i wonder how many family stand none attendies

will suddenly obtain wembley tickets,i do think that this is something that has to be looked at

Totally agree, someone who has a season ticket for an under 9 who has only brought them a few times renews early and has got 4 tickets for Wembley. Just doesn't seem right somehow.

Totally agree, someone who has a season ticket for an under 9 who has only brought them a few times renews early and has got 4 tickets for Wembley. Just doesn't seem right somehow.

thats how the country works the rich get what they want when they want and the poor get f**k all or 2nd prize in this case get used to it

On the other side of the coin, my nine year old has attended every game except twothis season and has done since he first had his season ticket three years ago, my other son who also qualifies for a discount in family stand has only missed one game in three years and we have been to six away games this season including tonight so not everyone buys them in the hope of getting something back when the big games come around.

Well I'm in this category, my 13 yo son lives in Stoke with his mum, I get him every other weekend, sometimes this falls on an away game some times a home game, he winds up seeing around ten home games and ten away games a year.

I go to 99% of home and away games, without having a season ticket for my son, i'd struggle to get him a seat next to me and would more than likely have to miss some games myself.

Now how many games are you suggesting he must attend to justify his ticket, even though I am prepared to pay what ever the season ticket cost is every years has I have done since dot.

People are so quick to judge and ask for rules that suit them to be imposed, oh, and whilst I'm on the subject, I even have the nerve and audacity to leave my seat at home games two minutes from the end, this ensures I get home 30 minutes earlier than I would do if I stayed to the end.

Well I'm in this category, my 13 yo son lives in Stoke with his mum, I get him every other weekend, sometimes this falls on an away game some times a home game, he winds up seeing around ten home games and ten away games a year.

I go to 99% of home and away games, without having a season ticket for my son, i'd struggle to get him a seat next to me and would more than likely have to miss some games myself.

Now how many games are you suggesting he must attend to justify his ticket, even though I am prepared to pay what ever the season ticket cost is every years has I have done since dot.

People are so quick to judge and ask for rules that suit them to be imposed, oh, and whilst I'm on the subject, I even have the nerve and audacity to leave my seat at home games two minutes from the end, this ensures I get home 30 minutes earlier than I would do if I stayed to the end.

tut tut the very nerve of some fans

Well I'm in this category, my 13 yo son lives in Stoke with his mum, I get him every other weekend, sometimes this falls on an away game some times a home game, he winds up seeing around ten home games and ten away games a year.

I go to 99% of home and away games, without having a season ticket for my son, i'd struggle to get him a seat next to me and would more than likely have to miss some games myself.

Now how many games are you suggesting he must attend to justify his ticket, even though I am prepared to pay what ever the season ticket cost is every years has I have done since dot.

People are so quick to judge and ask for rules that suit them to be imposed, oh, and whilst I'm on the subject, I even have the nerve and audacity to leave my seat at home games two minutes from the end, this ensures I get home 30 minutes earlier than I would do if I stayed to the end.

bloodyhell,of course its not everyone,we all know that there are genuine cases out their,but you know as well as i do,that a fair number of seats have been reserved by people for exactly this situation,£10 buys you a seat for a child,hence the same empty seats by me game after game.

Well I'm in this category, my 13 yo son lives in Stoke with his mum, I get him every other weekend, sometimes this falls on an away game some times a home game, he winds up seeing around ten home games and ten away games a year.

I go to 99% of home and away games, without having a season ticket for my son, i'd struggle to get him a seat next to me and would more than likely have to miss some games myself.

Now how many games are you suggesting he must attend to justify his ticket, even though I am prepared to pay what ever the season ticket cost is every years has I have done since dot.

People are so quick to judge and ask for rules that suit them to be imposed, oh, and whilst I'm on the subject, I even have the nerve and audacity to leave my seat at home games two minutes from the end, this ensures I get home 30 minutes earlier than I would do if I stayed to the end.

and yes gwyn.......ive seen you go early and that to is not on,

Krabb, I'm in that position with my daughter. I usually just go with my son but the three of us have season tickets. My daughter doesn't go often at all but if my wife is working when there is a game on, my son and I wouldn't be able to go if I couldn't take my daughter.

I won't be using her ticket to get a ticket for Wembley because she doesn't want to go but I wouldn't object to anyone in my position doing so. My argument is that I've put a few bob into the club paying for my season ticket and my son's (he's the next price bracket up as he's 11). And she's been going on and off for 3 years since the age of 5 so is more of a fan than some who will be going!

As for league games, there's so few games when the ground is totally full it's not like anyone who wants to go to a game is missing out because of my daughter's seat. I do occasionally take a friend's son too using my daughter's season ticket or an adult friend sometimes upgrades it so hopefully it will help lead to a few new City fans.

Am not saying that everyone in the family stand is the same, but as you said Gwyn if he didnt have a season ticket he would struggle to get a seat by you but how many times is the family stand a quarter empty when its supposed to be sold out.

Am not saying that everyone in the family stand is the same, but as you said Gwyn if he didnt have a season ticket he would struggle to get a seat by you but how many times is the family stand a quarter empty when its supposed to be sold out.

Answer: Every home game.

Krabb, I'm in that position with my daughter. I usually just go with my son but the three of us have season tickets. My daughter doesn't go often at all but if my wife is working when there is a game on, my son and I wouldn't be able to go if I couldn't take my daughter.

I won't be using her ticket to get a ticket for Wembley because she doesn't want to go but I wouldn't object to anyone in my position doing so. My argument is that I've put a few bob into the club paying for my season ticket and my son's (he's the next price bracket up as he's 11). And she's been going on and off for 3 years since the age of 5 so is more of a fan than some who will be going!

As for league games, there's so few games when the ground is totally full it's not like anyone who wants to go to a game is missing out because of my daughter's seat. I do occasionally take a friend's son too using my daughter's season ticket or an adult friend sometimes upgrades it so hopefully it will help lead to a few new City fans.

as above its not a go at everyone,we all got situations,but a guy on here cant get seats in the family stand,yet i sit behind the goal and seats around me,3 in particular have never been sat in,and this is not something new,its been brought to the attention of CCS by carl.the 3 seats infront of me have never been sat in since stadium opened fact.

Well I'm in this category, my 13 yo son lives in Stoke with his mum, I get him every other weekend, sometimes this falls on an away game some times a home game, he winds up seeing around ten home games and ten away games a year.

I go to 99% of home and away games, without having a season ticket for my son, i'd struggle to get him a seat next to me and would more than likely have to miss some games myself.

Now how many games are you suggesting he must attend to justify his ticket, even though I am prepared to pay what ever the season ticket cost is every years has I have done since dot.

People are so quick to judge and ask for rules that suit them to be imposed, oh, and whilst I'm on the subject, I even have the nerve and audacity to leave my seat at home games two minutes from the end, this ensures I get home 30 minutes earlier than I would do if I stayed to the end.

bloodyhell,of course its not everyone,we all know that there are genuine cases out their,but you know as well as i do,that a fair number of seats have been reserved by people for exactly this situation,£10 buys you a seat for a child,hence the same empty seats by me game after game.

We ain't sold the ground out yet, when we do I'm sure the club will come up with something, until then if there's empty seats, they gonna be somewhere.
I and others have suggested a give back scheme, if for instance you have a season ticket and can't make a game, you can give it to the club and they can resell it, they can possibly give you a voucher then for say half the amount to spend in the shop, or off next years season ticket.

My lad only misses the night games, if during school time.

Well get shagging then, get some kids, then you will get the benefits too.

Think of the future, breed future fans as once a city fan always a city fan.
Shag for Cardiff City you know it makes sense.

There is of course a counter aide to this and that is how many Family Stand Season Ticket holders won't be going to Wembley.

Does everyone really believe that only Family Stand ST holders miss games, I have read threads here stating 5,000 ST holders have missed games and thats almost the entire Family Stand. It's not always possible for people to attend ALL games, ST holders or not work, family maybe holidays are all reasons why people miss games.

For the same reason not ALL ST holders will go to Wembley and whilst some will find that incredible it will happen. I have not missed a home game in years and go to the odd away game, my grandson who has been to all but one home game (Holiday) and 2 away games won't be going to Wembley. The reason is I have a health problem and unless I get the all clear I cannot risk things, I'm praying the Doctors tell me things are OK when I see them next week.

I will renew our ST the day they go on sale and even if I was going I would not have purchased extra tickets. Hopefully others will do the same and there will be enough to go around.

Krabb, I'm in that position with my daughter. I usually just go with my son but the three of us have season tickets. My daughter doesn't go often at all but if my wife is working when there is a game on, my son and I wouldn't be able to go if I couldn't take my daughter.

I won't be using her ticket to get a ticket for Wembley because she doesn't want to go but I wouldn't object to anyone in my position doing so. My argument is that I've put a few bob into the club paying for my season ticket and my son's (he's the next price bracket up as he's 11). And she's been going on and off for 3 years since the age of 5 so is more of a fan than some who will be going!

As for league games, there's so few games when the ground is totally full it's not like anyone who wants to go to a game is missing out because of my daughter's seat. I do occasionally take a friend's son too using my daughter's season ticket or an adult friend sometimes upgrades it so hopefully it will help lead to a few new City fans.

as above its not a go at everyone,we all got situations,but a guy on here cant get seats in the family stand,yet i sit behind the goal and seats around me,3 in particular have never been sat in,and this is not something new,its been brought to the attention of CCS by carl.the 3 seats infront of me have never been sat in since stadium opened fact.

It's a good talking point but there's always seats available to buy in the family stand if you reserve them early enough. As Gwyn says, if and when we start selling games out, then the club will do something. The sell back idea seems a no brainer to me. Obviously I don't agree with people buying children's season tickets and never using the seats but you can only have one if you've bought an adult season ticket so there's money going into the club somewhere.

i think the person im on abouy is gareth from wiltshire,who at times cannot get tickets in the family stand,yet as stated seats by me have yet to be sat in and this is season 3.by the way i sit in o64,my gripe is with seats that have not seen a bum all season and beyond will suddenly find a buyer for said final tickets...i have the utmost respect for people who genuinely have purchased season tickets for children that cannot attend often,but some people i feel have realised that it is a cheap way of reserving seats for big games.

me and my grandson have not missed a game this year and most of the seats around us have the same bums on them every week.why are you moaning,these young lads are the future of this club,we all had the oppertunity to buy season tickets perhaps you should have taken up the clubs offer of 5 months interest free offer and commited to the club like we did then you to would be able to see the final.i will be missing the last 3 home games of the season this year but i wont be moanig or asking for a refund or selling my tickets i will lump it like you should now .you had youre chance and still have buy one for next season

Bottom line is if they have a season ticket, regardless of how many times they use it then they are entitled to a wembley ticket.. I didnt get a season ticket this year for the first time in 8 due to work and am not an away member, highly likely i wont get a sniff of a wembley ticket but who cares

me and my grandson have not missed a game this year and most of the seats around us have the same bums on them every week.why are you moaning,these young lads are the future of this club,we all had the oppertunity to buy season tickets perhaps you should have taken up the clubs offer of 5 months interest free offer and commited to the club like we did then you to would be able to see the final.i will be missing the last 3 home games of the season this year but i wont be moanig or asking for a refund or selling my tickets i will lump it like you should now .you had youre chance and still have buy one for next season

i am a season ticket holder,please read post carefully before replying with such drivel,i am not talking about tickets for me.

my son is 3 years old. I used to take him only to day games. Now he goes to every game. he cries if I try to go without him. he knows two chants fully cardiff city fc one and pick and shovel. sings his heart out, I tell you what he could put a few fans too shame. Then my step daughter. 10. never misses a game . plays for two teams and for school. again a real fan. These are the future for our club. Around me I see same people every week. Yes we went to cup games, all 3 of us. And no I am not rich, im skint as I work for a living in low paid job in public sector, I go without to get our tickets, and its worth it too