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Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:04 am

Midfield general wrote:With more and more foerign owners will there ever be another long serving manager like Alex Ferguson or in our case Dave Jones again as they all seem to be trigger happy when results don;t go their way.

As i said in an earlier post,there's no loyalty because there's too much money in the game

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:05 am

I wouldn't say ours were trigger happy, to me they made the right decision at the right time.

Fernandes is a joke, media junky who loves the limelight, only bought qpr because he couldn't afford west ham.
They will stay up and over spend for 2-3 years before a massive decent.

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:13 am

Midfield general wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I wouldn't say ours were trigger happy, to me they made the right decision at the right time.

Fernandes is a joke, media junky who loves the limelight, only bought qpr because he couldn't afford west ham.
They will stay up and over spend for 2-3 years before a massive decent.


Ok whilst I agree with you they weren't tigger happy I would say that they didn't go about the sacking of DJ in the correct manner.

You've mentioned about Fernandes being a joke and a media junky but surely he's just doing what others on the board are saying about our Malaysians and that is using the club for the benefit of their other businesses..?


Why about DJ?
From what I understand they asked DJ what it took to get us up and they disagrees and dispensed with his services. I'm a DJ fan but it was time to go.

I'm on about Fernandes the person who wouldn't be more opposite than Tan if he tried.

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:19 am

MG on his anti malaysian bandwagon again. :roll:

I dont think ive ever seen VT give an interview unlike fernandes who is a media whore.

It was time for dj to go.

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:19 am

Midfield general wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I wouldn't say ours were trigger happy, to me they made the right decision at the right time.

Fernandes is a joke, media junky who loves the limelight, only bought qpr because he couldn't afford west ham.
They will stay up and over spend for 2-3 years before a massive decent.


Ok whilst I agree with you they weren't tigger happy I would say that they didn't go about the sacking of DJ in the correct manner.

You've mentioned about Fernandes being a joke and a media junky but surely he's just doing what others on the board are saying about our Malaysians and that is using the club for the benefit of their other businesses..?


Why about DJ?
From what I understand they asked DJ what it took to get us up and they disagrees and dispensed with his services. I'm a DJ fan but it was time to go.

I'm on about Fernandes the person who wouldn't be more opposite than Tan if he tried.


I agree it was time for him to go but that 2 week period after the Reading game was just bizarre and DJ has stated that they tried to get promotion last season 'on the cheap'. Personally he should have been sacked the following morning not wait so long to take the action required. Then there was a further few weeks before they appointed MM which makes it even more incredible of how far he has taken us with so limited time.


Best things come to those who wait

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:26 am

Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:MG on his anti malaysian bandwagon again. :roll:

I dont think ive ever seen VT give an interview unlike fernandes who is a media whore.

It was time for dj to go.


Anti-foreign owners full stop. They are wrecking the game in my opinion and Ive agreed that it was time for DJ to go just should have done it far quicker than what they did and allowed the new man (MM) even more time before the season started.

The days of british boardrooms are gone. get over it.

MM was on holiday before he even started you clown. that 2 weeks made not a jot of difference.

You might as well start a thread 'VT hasnt got a clue' cos using fernandes was just a thinly veiled attack on our owners.

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:27 am

Ideally it would have been earlier but on the flip side imagine the mess we could be in now if we had a Me Shearer or whoever

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:28 am

2blue2handle wrote:Ideally it would have been earlier but on the flip side imagine the mess we could be in now if we had a Me Shearer or whoever

Shudder

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:29 am

I meant mr shearer as obviously me would be awesome 8-) :lol:

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:32 am

Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Ideally it would have been earlier but on the flip side imagine the mess we could be in now if we had a Me Shearer or whoever

Shudder


Yes and the respect has to go to Gethin Jones and Alan Whiteley for sticking by their first choice decision as the Malaysians wanted Shearer.


We have never seen any evidence of that and it's not what Gethin Jenkins said (who u praised above)

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:33 am

In all fairness MG,we could go up this year and you would still ctiticise our owners

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:34 am

I think taking a little time to get the right man has bared fruit has it not?

You dont just sack someone and give the job to the first candidate. :roll:
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Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:35 am

boxerbob wrote:In all fairness MG,we could go up this year and you would still ctiticise our owners

FACT

Dayas puppet

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 am

polo wrote:
boxerbob wrote:In all fairness MG,we could go up this year and you would still ctiticise our owners

FACT

Dayas puppet

lol i thought you 2 was friends

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:39 am

Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:I think taking a little time to get the right man has bared fruit has it not?

You dont just sack someone and give the job to the furst candidate. :roll:


Well they give him 12 months notice before last season started!!!



Uh? If they did that why we still paying him now? He was only on a 12 month rolling contract :shock:

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:39 am

Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:I think taking a little time to get the right man has bared fruit has it not?

You dont just sack someone and give the job to the furst candidate. :roll:


Well they give him 12 months notice before last season started!!!

Yes im sure nil nil going into the reading home game their immediate thoughts were interviewing candudates for jones job. :roll:

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:41 am

boxerbob wrote:
polo wrote:
boxerbob wrote:In all fairness MG,we could go up this year and you would still ctiticise our owners

FACT

Dayas puppet

lol i thought you 2 was friends

Hes just some lunatic i know. Sadly.

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:44 am

Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:I think taking a little time to get the right man has bared fruit has it not?

You dont just sack someone and give the job to the furst candidate. :roll:


Well they give him 12 months notice before last season started!!!

Yes im sure nil nil going into the reading home game their immediate thoughts were interviewing candudates for jones job. :roll:


They interviewed O'Niell for the job over in Malaysia during the middle of last season.

Was there there actually any truth in that?

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:44 am

Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:I think taking a little time to get the right man has bared fruit has it not?

You dont just sack someone and give the job to the furst candidate. :roll:


Well they give him 12 months notice before last season started!!!

Yes im sure nil nil going into the reading home game their immediate thoughts were interviewing candudates for jones job. :roll:


They interviewed O'Niell for the job over in Malaysia during the middle of last season.

Whats that got to do with anything?

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:46 am

Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
polo wrote:I think taking a little time to get the right man has bared fruit has it not?

You dont just sack someone and give the job to the furst candidate. :roll:


Well they give him 12 months notice before last season started!!!

Yes im sure nil nil going into the reading home game their immediate thoughts were interviewing candudates for jones job. :roll:


They interviewed O'Niell for the job over in Malaysia during the middle of last season.

Was there there actually any truth in that?


Well even if I said yes would you believe me..?

i thought it was just hear say

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:53 am

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boxerbob wrote:i thought it was just hear say


Pure and simple

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:54 am

Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:i thought it was just hear say


Like many others things on this forum unfortunately.

I just cant you see why you need to slate vincent tan so often,at least we aint got baliffs at our door anymore

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:01 am

Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:i thought it was just hear say


Like many others things on this forum unfortunately.

I just cant you see why you need to slate vincent tan so often,at least we aint got baliffs at our door anymore


Ive just mentioned foerign owners as a whole, it was others who tried to challange me on Tan and all I am saying is that the way the club dealt with the sacking of DJ wasn't the best. Whether it was time for DJ to go or not has completely nothing to do with it.

Just maybe,that most of your posts have something to do with vincent tan.I dont think you've ever said anything decent about him.

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:12 am

He's malaysian for a start,of course his empire his mainly in asia.He took a risk with cardiff city and i for one is glad.There wasn't people queuing up to take us over.As a city fan,you should see what unfolds before putting the man down.

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:12 am

Ive praised his business dealings but unfortunately most of them are based in Asia so it seems that he is using the club to help attract business to Asia rather than the UK.


I semi agree with that but then again why wouldn't he?
If I invested in a malasyian football team I'd certainly look to use my uk business (If I had one), wouldn't you?

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:05 am

Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:i thought it was just hear say


Like many others things on this forum unfortunately.

I just cant you see why you need to slate vincent tan so often,at least we aint got baliffs at our door anymore


Ive just mentioned foerign owners as a whole, it was others who tried to challange me on Tan and all I am saying is that the way the club dealt with the sacking of DJ wasn't the best. Whether it was time for DJ to go or not has completely nothing to do with it.


TRIED to challenge you on Tan??? all people are asking for is some form of proof
as to why they are 'chancers' and are using Cardiff City

You have an agenda re: our owners. God alone knows who put the idea in your head.

Its been a week since Carls update, the one where HIS sources underlined to him just
how much they are backing the Club and the Manager. Still no comment from you on it.
Had Carls update been a negative one, you'd have been all over it like a rash "i told
you so" etc etc etc... Whoever is pulling your strings has a bitterness about Cardiff City
and certainly no love, and your buying everything they tell you.

You have slated Vincent Tan for many months so can i ask a question...

PLEASE GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE HE HAS LIED, MADE FALSE PROMISES, LET
CARDIFF CITY DOWN OR DONE SOMETHING THAT POINTS TO HIM "DOING A RUNNER"

If your going to quote 'Dispatches' yet again... please put up a transcript, or video
of the bits where Tan was in that programme. See, to anyone else watching that, he
said and did...erm... f**k ALL wrong. Except for being seen in the company of someone
dodgy.

I'll repeat myself here, but sod it...

A few weeks back, a vicious unfounded rumour hit the internet about Cardiff City FC
disrespecting someone. You were on here like a flash calling the Club a disgrace.
Basically, you heard something negative about this great Club and believed it straight
away, you did not wait, you did not give City the benefit of the doubt, you jumped
on the Club and shat on it. What kind of supporter does that??... The particular issue
was something Cardiff City have a long proud history of doing the right thing on.
Yet you preferred to take an internet rumour as gospel. Because it showed Cardiff in
a bad light.

Cardiff City supporter my arse

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:07 am

Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:i thought it was just hear say


Like many others things on this forum unfortunately.

I just cant you see why you need to slate vincent tan so often,at least we aint got baliffs at our door anymore


Ive just mentioned foerign owners as a whole, it was others who tried to challange me on Tan and all I am saying is that the way the club dealt with the sacking of DJ wasn't the best. Whether it was time for DJ to go or not has completely nothing to do with it.


Dave Jones was an expensive man to get rid of. PERHAPS they were exploring all
avenues, taking their time and also sounding out replacements. Lets face it, if they
had sacked him the same day, you'd have taken the opposite stance and called them
ruthless cheeky foreign fuckers

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:28 am

Midfield general wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I wouldn't say ours were trigger happy, to me they made the right decision at the right time.

Fernandes is a joke, media junky who loves the limelight, only bought qpr because he couldn't afford west ham.
They will stay up and over spend for 2-3 years before a massive decent.


Ok whilst I agree with you they weren't tigger happy I would say that they didn't go about the sacking of DJ in the correct manner.

You've mentioned about Fernandes being a joke and a media junky but surely he's just doing what others on the board are saying about our Malaysians and that is using the club for the benefit of their other businesses..?


Why about DJ?
From what I understand they asked DJ what it took to get us up and they disagrees and dispensed with his services. I'm a DJ fan but it was time to go.
I'm on about Fernandes the person who wouldn't be more opposite than Tan if he tried.


I agree it was time for him to go but that 2 week period after the Reading game was just bizarre and DJ has stated that they tried to get promotion last season 'on the cheap'. Personally he should have been sacked the following morning not wait so long to take the action required. Then there was a further few weeks before they appointed MM which makes it even more incredible of how far he has taken us with so limited time.



there was nothing bizzare about it adam because inthat period they conducted a review of where things went wrong including interviewing some of the senior players and craig bellamy.
the majority of players as i understand were pretty scathing regarding the way jones conducted training, tactics etc and craig expressed concerns regarding the amount of time players were given off in between games and especially the boro game.
in a nutshell the consensus was that we had a virtual premiership set up with regards to facilities etc but a vauxhall conference set up to how we approached games.
so the fortnight was intended to make a decision as to if jones would be able to take us over the line this season and the overwhelming evidence was that he could not achieve that goal.

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:44 am

Midfield general wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
boxerbob wrote:i thought it was just hear say


Like many others things on this forum unfortunately.

I just cant you see why you need to slate vincent tan so often,at least we aint got baliffs at our door anymore


Ive just mentioned foerign owners as a whole, it was others who tried to challange me on Tan and all I am saying is that the way the club dealt with the sacking of DJ wasn't the best. Whether it was time for DJ to go or not has completely nothing to do with it.


TRIED to challenge you on Tan??? all people are asking for is some form of proof
as to why they are 'chancers' and are using Cardiff City

You have an agenda re: our owners. God alone knows who put the idea in your head.

Its been a week since Carls update, the one where HIS sources underlined to him just
how much they are backing the Club and the Manager. Still no comment from you on it.
Had Carls update been a negative one, you'd have been all over it like a rash "i told
you so" etc etc etc... Whoever is pulling your strings has a bitterness about Cardiff City
and certainly no love, and your buying everything they tell you.

You have slated Vincent Tan for many months so can i ask a question...

PLEASE GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE HE HAS LIED, MADE FALSE PROMISES, LET
CARDIFF CITY DOWN OR DONE SOMETHING THAT POINTS TO HIM "DOING A RUNNER"

If your going to quote 'Dispatches' yet again... please put up a transcript, or video
of the bits where Tan was in that programme. See, to anyone else watching that, he
said and did...erm... f**k ALL wrong. Except for being seen in the company of someone
dodgy.

I'll repeat myself here, but sod it...

A few weeks back, a vicious unfounded rumour hit the internet about Cardiff City FC
disrespecting someone. You were on here like a flash calling the Club a disgrace.
Basically, you heard something negative about this great Club and believed it straight
away, you did not wait, you did not give City the benefit of the doubt, you jumped
on the Club and shat on it. What kind of supporter does that??... The particular issue
was something Cardiff City have a long proud history of doing the right thing on.
Yet you preferred to take an internet rumour as gospel. Because it showed Cardiff in
a bad light.

Cardiff City supporter my arse[/quote]

Sorry TaffyPlastic remind me one again 'when was the last time you actually watched CCFC..?' and Im not talking about on the TV!!!! More of a supporter you will ever be ;)


Reading Away. Doncaster away saturday too if i havent flown out..

There's my answer.

And if you've been watching Cardiff City regularly since before 1981 then your
a better supporter than me. But your Merthyr I believe?

Now explain why Tan is a chancer, not to be trusted, and why you always
think the worst of Cardiff City

Re: Is Fernandez just another foerign owner who hasn't a clue..?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:09 am

You got to laugh he starts the thread off complaining foreign owners are too trigger happy, and then moans the malaysians didnt pull the trigger quick enough on Jones :lol:

You can always rely on politicians to trip themselves up with their double standards :lol:

Going back to the o neill point, which even if true, would have been explored wen we were going through a sticky patch.

It is totally irrelevant to sacking jones the day after the reading game because do you seriously
think it is the main priority of any club in the play offs to have someone lined up to replace the current manager?