" FAO Those wanting Blues out. "

Fear not, it'll happen eventually.

Year ending May 2010, Blues accounts make interesting reading. Loss of about 750k from what I can tell, total debt now just over 5m.

Utterly skint, losing STs year after after as people boycotting/not renewing.

Can't afford to buy their way out of the contract so expect them to go under at some point in the short/medium term.

Great news Good riddance to the egg-chasers. Let's get back to being a football satdium

I def want them out and I reckon they will go under eventually and I dont mean in 10 years time.

Fear not, it'll happen eventually.

Year ending May 2010, Blues accounts make interesting reading. Loss of about 750k from what I can tell, total debt now just over 5m.

Utterly skint, losing STs year after after as people boycotting/not renewing.

Can't afford to buy their way out of the contract so expect them to go under at some point in the short/medium term.

In my opinion Nerd it maybe another couple of seasons yet but I think they will end up 'moving out'.

2-3 years maximum and the stadium will only be ours.

They're just a bit of an irritant really. Attendances show what an irrelevant minority 'sport' the egg is.

Fear not, it'll happen eventually.

Year ending May 2010, Blues accounts make interesting reading. Loss of about 750k from what I can tell, total debt now just over 5m.

Utterly skint, losing STs year after after as people boycotting/not renewing.

Can't afford to buy their way out of the contract so expect them to go under at some point in the short/medium term.

In my opinion Nerd it maybe another couple of seasons yet but I think they will end up 'moving out'.

2-3 years maximum and the stadium will only be ours.

Bound into contract now, both parties would need to agree to a contract termination. We've no real benefit in doing so.

Losing money hand over fist - and rumoured the maintenance costs will rise quite a bit higher this coming year - they won't be moving out. They'll be in liquidation.

I read something on here that they have hired a guy to "make it work at the CCS".

Id love nothing more than them gone but financially not the best news.

Carl what do they pay us? I know the fee is reported to be 6 figures but isnt it also 40% of the overheads?

they could always play up 'the duff' in Bargoed………….

I read something on here that they have hired a guy to "make it work at the CCS".

Id love nothing more than them gone but financially not the best news.

Carl what do they pay us? I know the fee is reported to be 6 figures but isnt it also 40% of the overheads?

For 09/10, figures were :-

350k rent to us.
97k rent for CAP
135k rent for Hensol training facility.
Contribution us for maintenance capped at 150k a season.

Although some rumours from the egg side are that the maintenace will be increasing this season.

So, 500k for year 09/10.

i want them out, but i dont want them to go under, they are a welsh team from cardiff and although i don't like rugby i appreciate that people do and it would be a shame for that to happen
very happy it they went to the arms park mind

i want them out, but i dont want them to go under, they are a welsh team from cardiff and although i don't like rugby i appreciate that people do and it would be a shame for that to happen
very happy it they went to the arms park mind

And how would they do that without us releasing them from the contract? Are Tan et al mugs or would they enforce the contract to get as much as they can before the inevitable?

TheLooneGunman on the other board reckons 5 years, and that there are clauses etc with regards the Blues having an easy escape from the CCS. And that it doesn't benefit us that much, financially.

i want them out, but i dont want them to go under, they are a welsh team from cardiff and although i don't like rugby i appreciate that people do and it would be a shame for that to happen
very happy it they went to the arms park mind

And how would they do that without us releasing them from the contract? Are Tan et al mugs or would they enforce the contract to get as much as they can before the inevitable?

See above.

I read something on here that they have hired a guy to "make it work at the CCS".

Id love nothing more than them gone but financially not the best news.

Carl what do they pay us? I know the fee is reported to be 6 figures but isnt it also 40% of the overheads?

For 09/10, figures were :-

350k rent to us.
97k rent for CAP
135k rent for Hensol training facility.
Contribution us for maintenance capped at 150k a season.

Although some rumours from the egg side are that the maintenace will be increasing this season.

So, 500k for year 09/10.

Thanks for that, 500k is less than I thought but still a sizeable amount.
I suppose its the down payment on someone like Turner.

Speculative but would people rather
Ben Turner and Blues at CCS
NO Ben Turner but no Blues at CCS

I wonder if they had to contribute to the lights for the grass

nice to see everyone supporting and encouraging one of our fellow sports teams we are very grateful to take their rent its not as if we have events people falling over themselves to use our facility.

i want them out, but i dont want them to go under, they are a welsh team from cardiff and although i don't like rugby i appreciate that people do and it would be a shame for that to happen
very happy it they went to the arms park mind

And how would they do that without us releasing them from the contract? Are Tan et al mugs or would they enforce the contract to get as much as they can before the inevitable?

i have no idea and i have no interest in rugby
but that wasnt the point i was making
i dont want to see a local professional sports team go under

TheLooneGunman on the other board reckons 5 years, and that there are clauses etc with regards the Blues having an easy escape from the CCS. And that it doesn't benefit us that much, financially.

"Easy escape"?

Losses mounting up. Reduced ticket income. Better corporate facilities than CAP, sure, but with higher costs. Season ticket numbers reducing.

No money to invest in squad, performances declining, attendances dropping.

Loans from Peter Thomas, secured againsdt 1% of *dwindling* ticket rights have so far generated 392k of interest,

Don't you think if there was an "easy escape" they;d have actively explored it within the last year knowing their financial status?

nice to see everyone supporting and encouraging one of our fellow sports teams we are very grateful to take their rent its not as if we have events people falling over themselves to use our facility.

All this "egg" hating is ridiculous and pathetic....I've not once found a single rugby fan who feels the same hatred toward football as some football fans feel about rugby!! Why can't people just like both sports, it's not one versus the other FFS!!!!

Anyway, I'll be glad if the blues leave CCS, not to keep the "egg" haters happy, but for the blues' future and their fans and their atmosphere's benefit, even though I'm a Scarlet (Bluebird first though). Blues are not currently big enough for the CCS

i want them out, but i dont want them to go under, they are a welsh team from cardiff and although i don't like rugby i appreciate that people do and it would be a shame for that to happen
very happy it they went to the arms park mind

And how would they do that without us releasing them from the contract? Are Tan et al mugs or would they enforce the contract to get as much as they can before the inevitable?

i have no idea and i have no interest in rugby
but that wasnt the point i was making
i dont want to see a local professional sports team go under

And when the Blues region was created, stripping the guts out of Cardiff RFC, shitting all over Ponty, what was the impact there?

Would people have the same concern if MK Dons went under?

TheLooneGunman on the other board reckons 5 years, and that there are clauses etc with regards the Blues having an easy escape from the CCS. And that it doesn't benefit us that much, financially.

"Easy escape"?

Losses mounting up. Reduced ticket income. Better corporate facilities than CAP, sure, but with higher costs. Season ticket numbers reducing.

No money to invest in squad, performances declining, attendances dropping.

Loans from Peter Thomas, secured againsdt 1% of *dwindling* ticket rights have so far generated 392k of interest,

Don't you think if there was an "easy escape" they;d have actively explored it within the last year knowing their financial status?

You will have to sign up and ask him Nerd, because as I said, his words and views; not mine.

TheLooneGunman on the other board reckons 5 years, and that there are clauses etc with regards the Blues having an easy escape from the CCS. And that it doesn't benefit us that much, financially.

"Easy escape"?

Losses mounting up. Reduced ticket income. Better corporate facilities than CAP, sure, but with higher costs. Season ticket numbers reducing.

No money to invest in squad, performances declining, attendances dropping.

Loans from Peter Thomas, secured againsdt 1% of *dwindling* ticket rights have so far generated 392k of interest,

Don't you think if there was an "easy escape" they;d have actively explored it within the last year knowing their financial status?

You will have to sign up and ask him Nerd, because as I said, his words and views; not mine.

Agreed. My point being that until you look at the financial documents filed, you realise just how bad the situation is with the Blues and how it isn't getting better over time. If they could get out easily with no cost, they would have.

i want them out, but i dont want them to go under, they are a welsh team from cardiff and although i don't like rugby i appreciate that people do and it would be a shame for that to happen
very happy it they went to the arms park mind

And how would they do that without us releasing them from the contract? Are Tan et al mugs or would they enforce the contract to get as much as they can before the inevitable?

i have no idea and i have no interest in rugby
but that wasnt the point i was making
i dont want to see a local professional sports team go under

And when the Blues region was created, stripping the guts out of Cardiff RFC, shitting all over Ponty, what was the impact there?

Would people have the same concern if MK Dons went under?

Blues didn't shit all over ponty, they've opened their doors to Ponty's fans with open arms (the same fans that support the capital in football). Ponty set up their own region with Bridgend , then the WRU shit all over them cause they wouldn't support a fifth region and chose the warriors to disband

Blues didn't shit all over ponty, they've opened their doors to Ponty's fans with open arms (the same fans that support the capital in football).

Football an irrelevance, Ponty playing at difference level to us.

If a South Wales FC was created, playing at Liberty, packed with Jacks and none of out players, you serious think Cardiff FC fans would embrace it? The Celtic Warriors idea was always nonsense.

Blues didn't shit all over ponty, they've opened their doors to Ponty's fans with open arms (the same fans that support the capital in football).

Football an irrelevance, Ponty playing at difference level to us.

If a South Wales FC was created, playing at Liberty, packed with Jacks and none of out players, you serious think Cardiff FC fans would embrace it? The Celtic Warriors idea was always nonsense.

I agree about the celtic warriors idea being nonsense, in fact i think regional rugby is nonsense......nobody can be arsed to watch the likes of connacht or treviso on a friday evening when the match is shown on the telly. Rugby has traditionally been about local derbies, that's what the Welsh public want to see, they want to see Cardiff v Newport, Llanelli v swansea or Neath, Pontypool v Pontypridd etc etc. Fans aren't prepared (or can afford) to travel to dublin, edinburgh, glasgow and italy week in week out, it's runined club rugby in this country. But the Blues have always fielded a strong Ponty and valleys contingent, Gethin Jenkins and Martin Willaims to name just two

Blues didn't shit all over ponty, they've opened their doors to Ponty's fans with open arms (the same fans that support the capital in football).

Football an irrelevance, Ponty playing at difference level to us.

If a South Wales FC was created, playing at Liberty, packed with Jacks and none of out players, you serious think Cardiff FC fans would embrace it? The Celtic Warriors idea was always nonsense.

I agree about the celtic warriors idea being nonsense, in fact i think regional rugby is nonsense......nobody can be arsed to watch the likes of connacht or treviso on a friday evening when the match is shown on the telly. Rugby has traditionally been about local derbies, that's what the Welsh public want to see, they want to see Cardiff v Newport, Llanelli v swansea or Neath, Pontypool v Pontypridd etc etc. Fans aren't prepared (or can afford) to travel to dublin, edinburgh, glasgow and italy week in week out, it's runined club rugby in this country. But the Blues have always fielded a strong Ponty and valleys contingent, Gethin Jenkins and Martin Willaims to name just two

Players went where the money weas. Inevitable, with regions. The Ponty fans however didn't go with. Never going to have happened.

All irrelevant really; basically Blues are skint. Be amazed if they aren't liquidated within 5 years the rate they are going.

i want them out, but i dont want them to go under, they are a welsh team from cardiff and although i don't like rugby i appreciate that people do and it would be a shame for that to happen
very happy it they went to the arms park mind

And how would they do that without us releasing them from the contract? Are Tan et al mugs or would they enforce the contract to get as much as they can before the inevitable?

i have no idea and i have no interest in rugby
but that wasnt the point i was making
i dont want to see a local professional sports team go under

And when the Blues region was created, stripping the guts out of Cardiff RFC, shitting all over Ponty, what was the impact there?

Would people have the same concern if MK Dons went under?

look mate i have no idea what you are on about i dont even know anything about the welsh team never mind f*cking ponty (pool?pridd?) so dont even bother trying to argue with me about it. also know i dont give a toss about mk dons as i dont live near milton keynes. i simply stated i would rather them out for the sake of our pitch but dont want them to fold because they are a local pro team. as i wouldnt want newport county newport dragons or newport rugby to fold. not because i care about them, but purely because they have a loyal following of people who live around here and they represent wales
i have nothing more to say, apart from rugby is shit

Blues didn't shit all over ponty, they've opened their doors to Ponty's fans with open arms (the same fans that support the capital in football).

Football an irrelevance, Ponty playing at difference level to us.

If a South Wales FC was created, playing at Liberty, packed with Jacks and none of out players, you serious think Cardiff FC fans would embrace it? The Celtic Warriors idea was always nonsense.

I agree about the celtic warriors idea being nonsense, in fact i think regional rugby is nonsense......nobody can be arsed to watch the likes of connacht or treviso on a friday evening when the match is shown on the telly. Rugby has traditionally been about local derbies, that's what the Welsh public want to see, they want to see Cardiff v Newport, Llanelli v swansea or Neath, Pontypool v Pontypridd etc etc. Fans aren't prepared (or can afford) to travel to dublin, edinburgh, glasgow and italy week in week out, it's runined club rugby in this country. But the Blues have always fielded a strong Ponty and valleys contingent, Gethin Jenkins and Martin Willaims to name just two

Players went where the money weas. Inevitable, with regions. The Ponty fans however didn't go with. Never going to have happened.

All irrelevant really; basically Blues are skint. Be amazed if they aren't liquidated within 5 years the rate they are going.

Regional rugby won't last it's not sustainable. We'll be back to good old club rugby in a few years, which will be great for the club game as supporters will return in droves, the only thing is the international game will suffer as talent will be diluted through more teams. But i'd rather suffer at international level, to get club rugby back and my beloved Llanelli RFC back in the top flight of Welsh rugby. Nobody gives a shit about regional rugby

Whilst we are on the subject of change, once they do 'vacate the building' can we change the stadium name from Cardiff City Stadium to Sloper Road or something along those line. I can understand it being called the CCS because it is a multi sporting venue for two clubs of Cardiff, but id love it to change. I know the likelyhood of this is 0% and its pretty much pointless in even asking, but I just felt like it. . When/if it changes it'll be called the 'wok to walk arena' or something anyway....and I welcome extra revenue for the sake of name rights.

Whilst we are on the subject of change, once they do 'vacate the building' can we change the stadium name from Cardiff City Stadium to Sloper Road or something along those line. I can understand it being called the CCS because it is a multi sporting venue for two clubs of Cardiff, but id love it to change. I know the likelyhood of this is 0% and its pretty much pointless in even asking, but I just felt like it. . When/if it changes it'll be called the 'wok to walk arena' or something anyway....and I welcome extra revenue for the sake of name rights.

It's called Cardif City Stadium for, errm, Cardiff City. Nothing to do with the blues. That's why rugby commentators for years have tried to get away with calling it "City of Cardiff" Stadium.

Don't want the Blues to go under because i appreciate the people who watch them and have been watching them for years, I just want them to move out of the CCS and back to arms park.