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lewis91 wrote:you can't really say where we will finish when we're only half way through the season. there is no reason why we can't achieve promotion..but theres about 10 other teams that will be saying the same. i honestly think we will finish 4th. BUT if we do invest in 2-3 players in january then maybe that position could be higher.
Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:40 am
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Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:52 am
castleblue wrote:This is all about opinions and I respect that but I do not agree we need to find our scoring tough Why?
After 22 games we have scored 34 goals exactly the same total as last season however we have only failed to score in 9% of our games and that compares with 23% last season when we had ALL that supposed talent.
What we have this season is a different playing system and it has made us harder to beat, 3 defeats this season compared with 6 at the same stage last season. Would I change what we have this season for last, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I would like us to sign a few more players, who doesn't, but if we go on your prediction last season Carl where you said if we were within 2 points of the top 2 at the end of February we would get promoted. Then this season where we have a team who score more consistently, who score the first goal more often than any other team in the Championship, a team who have lost half the games we had at this stage last season and who have a defence conceding fewer goals than last season. Why the prediction of finishing 10th.
I will wait until after Watford away on boxing day before making a prediction, but even now I would say we will place higher than 10th. Why? Becauseof the system we play, the consistenty of scoring, the consistency of scoring the first goal and our better defensive record.
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Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:20 am
carlccfc wrote:castleblue wrote:This is all about opinions and I respect that but I do not agree we need to find our scoring tough Why?
After 22 games we have scored 34 goals exactly the same total as last season however we have only failed to score in 9% of our games and that compares with 23% last season when we had ALL that supposed talent.
What we have this season is a different playing system and it has made us harder to beat, 3 defeats this season compared with 6 at the same stage last season. Would I change what we have this season for last, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I would like us to sign a few more players, who doesn't, but if we go on your prediction last season Carl where you said if we were within 2 points of the top 2 at the end of February we would get promoted. Then this season where we have a team who score more consistently, who score the first goal more often than any other team in the Championship, a team who have lost half the games we had at this stage last season and who have a defence conceding fewer goals than last season. Why the prediction of finishing 10th.
I will wait until after Watford away on boxing day before making a prediction, but even now I would say we will place higher than 10th. Why? Becauseof the system we play, the consistenty of scoring, the consistency of scoring the first goal and our better defensive record.
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Gary I still believe if certain players had not gone on the lash before the 'Boro game last season then we would have been promoted automatically, I couldn't legislate for that happening.
The point about the goals was a headline written by the Echo, it was not mine, please read through the article again and it is goal scoring chances that I think are not at a premium, I say that we are hard to beat and long may that continue but I do envisage us having a difficult time if we do not create more chances during a game.
Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:47 am
Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:40 pm
carlccfc wrote:lewis91 wrote:you can't really say where we will finish when we're only half way through the season. there is no reason why we can't achieve promotion..but theres about 10 other teams that will be saying the same. i honestly think we will finish 4th. BUT if we do invest in 2-3 players in january then maybe that position could be higher.
Lewis, how is it that no-one else can say where we think we will finish as we are only halfway through the season yet you honestly think we will finish 4th.
Is it because your prediction is a more positive one than mine, therefore yours is allowed but mine is not ?
Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:21 pm
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Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:43 pm
castleblue wrote:I don’t like to sound negative as we are doing so well, but what I have noticed is that despite being hard to beat we are also a side who do not produce many goal-scoring opportunities. We lack creativity, especially when teams come and man-mark our chief playmaker Peter Whittingham.
This was the main statement in the article that I felt was wrong because I thought we were actually doing OK in the amount of goalscoring opportunities we have been creating. It does highlight how as individual fans we see things differently so I thought I'd take a look at the official match stats for this season and last after 22 games. The comparison is very interesting as I think most would agree that goal scoring chances come from attempt at your opponents goal, so how does this season compare to last.
After 22 games last season the team had achieved 139 attempts on target or an average of 6.31 per game. We also had 133 attempts off target or an average of 6.04 per game. In total thats 272 attempts at goal an average of 12.36 per game.
This season we had 152 attempts on target or an average of 6.90 per game. We have also had 129 attempts off target an average of 5.86 per game. Overall thats 281 attempts on target an average of 12.77 per game.
In overall goalscoring terms we have scored 36 goals this season against a total of 37 last season. So overall we are more than a match for a team that had all the alledged fire power last season.
Sorry but the facts suggest that we are a team who are hard to beat but still carry a goalscoring and creative side to the team to match what many feel was the best squad at this club in decades.
Also Peter Whittingham is our top goalscorer and the number 1 rated player for shooting in the Championship so our opponents are doing a pretty poor job stopping the creative side of his game.
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