" I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:05 pm
Seen as there is hardly any trouble anymore.
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Football-related disorder arrests 'at record low'
Arrests for football-related disorder in England and Wales are at a record low, the Home Office has said.
" Just over 3,000 people were arrested at games involving English and Welsh teams last year, a drop of 9%. "
The Home Office says the latest figures are a major success story with progress being made at both international and domestic levels of football.
The number of people under football banning orders has also fallen, down to 3,173 from 3,248 last year.
During last season, 3,089 people were arrested, a drop of 302 compared with the 2009/10 season.
This is the lowest figure since records began in the 1984/5 season and equates to an average of one arrest per match.
There were no arrests at 70% of games in the 2010/11 season, and only one English fan was arrested at the World Cup, after he confronted members of the England team following a match in Cape Town.
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Over the past two decades the UK has made steady progress in reducing football-related violence and disorder”
Assistant Chief Constable Andy Holt
The Home Office said football banning orders continued to have "a positive effect" a decade after their introduction.
A spokesman said the success was also due to the "great strides" police had made in working with the football community and a change in attitude by fans themselves.
Since 2000 about 92% of people whose orders have expired are assessed by police as no longer posing a risk of football disorder.
'Small minority'
Crime Prevention Minister Lord Henley said: "Football policing is a real British success story. Where hooliganism was once described as 'the English disease', we now set an example for others to follow.
"But we are not complacent and we will expect to see England fans continue their good behaviour at next year's European Championships, where the eyes of the world will be on them once again."
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I feel far safer going to a football match than going near bars and clubs on a Saturday night”
Malcolm Clarke
Football Supporters' Federation
Assistant Chief Constable Andy Holt, who leads on football policing for the Association of Chief Police Officers, said: "Over the past two decades the UK has made steady progress in reducing football-related violence and disorder.
"The service has worked hard with football clubs and football supporters' associations to ensure that genuine fans can attend games without incident and it's reassuring that the figures reflect that a very small minority of fans have come to police notice."
Malcolm Clarke from the Football Supporters' Federation said credit had to be given to fans for the "continuing good trend".
"There's been a considerable change in ambience compared to what it used to be. I feel far safer going to a football match than going near bars and clubs on a Saturday night," he said.
The drop in violence cannot be attributed to one thing but it was partly because people had become aware of the damage it was doing to the sport, he added.
Chelsea fans represent 10% of all the banning orders in the Premier League with 105, compared to 101 against Manchester United fans and 98 against Newcastle United fans.
New laws
In the Championship, Cardiff City fans have 143 banning orders, the most of any club in England and Wales, followed by Leeds United with 106 and West Ham with 100.
League Two's Dagenham and Redbridge is the only group with no banning orders, the figures showed.
The number of those attending regulated matches in England and Wales reached 37 million last year, meaning those arrested represent less than 0.01% of that season's spectators.
The figures relate to the Premiership and football league in England, as well as a number of non-league competitions in England and Wales, European club matches and internationals.
In Scotland, 101 fans received banning orders in 2010. Earlier this month, new laws to tackle religious hatred and bigotry related to football were passed by the Scottish Parliament.
It means people could be jailed for up to five years for behaviour which could cause public disorder in and around matches.
Opinions
Football-related disorder arrests 'at record low'
Arrests for football-related disorder in England and Wales are at a record low, the Home Office has said.
" Just over 3,000 people were arrested at games involving English and Welsh teams last year, a drop of 9%. "
The Home Office says the latest figures are a major success story with progress being made at both international and domestic levels of football.
The number of people under football banning orders has also fallen, down to 3,173 from 3,248 last year.
During last season, 3,089 people were arrested, a drop of 302 compared with the 2009/10 season.
This is the lowest figure since records began in the 1984/5 season and equates to an average of one arrest per match.
There were no arrests at 70% of games in the 2010/11 season, and only one English fan was arrested at the World Cup, after he confronted members of the England team following a match in Cape Town.
Continue reading the main story
“
Start Quote
Over the past two decades the UK has made steady progress in reducing football-related violence and disorder”
Assistant Chief Constable Andy Holt
The Home Office said football banning orders continued to have "a positive effect" a decade after their introduction.
A spokesman said the success was also due to the "great strides" police had made in working with the football community and a change in attitude by fans themselves.
Since 2000 about 92% of people whose orders have expired are assessed by police as no longer posing a risk of football disorder.
'Small minority'
Crime Prevention Minister Lord Henley said: "Football policing is a real British success story. Where hooliganism was once described as 'the English disease', we now set an example for others to follow.
"But we are not complacent and we will expect to see England fans continue their good behaviour at next year's European Championships, where the eyes of the world will be on them once again."
Continue reading the main story
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Start Quote
I feel far safer going to a football match than going near bars and clubs on a Saturday night”
Malcolm Clarke
Football Supporters' Federation
Assistant Chief Constable Andy Holt, who leads on football policing for the Association of Chief Police Officers, said: "Over the past two decades the UK has made steady progress in reducing football-related violence and disorder.
"The service has worked hard with football clubs and football supporters' associations to ensure that genuine fans can attend games without incident and it's reassuring that the figures reflect that a very small minority of fans have come to police notice."
Malcolm Clarke from the Football Supporters' Federation said credit had to be given to fans for the "continuing good trend".
"There's been a considerable change in ambience compared to what it used to be. I feel far safer going to a football match than going near bars and clubs on a Saturday night," he said.
The drop in violence cannot be attributed to one thing but it was partly because people had become aware of the damage it was doing to the sport, he added.
Chelsea fans represent 10% of all the banning orders in the Premier League with 105, compared to 101 against Manchester United fans and 98 against Newcastle United fans.
New laws
In the Championship, Cardiff City fans have 143 banning orders, the most of any club in England and Wales, followed by Leeds United with 106 and West Ham with 100.
League Two's Dagenham and Redbridge is the only group with no banning orders, the figures showed.
The number of those attending regulated matches in England and Wales reached 37 million last year, meaning those arrested represent less than 0.01% of that season's spectators.
The figures relate to the Premiership and football league in England, as well as a number of non-league competitions in England and Wales, European club matches and internationals.
In Scotland, 101 fans received banning orders in 2010. Earlier this month, new laws to tackle religious hatred and bigotry related to football were passed by the Scottish Parliament.
It means people could be jailed for up to five years for behaviour which could cause public disorder in and around matches.
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:08 pm
And sentences don't reflect the crime 
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:08 pm
I don't think it's bad Annis, considering you being arrested and banned accounts for 2,784 of them!! 
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Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:11 pm
Blazing Saddles wrote:I don't think it's bad Annis, considering you being arrested and banned accounts for 2,784 of them!!
Saddles Merry Xmas to you, You've made my year with your jokes and being so positive all the time.
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:12 pm
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:And sentences don't reflect the crime
Garteh, Its funny that the Govt/Courts dish out sentences to how they want and are never consistence. In my opinion its more than corrupt incl the arrests.
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Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:21 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:And sentences don't reflect the crime
Garteh, Its funny that the Govt/Courts dish out sentences to how they want and are never consistence. In my opinion its more than corrupt incl the arrests.
There should be a standard punishment for crimes. If you get nicked for affray/public order a heavy fine is a fair sentence. If you are convicted again for a similar offence then a suspended sentence. Do it a 3rd time and a short custodial sentence. If i get into a scrap at the pub tonight i'd get a £60 fixed penalty notice. If I have a scrap at the CCS then I'm looking at custodial. Completely unjust.
Burglars should get an instant 6 month custodial. 2nd offence should be 3 years. 3rd offence 5 years etc.
If you throw a punch at an innocent person and kill them life in prison is a just sentence.
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:05 pm
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:19 pm
adz-a32 wrote:http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/crime/football-arrests-banning-orders/fbo-2010-11?view=Binary
Just reading the stats and Leeds had 149 arrests last season yet they have less banned than us.
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:21 pm
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:adz-a32 wrote:http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/crime/football-arrests-banning-orders/fbo-2010-11?view=Binary
Just reading the stats and Leeds had 149 arrests last season yet they have less banned than us.
Lemmie guess: anti-welsh.
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:23 pm
Thinking about it just because someone is arrested doesn't make them guilty so i suppose many get nicked but not that many get chargedadz-a32 wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:adz-a32 wrote:http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/crime/football-arrests-banning-orders/fbo-2010-11?view=Binary
Just reading the stats and Leeds had 149 arrests last season yet they have less banned than us.
Lemmie guess: anti-welsh.
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:23 pm
adz-a32 wrote:http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/crime/football-arrests-banning-orders/fbo-2010-11?view=Binary
It's funny how the higher leagues have more fans selling tickets.
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:30 pm
The team which lost to reading 0-3
S Bywater; D Blake, K McNaughton (capt), D Keinan, J Lloyd-Samuel; C Burke, S Olofinjana, J Emmanuel-Thomas, P Whittingham; M Chopa, J Bothroyd
They should have been arrested en bloc.
S Bywater; D Blake, K McNaughton (capt), D Keinan, J Lloyd-Samuel; C Burke, S Olofinjana, J Emmanuel-Thomas, P Whittingham; M Chopa, J Bothroyd
They should have been arrested en bloc.
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:46 pm
how many of them 3,000 of them arrests are for minor alchohol offences? a lot i should imagine.
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:47 pm
stickywicket wrote:The team which lost to reading 0-3
S Bywater; D Blake, K McNaughton (capt), D Keinan, J Lloyd-Samuel; C Burke, S Olofinjana, J Emmanuel-Thomas, P Whittingham; M Chopa, J Bothroyd
They should have been arrested en bloc.
agree
with Mr jones in solitary so he doesnt have to deal with fans,media other human beings etc
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:31 pm
englishbluebird wrote:stickywicket wrote:The team which lost to reading 0-3
S Bywater; D Blake, K McNaughton (capt), D Keinan, J Lloyd-Samuel; C Burke, S Olofinjana, J Emmanuel-Thomas, P Whittingham; M Chopa, J Bothroyd
They should have been arrested en bloc.
agree
Re: " I STILL THINK OVER 3,000 IS A HELL OF A LOT "
Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:55 pm
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:adz-a32 wrote:http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/crime/football-arrests-banning-orders/fbo-2010-11?view=Binary
Just reading the stats and Leeds had 149 arrests last season yet they have less banned than us.
Makes sense, they dont ban there trouble makers and it turn games have more arrrests.
3000 sounds a lot and is but we must remember the mass amount of people that go to football games, in turn its a very small percentage.