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Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:12 pm

I have some query's that i am sure Malky's groupies can answer for me...why on earth does anyone think that Malky will do better in the forthcoming loan transfer window than he did in the last one,mind you i suppose he couldn't worse......why is it that City don't appear to be able to play decent football over the full 90 minutes,how many matches have you seen that you could honestly say that the Bluebirds controlled the game for most of the time,its my honest opinion that they play one half of the game like worthy promotion contenders but then come the other half of the game they play like relegation contenders....why is Malky becoming as predictable with his substitutions as Dave Jones was, i end my posting with these comments,i know i will probably get some stick from the groupies for this post but i would remind them that this is a forum and not some kind of love in for Malky where people are allowed their point of view without fear of verbal abuse or ridicule and in conclusion if being called a groupie is offensive to some on here i will refrain from using the term again

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:28 pm

angelis49 wrote:I have some query's that i am sure Malky's groupies can answer for me...why on earth does anyone think that Malky will do better in the forthcoming loan transfer window than he did in the last one,mind you i suppose he couldn't worse......why is it that City don't appear to be able to play decent football over the full 90 minutes,how many matches have you seen that you could honestly say that the Bluebirds controlled the game for most of the time,its my honest opinion that they play one half of the game like worthy promotion contenders but then come the other half of the game they play like relegation contenders....why is Malky becoming as predictable with his substitutions as Dave Jones was, i end my posting with these comments,i know i will probably get some stick from the groupies for this post but i would remind them that this is a forum and not some kind of love in for Malky where people are allowed their point of view without fear of verbal abuse or ridicule and in conclusion if being called a groupie is offensive to some on here i will refrain from using the term again

I strongly disgaree with one part, the most I just disagree with :lol:

the part where you comment on us playing half games well and the other half like relagation contenders.

having been to every home game, and most away. I find we tend to dominate 90% of home games, we dont have our home record and average over 2 goals a game (i think) by playing 45mins like were 24th in the league.
As for lastnight, 1st half we had 58% possesion and controled the game.
If anyone thinks you go to places like Soton and dominate from start to finish are deluded. 2nd half we were on the back foot, but still felt we did more than enough to earn a well earned hard fought draw, at a team that won 36ish home games in a row leading upto xmas!!

As for the groupie comment, if having wet dreams over Malky puts me in that bracket then so be it :ayatollah:

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:35 pm

angelis49 wrote:I have some query's that i am sure Malky's groupies can answer for me...why on earth does anyone think that Malky will do better in the forthcoming loan transfer window than he did in the last one,mind you i suppose he couldn't worse......why is it that City don't appear to be able to play decent football over the full 90 minutes,how many matches have you seen that you could honestly say that the Bluebirds controlled the game for most of the time,its my honest opinion that they play one half of the game like worthy promotion contenders but then come the other half of the game they play like relegation contenders....why is Malky becoming as predictable with his substitutions as Dave Jones was, i end my posting with these comments,i know i will probably get some stick from the groupies for this post but i would remind them that this is a forum and not some kind of love in for Malky where people are allowed their point of view without fear of verbal abuse or ridicule and in conclusion if being called a groupie is offensive to some on here i will refrain from using the term again



what happened in the last loan window then as that comment seems to have passed me by. did we sign any players then as i cant remember getting anyone so how than he do worse than sign no one.
with regards to the comments about playing like relegation candidates the proof is in the pudding when you look at the league table which shows clearly that we are promotion contenders.

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:38 pm

angelis49 wrote:I have some query's that i am sure Malky's groupies can answer for me...why on earth does anyone think that Malky will do better in the forthcoming loan transfer window than he did in the last one,mind you i suppose he couldn't worse......why is it that City don't appear to be able to play decent football over the full 90 minutes,how many matches have you seen that you could honestly say that the Bluebirds controlled the game for most of the time,its my honest opinion that they play one half of the game like worthy promotion contenders but then come the other half of the game they play like relegation contenders....why is Malky becoming as predictable with his substitutions as Dave Jones was, i end my posting with these comments,i know i will probably get some stick from the groupies for this post but i would remind them that this is a forum and not some kind of love in for Malky where people are allowed their point of view without fear of verbal abuse or ridicule and in conclusion if being called a groupie is offensive to some on here i will refrain from using the term again


We're 3 points from top spot and 1 point from 2nd. I'd be happy with either of those places in order to get promoted. Like most CCFC fans, I'm not a fan of the play-offs any longer!

There's still a long way to go and we are well placed, but I would be worried if we lost the next 2 games - which we could, because they're both tough.

I questioned the substitutions against Palace last week, but we still won, so I'm not overly concerned. As for lasting 90 minutes, we lasted a lot longer than that against Palace and I feel that the current squad are fitter than those in previous seasons.

Loanees may or may not arrive and I would've been worried about the lack of new players or loan signings a few months back, but now I couldn't care less. It's quite possible that we could ride our luck and not need new faces.

The fact is, we have only lost 4 league games this season and that's the fewest in The Championship.

You can say what you like on here, mate, as far as I'm concerned, because I'm all for free speech. I'm not too impressed when you call people "pea brains" etc, just because they don't agree with you, though. It's just a difference of opinion in a lot of these cases and not right or wrong.

You have a negative view of the situation with CCFC at the moment and I have a positive one - in my opinion.

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:47 pm

angelis49 wrote:I have some query's that i am sure Malky's groupies can answer for me...why on earth does anyone think that Malky will do better in the forthcoming loan transfer window than he did in the last one,mind you i suppose he couldn't worse......why is it that City don't appear to be able to play decent football over the full 90 minutes,how many matches have you seen that you could honestly say that the Bluebirds controlled the game for most of the time,its my honest opinion that they play one half of the game like worthy promotion contenders but then come the other half of the game they play like relegation contenders....why is Malky becoming as predictable with his substitutions as Dave Jones was, i end my posting with these comments,i know i will probably get some stick from the groupies for this post but i would remind them that this is a forum and not some kind of love in for Malky where people are allowed their point of view without fear of verbal abuse or ridicule and in conclusion if being called a groupie is offensive to some on here i will refrain from using the term again


First of all, we are Malky's groupies because he unites us. He knows how to connect with the fans, he appreciates us, and most importantly - he thanks us. this has effected the way in which the fans respond to him, both in and away from the stadium.

I can not remember a manager that makes such an effort, to bring us all together, in a harmony that all fans are/were happy with, in the 22 years I have been watching City play for.

It reflects in the way the players perform for him, and the respect the rest of the clubs working staff show for him too.

Regarding why Malky will do better in the loan window than Jones did is simple. Malky came in to a club that had 10 players running around a training ground, and from the offset knew he needed to do a whole lot of rebuilding. He brought in 12 players (i think? One of which was 2 days ago, so yes he could do worse actually and not bring anyone in at all) on PERMANENT deals which instantly added value to the team through the now assets we have acquired. He hasn't made any spur of the moment panic signings, and his theory and attitude on the topic has remained consistent throughout!

The scenario you suggest regarding a team of two different halves is a a mixture of both tactics being applied, usually away from home might I add (as I've seen many a storming second half at home, than I have 1st halves!) and the pure hunger and determination from the Home team, and manager aided encouragement when on the back foot. OK there are times when we go ahead in a game, that we should actually try and kill it off and step up a gear, but when it comes to the business end of the season, it can be just as dangerous to gamble so much, and the safer option can sometimes be to defend a lead and try and take a point, especially from the stronger teams in the league.

Some did mention this morning, that we should have probably just kept attacking and really pushing forward last night to remain on top so to speak, and to keep applying the pressure, but with the substitutions and tactics applied by Malky last night, It seemed that he was happy to take the point, rather than nothing at all. Yes it was possible we may have lost the game with some of the chances they failed to take, but there were many we failed to take as well (Gunnarson having 2 or 3 if I remember rightly!).

We could sit and argue about 2 halves, tactics, substitutions all day long, but i would have bet my arse that Jones would not have won half of the games we have won this season, IF he'd have come into this club and had to have bought 12 of his own players. To compare them on this level is slightly unfair I would say!! especially with some of the shit Jones has bought in the past, and the amount of money he wasted in doing it!

On another note about predictability, you've got to be kidding me right? He has brought Mason, Ralls, Gested, McPhail & even Blake in and out of the team, some of which do not even appear on the bench even when fit. We don't always start/play with the same team, on numerous occasions the defence has been slightly different, the midfield has been set up differently, and even when we play 5 in the middle, it's not always the same style of play. When he makes substitutions, it is usually a reaction after an event in the game, it is done early and it changes the tactics! this is called a plan B - something Jones was pretty inept with!!

You're entitled to your opinion, but I personally believe you are way off the mark! and that is my opinion. :ayatollah:

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:52 pm

angelis49 wrote:I have some query's that i am sure Malky's groupies can answer for me...why on earth does anyone think that Malky will do better in the forthcoming loan transfer window than he did in the last one,mind you i suppose he couldn't worse......why is it that City don't appear to be able to play decent football over the full 90 minutes,how many matches have you seen that you could honestly say that the Bluebirds controlled the game for most of the time,its my honest opinion that they play one half of the game like worthy promotion contenders but then come the other half of the game they play like relegation contenders....why is Malky becoming as predictable with his substitutions as Dave Jones was, i end my posting with these comments,i know i will probably get some stick from the groupies for this post but i would remind them that this is a forum and not some kind of love in for Malky where people are allowed their point of view without fear of verbal abuse or ridicule and in conclusion if being called a groupie is offensive to some on here i will refrain from using the term again


I disagree with everything in that post but respect the right of the poster to express his views. If that makes me a MM groupie so be it.

In Malkay I trust. Simples. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:54 pm

castleblue wrote:
angelis49 wrote:I have some query's that i am sure Malky's groupies can answer for me...why on earth does anyone think that Malky will do better in the forthcoming loan transfer window than he did in the last one,mind you i suppose he couldn't worse......why is it that City don't appear to be able to play decent football over the full 90 minutes,how many matches have you seen that you could honestly say that the Bluebirds controlled the game for most of the time,its my honest opinion that they play one half of the game like worthy promotion contenders but then come the other half of the game they play like relegation contenders....why is Malky becoming as predictable with his substitutions as Dave Jones was, i end my posting with these comments,i know i will probably get some stick from the groupies for this post but i would remind them that this is a forum and not some kind of love in for Malky where people are allowed their point of view without fear of verbal abuse or ridicule and in conclusion if being called a groupie is offensive to some on here i will refrain from using the term again


I disagree with everything in that post but respect the right of the poster to express his views. If that makes me a MM groupie so be it.

In Malkay I trust. Simples. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I disagreed as well, as you can see above, But when I see poor posts like that - I will have my say. He wanted some reasons - so I fired them off. Reading that post back again, and It is utter and total bollocks In my opinion of course! :ayatollah:

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:55 pm

The other thing you need to consider is this.Malky clearly had money to spend,DJ didn't.I'm hoping now with this money he'll be able to go after better loan players than the ones DJ signed last year cos maybe with that extra money we can afford to pay an extra percentage of the wages to the parent club than we could this time last year which will in turn mean we can go after better players.Nows not the time to throw your toys out of the pram just because we didn't spend 5mill in the transfer window.As a fan of nearly 40 yrs I support this club the best way I can by attending as many matches as I can.I was never anti DJ but this fella malky is something else.Its really easy spending someone elses money and then walking away when it doesn't work.With this guy in charge I'm confident we won't be having another fire sale any time soon.I've always felt that telling Malky how to run this club is a bit like teaching your father how to f**k and there are more than a few on here that fall into that category. :lol:

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:57 pm

Merlin wrote:
castleblue wrote:
angelis49 wrote:I have some query's that i am sure Malky's groupies can answer for me...why on earth does anyone think that Malky will do better in the forthcoming loan transfer window than he did in the last one,mind you i suppose he couldn't worse......why is it that City don't appear to be able to play decent football over the full 90 minutes,how many matches have you seen that you could honestly say that the Bluebirds controlled the game for most of the time,its my honest opinion that they play one half of the game like worthy promotion contenders but then come the other half of the game they play like relegation contenders....why is Malky becoming as predictable with his substitutions as Dave Jones was, i end my posting with these comments,i know i will probably get some stick from the groupies for this post but i would remind them that this is a forum and not some kind of love in for Malky where people are allowed their point of view without fear of verbal abuse or ridicule and in conclusion if being called a groupie is offensive to some on here i will refrain from using the term again


I disagree with everything in that post but respect the right of the poster to express his views. If that makes me a MM groupie so be it.

In Malkay I trust. Simples. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I disagreed as well, as you can see above, But when I see poor posts like that - I will have my say. He wanted some reasons - so I fired them off. Reading that post back again, and It is utter and total bollocks In my opinion of course! :ayatollah:


Well said Craig it is utter bollocks because everyone knows I'm no Malkay Mackay groupie.

I'm his bitch. ;) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:03 pm

castleblue wrote:
Merlin wrote:
castleblue wrote:
angelis49 wrote:I have some query's that i am sure Malky's groupies can answer for me...why on earth does anyone think that Malky will do better in the forthcoming loan transfer window than he did in the last one,mind you i suppose he couldn't worse......why is it that City don't appear to be able to play decent football over the full 90 minutes,how many matches have you seen that you could honestly say that the Bluebirds controlled the game for most of the time,its my honest opinion that they play one half of the game like worthy promotion contenders but then come the other half of the game they play like relegation contenders....why is Malky becoming as predictable with his substitutions as Dave Jones was, i end my posting with these comments,i know i will probably get some stick from the groupies for this post but i would remind them that this is a forum and not some kind of love in for Malky where people are allowed their point of view without fear of verbal abuse or ridicule and in conclusion if being called a groupie is offensive to some on here i will refrain from using the term again


I disagree with everything in that post but respect the right of the poster to express his views. If that makes me a MM groupie so be it.

In Malkay I trust. Simples. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I disagreed as well, as you can see above, But when I see poor posts like that - I will have my say. He wanted some reasons - so I fired them off. Reading that post back again, and It is utter and total bollocks In my opinion of course! :ayatollah:


Well said Craig it is utter bollocks because everyone knows I'm no Malkay Mackay groupie.

I'm his bitch. ;) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Is that a group that I can enrol in? ;)

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:08 pm

Mate, you're entitled to your opinions and to ask questions. All I will say, and this is my observation of your post and in no way meant to be abusive, you appear to have very little technical insight of the game and what makes it tick. If I'm wrong about that I apologize. The hard facts are that we're in a great position in what matters, ie the League. The Carling Cup is just a side show. The only stat that matters in football is points on the board and if anyone can honestly complain about that at this stage of the season I think they're totally deluded. Yes we need a decent wide player with a bit of pace and yes we need another striker but to be where we are right now is in a very large part down to the management and organization, including tactics deployed, by MM and his team. God forbid we return to the pre-historic 4-4-2 tactics of Dave Moans.

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:12 pm

Lost Profits wrote:Mate, you're entitled to your opinions and to ask questions. All I will say, and this is my observation of your post and in no way meant to be abusive, you appear to have very little technical insight of the game and what makes it tick. If I'm wrong about that I apologize. The hard facts are that we're in a great position in what matters, ie the League. The Carling Cup is just a side show. The only stat that matters in football is points on the board and if anyone can honestly complain about that at this stage of the season I think they're totally deluded. Yes we need a decent wide player with a bit of pace and yes we need another striker but to be where we are right now is in a very large part down to the management and organization, including tactics deployed, by MM and his team. God forbid we return to the pre-historic 4-4-2 tactics of Dave Moans.



Good post. Disagree about 4-4-2, though. If it works, use it and if it doesn't, use Plan B. Moans didn't have one, sadly.

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:38 pm

I never thought for one moment that i would get anyone to agree with my..why...posting...but i must say i was encouraged by the reasoned and well put together postings from those who bothered to respond,they all disagreed with me but they were free of verbal abuse and ridicule,long may it continue, as for me calling some people pea brains i would appeal to them to look back at what i have been called over the past few weeks and months if you did it would almost seem to be called pea brain was a term of endearment when compared of what has been aimed at me....let me end this post by simply saying its a lot harder for someone to sit some distance from the camp fire than to join the majority enjoying the warm and comfort of the fire

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:57 pm

What an absolutely ridiculous post!!!!!!!!

At the start of the current season every Cardiff fan would of been happy with a mid table finish and any fan who says otherwise is lying. Malky came into the club and has brought players in such as Conway, Cowie, Turner, Gunnarsson etc (I could name more,) who work their arses off until the final seconds of games and wear the shirt with pride. you say we play like relegation contenders at times yet we sit 3rd in the leage, 3 points off top and in the Carling Cup final knocking out a Premier League team in the process!

There's just no pleasing some fans and you are one for example that whatever Malky, the players and the board do it will never be good enough!!!

Absolute joke of a person

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:17 pm

Firstly Lets not get personal as the person who wrote the thread has a right to express him self

Personally, I dont agree with much of what he wrote , however their should be some concern at the issue of bringing in new players in the loan Market , as evidence suggest other clubs are doing much better signing new players to strengthen which could be our down fall later in the season when injuries occur .

Im a Malky Fan and think he is doing great for the club and the unity of the club and the players and fans ., however I just have worries he may have misjudged it with not making 2 additional signings, The fact it is claimed we were out bid does not rub off on me as being totally sincere.

cityyyyyyyyyyy

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:25 pm

angelis49 wrote:I never thought for one moment that i would get anyone to agree with my..why...posting...but i must say i was encouraged by the reasoned and well put together postings from those who bothered to respond,they all disagreed with me but they were free of verbal abuse and ridicule,long may it continue, as for me calling some people pea brains i would appeal to them to look back at what i have been called over the past few weeks and months if you did it would almost seem to be called pea brain was a term of endearment when compared of what has been aimed at me....let me end this post by simply saying its a lot harder for someone to sit some distance from the camp fire than to join the majority enjoying the warm and comfort of the fire


Get off of your butt and move closer to the fire, or stay out in the cold. :dontknow:

With this lot on here though, it's more like the "bean scene" from Blazing Saddles. :D

Re: Why?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:01 pm

Nedd Glas wrote:
Lost Profits wrote:Mate, you're entitled to your opinions and to ask questions. All I will say, and this is my observation of your post and in no way meant to be abusive, you appear to have very little technical insight of the game and what makes it tick. If I'm wrong about that I apologize. The hard facts are that we're in a great position in what matters, ie the League. The Carling Cup is just a side show. The only stat that matters in football is points on the board and if anyone can honestly complain about that at this stage of the season I think they're totally deluded. Yes we need a decent wide player with a bit of pace and yes we need another striker but to be where we are right now is in a very large part down to the management and organization, including tactics deployed, by MM and his team. God forbid we return to the pre-historic 4-4-2 tactics of Dave Moans.



Good post. Disagree about 4-4-2, though. If it works, use it and if it doesn't, use Plan B. Moans didn't have one, sadly.


Let me clarify my comment about Moans and 4-4-2. You're quiet correct if it works use it. What I meant was that Moans knew no other system, irrespective of players available and just as importantly what the opposition is doing. Moans barely had a Plan A nevermind a Plan B and was clueless in terms of being able to change shape to cope with the opposition.