't leave them unless they wanted independence. .

Everyone knows this
So my question is-

Who (what business) is putting the Argies up to this again
Who is behind it and after the oil????

The military point you made isnt strictly true
yes there is a garrison based on the Falklands at this governments request
The Falklands has its own military called the Falkland Islands Defence Force which is a company sized light infantry unit and completely funded by the Island themselves it is also trained in mountain rescue and trained in launching raids against illegal fishing activity
apart from larger military actions the islands are completely self sustainable.
I dont agree with the oil argument as drawing oil out of the south pacific would be highly dangerous and very expensive
from what i understand from the argument is for fishing territories which the Argentines cant get hold of because of the Falkland Islands governance also tourism has grown in strength over the years and Argentina would love to get their hands on it.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:20 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
eddiep wrote:It costs us billions of pounds to keep 1200 army on the Falklands.
And we also subsidise the local population with bits and bobs.
A lot of the 'locals' earn good money commercial fishing and living
Standards are better than our migrant infested land, paid for by our taxes.

The land is part of when england ruled the world and that c**t Thatcher
won an election on the back of sending our boys to die in a
War that could have been avoided.

Trouble is (as it always is) brit scientists have surveyed and found oil and minerals
So again (ala middle east) our businesses that fund our government will
Want to control the oil.

Trouble also is (ala northern ireland) brits have settled there and feel british
And not corn beef eating argies - so morally we have a dilema and
Couldn't leave them unless they wanted independence. .

Everyone knows this
So my question is-

Who (what business) is putting the Argies up to this again
Who is behind it and after the oil????

The military point you made isnt strictly true
yes there is a garrison based on the Falklands at this governments request
The Falklands has its own military called the Falkland Islands Defence Force which is a company sized light infantry unit and completely funded by the Island themselves it is also trained in mountain rescue and trained in launching raids against illegal fishing activity
apart from larger military actions the islands are completely self sustainable.
I dont agree with the oil argument as drawing oil out of the south pacific would be highly dangerous and very expensive
from what i understand from the argument is for fishing territories which the Argentines cant get hold of because of the Falkland Islands governance also tourism has grown in strength over the years and Argentina would love to get their hands on it.



Johnny you are the oracle bruv!

You know everything, don't you?
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.......ya fecking gobshite :lol:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:25 pm

Johnny Rythmn wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
eddiep wrote:It costs us billions of pounds to keep 1200 army on the Falklands.
And we also subsidise the local population with bits and bobs.
A lot of the 'locals' earn good money commercial fishing and living
Standards are better than our migrant infested land, paid for by our taxes.

The land is part of when england ruled the world and that c**t Thatcher
won an election on the back of sending our boys to die in a
War that could have been avoided.

Trouble is (as it always is) brit scientists have surveyed and found oil and minerals
So again (ala middle east) our businesses that fund our government will
Want to control the oil.

Trouble also is (ala northern ireland) brits have settled there and feel british
And not corn beef eating argies - so morally we have a dilema and
Couldn't leave them unless they wanted independence. .

Everyone knows this
So my question is-

Who (what business) is putting the Argies up to this again
Who is behind it and after the oil????

The military point you made isnt strictly true
yes there is a garrison based on the Falklands at this governments request
The Falklands has its own military called the Falkland Islands Defence Force which is a company sized light infantry unit and completely funded by the Island themselves it is also trained in mountain rescue and trained in launching raids against illegal fishing activity
apart from larger military actions the islands are completely self sustainable.
I dont agree with the oil argument as drawing oil out of the south pacific would be highly dangerous and very expensive
from what i understand from the argument is for fishing territories which the Argentines cant get hold of because of the Falkland Islands governance also tourism has grown in strength over the years and Argentina would love to get their hands on it.



Johnny you are the oracle bruv!

You know everything, don't you?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.......ya fecking gobshite :lol:


lol i dont know about everything but i do like to keep up to date with current affairs lol

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:18 am

JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.


Yes, there are British subjects on those Islands who want the Islands to
remain British. Thats fair enough. Britain getting behind them and
saying 'f**k off Argentina' is also fair enough.

But right up until the time Britain colonised the Islands, Argentina were
still claiming them as THEIR sovereign territory. So by what divine right
do Britain hold claim to the Islands? Argentina called them trespassers
then and call them trespassers now!!!

Argentina's argument (valid, of course, in their eyes) is that the people
who by self-determination, claim the Islands for Britain are seen as no
more than squatters by Argentina. Squatters who refuse to leave and who
have had the cheek to call the property their own.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:19 am

taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.


Yes, there are British subjects on those Islands who want the Islands to
remain British. Thats fair enough. Britain getting behind them and
saying 'f**k off Argentina' is also fair enough.

But right up until the time Britain colonised the Islands, Argentina were
still claiming them as THEIR sovereign territory. So by what divine right
do Britain hold claim to the Islands? Argentina called them trespassers
then and call them trespassers now!!!

Argentina's argument (valid, of course, in their eyes) is that the people
who by self-determination, claim the Islands for Britain are seen as no
more than squatters by Argentina. Squatters who refuse to leave and who
have had the cheek to call the property their own.


its one simple answer its the populations right to determine who they are governed by the population have chosen to be British thats it no other argument is required.
Its the same argument the Scottish are giving that its their right to be ruled/governed by who they want self determination is the key
Self determination is behind the reason why our war in Iraq is largely considered illegal
Its why our intervention in Libya is widely considered a successful intervention.
If the population of the Falkland Islands want to be governed by Argentina they can but they dont, they want to be British and are happy with that
Its a strange situation given they are so far away but if you want to look at it on a geographical view we might as well give the Channel Islands to the French or the Germans as I believe they were the last occupying force.
The World has moved on since we had Soverign rights and the rights of conquerors its evolved and recognises the rights of self-determination and not the rights of the people who wave the biggest sabre.
If Argentina force a regime unwanted by a population the UN should have alarm bells ringing.
We seem to be more concerned about countries that have nothing to do with us and are prepared to stand up for their self-determination but seem to criticise our own rights and leave our own population hang out to dry.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:51 am

eddiep wrote:It costs us billions of pounds to keep 1200 army on the Falklands.
And we also subsidise the local population with bits and bobs.
A lot of the 'locals' earn good money commercial fishing and living
Standards are better than our migrant infested land, paid for by our taxes.

The land is part of when england ruled the world and that c**t Thatcher
won an election on the back of sending our boys to die in a
War that could have been avoided.

Trouble is (as it always is) brit scientists have surveyed and found oil and minerals
So again (ala middle east) our businesses that fund our government will
Want to control the oil.

Trouble also is (ala northern ireland) brits have settled there and feel british
And not corn beef eating argies - so morally we have a dilema and
Couldn't leave them unless they wanted independence. .

Everyone knows this
So my question is-

Who (what business) is putting the Argies up to this again
Who is behind it and after the oil????


The Argies have been pretty consistent with wanting the Falklands (Malvinas) since the 60s. The biggest mistake they made was invading as we would have probably given them back had they not.

It's not just a case of scientists saying there is oil. They have drilled it and found quality oil. When I was down there in June 2010 the guys were going back and fore to the rig from MPA. One of the guys came over to ATC one day as we had stayed open until 3am to get them back and brought us some goodies. He said if we have any spare cash to invest in Rockhopper (the company running the oil exploration) as they have found some oil that would be commercially viable. He said they had been testing it for 3 weeks and it's good quality but they have to test for 4 weeks before releasing to the stock market and once they did the shares would double at least. Us guys in ATC ignored him but lo and behold the shares have increased four fold since then. All the Falkland Islanders have shares in this company and once it is sold the Falklands will be totally self sufficient by paying for the presence of our Forces there (which isn't billions per year).

We don't subsidise the Islands at all apart from our military presence. The people there in fact pay British universities a lot of money to send their students here for education.

It's a lovely place and the people are on the whole very friendly.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:50 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.


Yes, there are British subjects on those Islands who want the Islands to
remain British. Thats fair enough. Britain getting behind them and
saying 'f**k off Argentina' is also fair enough.

But right up until the time Britain colonised the Islands, Argentina were
still claiming them as THEIR sovereign territory. So by what divine right
do Britain hold claim to the Islands? Argentina called them trespassers
then and call them trespassers now!!!

Argentina's argument (valid, of course, in their eyes) is that the people
who by self-determination, claim the Islands for Britain are seen as no
more than squatters by Argentina. Squatters who refuse to leave and who
have had the cheek to call the property their own.


its one simple answer its the populations right to determine who they are governed by the population have chosen to be British thats it no other argument is required.
Its the same argument the Scottish are giving that its their right to be ruled/governed by who they want self determination is the key
Self determination is behind the reason why our war in Iraq is largely considered illegal
Its why our intervention in Libya is widely considered a successful intervention.
If the population of the Falkland Islands want to be governed by Argentina they can but they dont, they want to be British and are happy with that
Its a strange situation given they are so far away but if you want to look at it on a geographical view we might as well give the Channel Islands to the French or the Germans as I believe they were the last occupying force.
The World has moved on since we had Soverign rights and the rights of conquerors its evolved and recognises the rights of self-determination and not the rights of the people who wave the biggest sabre.
If Argentina force a regime unwanted by a population the UN should have alarm bells ringing.
We seem to be more concerned about countries that have nothing to do with us and are prepared to stand up for their self-determination but seem to criticise our own rights and leave our own population hang out to dry.




Its all well and good for you to say "ah that was 1840 and times have changed" etc etc

But the Argentinian garrison at the time was forcibly removed by a bigger Naval
Force simply because Britain decided THEY wanted the Islands

At THAT time, the population would have voted to remain part of Argentina...

Britain never gave them the choice, they threw them off and colonised it.

Britain forced regime change back then.

Self-determination eh? The World recognises it? Really?

Try telling millions of Palestinians that