Ramsey comments

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -30108721/

What does everyone think?
As the FAW say poorly advised? or is he just being a strong captain?

of course the faw members would have a lot better idea than the players who would make a good coach

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/football-news/2012/01/12/aaron-ramsey-launches-strong-twitter-defence-of-faw-criticism-over-gary-speed-successor-91466-30108721/

What does everyone think?
As the FAW say poorly advised? or is he just being a strong captain?

I'm old fashioned and think that players should concentrate on being players and not make public statements about how the FAW operate.

If Aaron has a view then as current team captain I'm sure he could have called the CEO of the FAW and gave his views, including the opinions of other players, but I think talking to the media is inappropriate.

But as I say I'm probably old fashioned in this respect.

He was asked the question so answered it honestly and then backed up his comments on twitter.

I personally agree with him, considering the circumstances and the age of a lot of our players I think it would have been wise for them to speak to the captain and some of the senior players.

of course the faw members would have a lot better idea than the players who would make a good coach

Think about what you are saying here and remember we have had Blobby Gould and Mike Smith as manager of Wales in the last 20 years. Look how well that panned out.

I have complete faith that the FAW will completely f**k up the next appointment, they should be talking to the players.

give dave jones the post.

i am behind ramsey all the way. the faw prove to be old fashioned, ill-equipped and useless time and time again. all he did was answer a question honestly, if anything i thought the faw coming out and responding to the comment and essentially slagging him off is a lot lot worse and way unprofessional. good on him standing up for himself, the team and his country. more than our bloody board do. its funny how the entire team and set up, media and former welsh players etc all think they should carry on as it is for costa rica, yet the faw dont? when will they learn. im also positive they wont listen to it (especially after this 'row') and appoint someone and f**k it all up again. the support, crowd, players and feel good factor will disappear once more before we even begin. but i f*cking hope not!

I think the point here is that the FAW have a very important decision to make, and we should remember that the same people who appointed Gary Speed will decide on the next manager. How many would argue that these FAW Council got the Gary Spped appointment wrong? not many I think.

I accept that Aaron was asked the question by a member of the media who in my opinion was looking for a story and Aaron gave him just that. When I listened to the interview Aaron was also asked about the FAW approaching Man Utd about Ryan Giggs and he was fine about that, but he was also just a little coy about Ian Rush.

Aaron was in a no win situation here because whilst he did say he would like to be asked his opinion by the FAW he also spoke about how happy the squad had been lately, about how good it was to see so many players reporting with the squad and the general good vibes around the squad. None of that was reported only his views about the FAW speaking to him and the players before appointing the new manager, he then went on the defensive on his twitter account.

Aaron had no problem with Ryan Giggs and lets face it the FAW have approached Man Utd about talking to him about a part time role. I think now is the time for Ryan he is the right man for the job, for the players and for our country.

This whole thing is a bit of a non story built up to be something by the gutter media, Aaron should learn to be more considered in what he says to them.

Just my opinion.

He was asked the question so answered it honestly and then backed up his comments on twitter.

I personally agree with him, considering the circumstances and the age of a lot of our players I think it would have been wise for them to speak to the captain and some of the senior players.

Totally agree with him.

Unusually rare circumstances.

The FAW are a mickey mouse outfit.

I don't think Coleman is positive enough to take a young team forward. With the exception of Speed the FAW have an awfull reputatuion for appointing the wrong man!

If Coleman is appointed then the backroom staff should not be changed

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/football-news/2012/01/12/aaron-ramsey-launches-strong-twitter-defence-of-faw-criticism-over-gary-speed-successor-91466-30108721/

What does everyone think?
As the FAW say poorly advised? or is he just being a strong captain?

I'm old fashioned and think that players should concentrate on being players and not make public statements about how the FAW operate.

If Aaron has a view then as current team captain I'm sure he could have called the CEO of the FAW and gave his views, including the opinions of other players, but I think talking to the media is inappropriate.

But as I say I'm probably old fashioned in this respect.

No, you're spot on castleblue. I would not expect to be consulted on the appointment of my new boss in work! Some footballers these days are getting too big for their boots!

Its not as if Football is the same as a "Normal" job though is it?

And I wouldnt even say appointing a manager at a club is the same as Internationally either. Most the players who play for Wales dont need to do for financial reasons. Its therefore vital that internationally we make the set up a place where the players want to be and want to play for. Under previous regimes that has not been the case and players will pull out.

Im certainly not saying Ramsey, Bale or Bellamy or whoever should chose the next boss that would be silly but it wouldnt take much for the FAW to phone a few players, gage opinions and use those opinions to make a more informed decision especially considering the circumstances.

a few of you are missing the point that he given the circumstances etc its not a normal role replacement and i agree with rambo totally.

If we're after a welshman we either have somebody with little or no experience or Chris Coleman by the looks of it. You have to bear in mind that the average age of the FAW is 179 and we can't afford any top names.

No, you're spot on castleblue. I would not expect to be consulted on the appointment of my new boss in work! Some footballers these days are getting too big for their boots!

Totally agree with this. Footballers should stick top concentrating on playing and training and doing as they are told. Overpaid as it is and now they want a say in everything.

No, you're spot on castleblue. I would not expect to be consulted on the appointment of my new boss in work! Some footballers these days are getting too big for their boots!

Totally agree with this. Footballers should stick top concentrating on playing and training and doing as they are told. Overpaid as it is and now they want a say in everything.

But he isnt asking for a say, he is stating his surprise that some players weren't spoke to about a new appointment considering the sensitivity of the matter. He isnt asking to pick just be consulted considering the form and the circumstances I think its fair comment.

Like I said above these key players dont play for wales for the money so if its not enjoyable they will just stop playing.

No, you're spot on castleblue. I would not expect to be consulted on the appointment of my new boss in work! Some footballers these days are getting too big for their boots!

Totally agree with this. Footballers should stick top concentrating on playing and training and doing as they are told. Overpaid as it is and now they want a say in everything.

But he isnt asking for a say, he is stating his surprise that some players weren't spoke to about a new appointment considering the sensitivity of the matter. He isnt asking to pick just be consulted considering the form and the circumstances I think its fair comment.

Like I said above these key players dont play for wales for the money so if its not enjoyable they will just stop playing.

I see your point but I agree with ptb that they should stick to their job of playing football and let the management do theirs. Player's should want to play for their contry though no matter what, that's why I'm not keen on Giggs getting the job.

They should want to play for Wales no matter hat but in reality a lot of them are not welsh, its a good time to have a break from the weekly club games. Nowadays its more a case of doing it because you enjoy it and want to succeed. If players are dreading turning up for internationals we will soon be going backwards at a fast pace.

They should want to play for Wales no matter hat but in reality a lot of them are not welsh, its a good time to have a break from the weekly club games. Nowadays its more a case of doing it because you enjoy it and want to succeed. If players are dreading turning up for internationals we will soon be going backwards at a fast pace.

Plus its not their job to play for wales as some are saying.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... tment.html

He is wrong in doing it this way, but he is also right in what he is saying. And i believe he is saying it because he feels strongly about Wales, and believes with the system they have set up they can make a real impact. If Coleman comes in and then brings his own coaching system them oh dear we is fucked. But you never know he might just carry on what Speed started

We are wales, not world beaters
we need to take a gamble (like gary speed had) and play dangerous we can't just resource to boring football because we have less quality. unless we want to be **** for the next 10 years
why can't they see this??? in the manager selection

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -30113018/

Dutch Ray has his say, seems he hasnt been consulted either.