Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:24 am
Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:30 am
Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:35 am
steve wrote:it wasnt hudson yesterday taylor was very poor getting caught out of position all the time pushing on to much his defencive play yesterday was shit
Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:49 am
Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:50 am
Midfield general wrote:steve wrote:it wasnt hudson yesterday taylor was very poor getting caught out of position all the time pushing on to much his defencive play yesterday was shit
Fully agree with that point but I just think Taylor just had a bad game yesterday whereas it seems to be a constant problem with Hudson
Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:51 am
Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:00 pm
Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:14 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I have agree with MG on this. Whilst Hudson does perform well in parts and is a good Captain there is a lack of concentration when he is in the side. On 3 occasions this season we have conceeded 3 goals at home in a league match and Hudson has played in all of those games.
Yet when Gerrard was in the side we went on a run of clean sheets including one against Premiership Blackburn.
Whilst Taylor had a nightmare yesterday you have to ask if Hudson is up to the job when one of his colleagues goes missing?
Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:22 pm
Midfield general wrote:Lawnmower wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I have agree with MG on this. Whilst Hudson does perform well in parts and is a good Captain there is a lack of concentration when he is in the side. On 3 occasions this season we have conceeded 3 goals at home in a league match and Hudson has played in all of those games.
Yet when Gerrard was in the side we went on a run of clean sheets including one against Premiership Blackburn.
Whilst Taylor had a nightmare yesterday you have to ask if Hudson is up to the job when one of his colleagues goes missing?
in Hudson's last 7 appearances we've conceded 2 goals. Gerrard played in 3 others where we looked solid, but he actually had poor games in 2 of these. He's decent cover but seems to lose concentration at times and tries to do too much with the ball.
By the way, I wouldn't read too much into the Blackburn game, Blackburn were the worst side I've seen this season.
I was sat down discussing this with some other ex-centre halfs yesterday and just could not understand why there are still fans who don't rate him. Surely he can't be blamed for poor performances from Taylor and Turner ? He was our best defender yesterday by some way.
Hudson has been very lucky that the pace of Kev has helped cover his arse on many occasions.
Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:30 pm
Midfield general wrote:Lawnmower wrote:Midfield general wrote:Lawnmower wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I have agree with MG on this. Whilst Hudson does perform well in parts and is a good Captain there is a lack of concentration when he is in the side. On 3 occasions this season we have conceeded 3 goals at home in a league match and Hudson has played in all of those games.
Yet when Gerrard was in the side we went on a run of clean sheets including one against Premiership Blackburn.
Whilst Taylor had a nightmare yesterday you have to ask if Hudson is up to the job when one of his colleagues goes missing?
in Hudson's last 7 appearances we've conceded 2 goals. Gerrard played in 3 others where we looked solid, but he actually had poor games in 2 of these. He's decent cover but seems to lose concentration at times and tries to do too much with the ball.
By the way, I wouldn't read too much into the Blackburn game, Blackburn were the worst side I've seen this season.
I was sat down discussing this with some other ex-centre halfs yesterday and just could not understand why there are still fans who don't rate him. Surely he can't be blamed for poor performances from Taylor and Turner ? He was our best defender yesterday by some way.
Hudson has been very lucky that the pace of Kev has helped cover his arse on many occasions.
He's been lucky an awful lot then hasn't he ?
Maybe Kev has also been lucky that Hudson's posisitoning, (and covering for him when he's run 50 yards and given the ball away) blocks, tackles and headers have saved his ass as well.
Sorry Kev is so good at creating good communication with the person in front of him then a large parcentage of the time whenever he is caught out of position the midfielder in front of him covers him far more than Hudson ever does.
Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:40 pm
Lawnmower wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I have agree with MG on this. Whilst Hudson does perform well in parts and is a good Captain there is a lack of concentration when he is in the side. On 3 occasions this season we have conceeded 3 goals at home in a league match and Hudson has played in all of those games.
Yet when Gerrard was in the side we went on a run of clean sheets including one against Premiership Blackburn.
Whilst Taylor had a nightmare yesterday you have to ask if Hudson is up to the job when one of his colleagues goes missing?
in Hudson's last 7 appearances we've conceded 2 goals. Gerrard played in 3 others where we looked solid, but he actually had poor games in 2 of these. He's decent cover but seems to lose concentration at times and tries to do too much with the ball.
By the way, I wouldn't read too much into the Blackburn game, Blackburn were the worst side I've seen this season.
I was sat down discussing this with some other ex-centre halfs yesterday and just could not understand why there are still fans who don't rate him. Surely he can't be blamed for poor performances from Taylor and Turner ? He was our best defender yesterday by some way.
Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:43 pm
Midfield general wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:another dig......im shocked
I would prefer to say FACT
Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:48 pm
Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:52 pm
Midfield general wrote:milly44 wrote:I dont read your previous, Ive just woke up, the last thing I want to o is fall back to sleep![]()
ok In my opinion hes been our best defender in last 12 months
Ouch that hurt![]()
Kienan is much better than Hudson IMO
Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:14 pm
Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:15 pm
Midfield general wrote:milly44 wrote:Midfield general wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:another dig......im shocked
I would prefer to say FACT
He was one of our better players yesterday and we still conceded 3, so wha does that say about turner, taylor and kev yesterday. Hudson is a very good championship centre back.
As previously mentioned can't we look over to longer period then the last 24 hours in this debate..?
Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:28 pm
Midfield general wrote:milly44 wrote:I dont read your previous, Ive just woke up, the last thing I want to o is fall back to sleep![]()
ok In my opinion hes been our best defender in last 12 months
Ouch that hurt![]()
Kienan is much better than Hudson IMO
Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:31 pm
Lawnmower wrote:Midfield general wrote:milly44 wrote:I dont read your previous, Ive just woke up, the last thing I want to o is fall back to sleep![]()
ok In my opinion hes been our best defender in last 12 months
Ouch that hurt![]()
Kienan is much better than Hudson IMO
How many times have you seen Keinan play.
I reckon I've seen him about 7-8 times and for 2 fo those he was awful.
Its a big statement to say he's better than a guy who's played about 100 games and had no more than a handful (if any) as bad as Keinan's performances against Reading and Boro.
Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:49 pm
Midfield general wrote:Lawnmower wrote:Midfield general wrote:milly44 wrote:I dont read your previous, Ive just woke up, the last thing I want to o is fall back to sleep![]()
ok In my opinion hes been our best defender in last 12 months
Ouch that hurt![]()
Kienan is much better than Hudson IMO
How many times have you seen Keinan play.
I reckon I've seen him about 7-8 times and for 2 fo those he was awful.
Its a big statement to say he's better than a guy who's played about 100 games and had no more than a handful (if any) as bad as Keinan's performances against Reading and Boro.
a statement which i have stuck with for months
Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:54 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Lawnmower wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I have agree with MG on this. Whilst Hudson does perform well in parts and is a good Captain there is a lack of concentration when he is in the side. On 3 occasions this season we have conceeded 3 goals at home in a league match and Hudson has played in all of those games.
Yet when Gerrard was in the side we went on a run of clean sheets including one against Premiership Blackburn.
Whilst Taylor had a nightmare yesterday you have to ask if Hudson is up to the job when one of his colleagues goes missing?
in Hudson's last 7 appearances we've conceded 2 goals. Gerrard played in 3 others where we looked solid, but he actually had poor games in 2 of these. He's decent cover but seems to lose concentration at times and tries to do too much with the ball.
By the way, I wouldn't read too much into the Blackburn game, Blackburn were the worst side I've seen this season.
I was sat down discussing this with some other ex-centre halfs yesterday and just could not understand why there are still fans who don't rate him. Surely he can't be blamed for poor performances from Taylor and Turner ? He was our best defender yesterday by some way.
Those figures are a pretty awful argument if I'm honest. If you could have showed me where Gerrard has played and we had conceeded 3 goals on 3 different occasions then may be you would have a case.
Blackburn were shit but they did send on their big strikers for the final quarter and Gerrard and Turner coped easily with them.
Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:15 pm
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Lawnmower wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I have agree with MG on this. Whilst Hudson does perform well in parts and is a good Captain there is a lack of concentration when he is in the side. On 3 occasions this season we have conceeded 3 goals at home in a league match and Hudson has played in all of those games.
Yet when Gerrard was in the side we went on a run of clean sheets including one against Premiership Blackburn.
Whilst Taylor had a nightmare yesterday you have to ask if Hudson is up to the job when one of his colleagues goes missing?
in Hudson's last 7 appearances we've conceded 2 goals. Gerrard played in 3 others where we looked solid, but he actually had poor games in 2 of these. He's decent cover but seems to lose concentration at times and tries to do too much with the ball.
By the way, I wouldn't read too much into the Blackburn game, Blackburn were the worst side I've seen this season.
I was sat down discussing this with some other ex-centre halfs yesterday and just could not understand why there are still fans who don't rate him. Surely he can't be blamed for poor performances from Taylor and Turner ? He was our best defender yesterday by some way.
Those figures are a pretty awful argument if I'm honest. If you could have showed me where Gerrard has played and we had conceeded 3 goals on 3 different occasions then may be you would have a case.
Blackburn were shit but they did send on their big strikers for the final quarter and Gerrard and Turner coped easily with them.
i agree with this....
gerrard does give the ball away carelessly sometimes , however he def puts his body on the line and dosnt seem to lose his man..
fact is, he has def played and we have kept more clean sheets than when we have hudson in the team..
Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:20 pm