" JONES DEFENDS HIS CARDIFF CITY LEGACY "

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" Dave Jones defends his Cardiff City legacy "


Jones was the Championship's longest-serving manager before he was sacked
Dave Jones has defended his Cardiff City legacy after he left managerial successor Malky Mackay with a summer rebuilding job.

Jones made seven loan signings last season as he targeted Premier League promotion but their push was halted by Reading in the Championship play-offs.

Cardiff's loanees were seven of the 12 players that left the Welsh club when Jones' six-year tenure ended in May.

But Jones insisted signing a raft of loan players was not his decision.

"It wasn't mine, it can't be mine," Jones told BBC Radio Wales.

"It is very easy to blame the manager when he leaves and all the players start to leave to say to you left the squad bare.

"But I didn't hold the purse strings and that is nothing to do with me.

"The club were in a situation where we couldn't go out and buy players so what do you do?

"You go and get loans and you go and get free transfers."

The Bluebirds lost Craig Bellamy, Jason Brown, Stephen Bywater, Jay Emmanuel-Thomas, Jason Koumas, Seyi Olofinjana and Jlloyd Samuel when their loan stays at the Cardiff City Stadium expired at the end of last season.


Striker Jay Bothroyd, winger Chris Burke, full-back Adam Matthews and midfielder Gavin Rae also left when their Cardiff contracts expired in the summer.

Mackay, who succeeded Jones in June, has already made 10 signings and hopes to add more loan signings to bolster their Championship play-off push.

Cardiff's loan policy under Jones has been criticised despite the former Bluebirds boss guiding the club to the 2010 Championship play-off final and the 2008 FA Cup final.

Former chairman Peter Ridsdale said the Welsh club had to sell one player a season to survive as Roger Johnson, Aaron Ramsey, Cameron Jerome and Glenn Loovens departed in big-money moves.

Cardiff struggled financially and suffered winding-up petitions before the club were stabilised under their new regime, led by Malysian businessman Dato Chan Tien Ghee

"It was very difficult - but what else can you do?" added Jones.

"It was the only way the club could go, not only last year, but in previous years as we didn't have the finances as they were servicing historical debt.

"My dealings were with the chairmen in Peter and TG [Dato Chan Tien Ghee] was that there was was never any money really so we just did the best job we could."

Jones is clearly deluded. The amount the club spent on agents fees and wages was scandalous. Jones could easily have done what Malky has and brought in decent hard working players on free transfers. The difference between DJ and MM is that jones preferred to play golf instead of working unlike Malky who lives and breathes football and has a team of people working with him to search for players.

Jones is clearly deluded. The amount the club spent on agents fees and wages was scandalous. Jones could easily have done what Malky has and brought in decent hard working players on free transfers. The difference between DJ and MM is that jones preferred to play golf instead of working unlike Malky who lives and breathes football and has a team of people working with him to search for players.

Exactly Gareth the man is deluded he seems to have forgotten he was given the highest playing budget in the history of Cardiff City.

Jones is clearly deluded. The amount the club spent on agents fees and wages was scandalous. Jones could easily have done what Malky has and brought in decent hard working players on free transfers. The difference between DJ and MM is that jones preferred to play golf instead of working unlike Malky who lives and breathes football and has a team of people working with him to search for players.

Exactly Gareth the man is deluded he seems to have forgotten he was given the highest playing budget in the history of Cardiff City.

Not forgetting 800k per year salary.

Jones is clearly deluded. The amount the club spent on agents fees and wages was scandalous. Jones could easily have done what Malky has and brought in decent hard working players on free transfers. The difference between DJ and MM is that jones preferred to play golf instead of working unlike Malky who lives and breathes football and has a team of people working with him to search for players.

Exactly Gareth the man is deluded he seems to have forgotten he was given the highest playing budget in the history of Cardiff City.

I'm sorry but that in itself doesn't mean a thing.


Cardiff hasn't been up to the topflight in decades and it would cost a lot more now than it did back then.

It's to be expected that the more successful the club is the more money that would be available and clearly under DJ we were successful, even if we never did reach the Premier League.

C'mon now stop it, he changed Cardiff City from a rotting team, who were going to become extinct, to a team with a new stadium, mew training facilities, FA Cup Final, many play off encounters, bringing world-class players here in the process.

Jones has fallen flat on his face here.

He's right. Loans and free transfers are probably the only way forward
for a Club with no money.

But the majority of his loan signings last season were abject failures

Nobody told him who to sign, that was his job.

He fucked up

Jones has fallen flat on his face here.

He's right. Loans and free transfers are probably the only way forward
for a Club with no money.

But the majority of his loan signings last season were abject failures

Nobody told him who to sign, that was his job.

He fucked up

His legacy was JLS, Stephen Bywater, JET and Koumas and sadly his pathetic man management and tactical naivety cost us a place in the Premier League

I would love to wright Dave Jones legacy at Cardiff from my perspective

i personally cant see what all this anti dave jones stuff is all about?to me he done a good job in the six years he was here excluding last season when i believe he just lost it as he took us as far as he could and it was time for a change .so i for one got nothing against him

i personally cant see what all this anti dave jones stuff is all about?to me he done a good job in the six years he was here excluding last season when i believe he just lost it as he took us as far as he could and it was time for a change .so i for one got nothing against him

Fair enough Chief

Jones has fallen flat on his face here.

He's right. Loans and free transfers are probably the only way forward
for a Club with no money.

But the majority of his loan signings last season were abject failures

Nobody told him who to sign, that was his job.

He fucked up

His legacy was JLS, Stephen Bywater, JET and Koumas and sadly his pathetic man management and tactical naivety cost us a place in the Premier League

gareth

jones was in sole control of the budget for players last season. He was given sole charge of the money by TG much to the disbelief of his fellow board members.
He was totally responsible for all the loan signings coming in and all the agreements for wages attached to them.
He was then given additional backing in january and he brought the likes of parkin, jay lloyd and bywater into the club which weakened the squad if anything.
I love the way he moans about the constant lack of money but he had the highest wage budgets in the clubs history and was responsible for bringing fowler sinclair and jfh into the club with a combined basic wage of 50k a week.
Football is a small community and its no coincidence that he has struggled to get a new position because people will have known about his preference for the golf course over the training field.
i would also remind people that he was already in football obscurity and been out of a job for over 2 years before sam brought him back into football.

i personally cant see what all this anti dave jones stuff is all about?to me he done a good job in the six years he was here excluding last season when i believe he just lost it as he took us as far as he could and it was time for a change .so i for one got nothing against him

Did a good Job and took as far as he food , but lost the plot last year and it was time for a change . Funny when Malky goes on a Cup run or there good tickers sales that more money for players and wages, but when Jones goes on decent cup runs , sells players for profits and increases season tickets sales that's not at factored in to the player budget.

But the majority of his loan signings last season were abject failures

Actually thatss a fair and spot on post

Its never his fault
guy makes the wrong car in work ? who's fault is that
brickie builds the wrong type of brick wall ? whos fault is that

On a serious note does anyone remember when has it ever been his fault at any point in all the time he was here,i dont expect anything diffrent from him but the old dog who covers his own shit up track record

When I heard Dave Jones speak without any emotion regarding the South Wales derbys, It just summed up the man for me. I watched a game on Sky when DJ was your gaffa, you were at home and you lost to a struggling team, on the day the way you played was shocking and from the touchline he was standing there saying and doing nothing, I would have lost the plot at during and after the game. I can't remember who you played though. ATB. Reeco

Hasn't Malky worked under the very same conditions? For the most part has lived off free transfers and loans but has transformed the team and the way we play. Indeed has there been a Malky signing which could even come close to being classed as a Bywater, JLS or JET?

Jones is a tosser and as Steve Davies rightly pointed out the football world is a small place and that might explain why he is struggling to find a new job.

Bellamy and Ramsey was quality signings, Olly was OK and the likes of Jay Lloyd, Thomas, Bywater, Koumas, was utter utter crap and the buck stops with Jones.
Yes Jones gave us an FA Cup final but he truly fucked the final up didn't he ? Then there was the play off final !! Again he fucked that up with the help of Jay. And the last season at Ninian Park, Jesus he completely lost the dressing room at the end of the season, How many times did that happen ?.It was plainly obvious he never carried the respect of the Players he ran it on fear. His treatment of Ramsey and in particular Adam Matthews was criminal and especially as Matthews was at such tender years.
But his attitude didn't just apply to his Players, he hated us supporters with a passion, and in return i have never liked or respected Dave Jones. Now he has gone he is sticking his unwanted oar in because Malky is loved unlike he ever was. The team hasn't any superstars but they make up for that in passion guts determination, and i for one is loving every minute of it.
Yes promotion would be nice but to be honest i am just enjoying my football for the first time in years. It feels if i have had my club back.
All i want is for the ghost of Dave Jones to disappear and let this Club find itself again, And if Jones returns i will not Boo or clap him just like Chopra. (But saying that i did clap Chopra at the final whistle for the respect he did show us during the game ).

Bellamy and Ramsey was quality signings, Olly was OK and the likes of Jay Lloyd, Thomas, Bywater, Koumas, was utter utter crap and the buck stops with Jones.
Yes Jones gave us an FA Cup final but he truly fucked the final up didn't he ? Then there was the play off final !! Again he fucked that up with the help of Jay. And the last season at Ninian Park, Jesus he completely lost the dressing room at the end of the season, How many times did that happen ?.It was plainly obvious he never carried the respect of the Players he ran it on fear. His treatment of Ramsey and in particular Adam Matthews was criminal and especially as Matthews was at such tender years.
But his attitude didn't just apply to his Players, he hated us supporters with a passion, and in return i have never liked or respected Dave Jones. Now he has gone he is sticking his unwanted oar in because Malky is loved unlike he ever was. The team hasn't any superstars but they make up for that in passion guts determination, and i for one is loving every minute of it.
Yes promotion would be nice but to be honest i am just enjoying my football for the first time in years. It feels if i have had my club back.
All i want is for the ghost of Dave Jones to disappear and let this Club find itself again, And if Jones returns i will not Boo or clap him just like Chopra. (But saying that i did clap Chopra at the final whistle for the respect he did show us during the game ).

That's a thread stopper if I have ever read one

The mods should put this up as a one post sticky, so next time someone moans its unfair to have ago at Jones we can use the 'view topic' in response

Yes Jones gave us an FA Cup final but he truly fucked the final up didn't he

I thought we played rather well in the Final , it was just a shame we didn't have fit strikers - That's the only think that really cost us , that and a goal keeper mess up .

Bellamy and Ramsey was quality signings, Olly was OK and the likes of Jay Lloyd, Thomas, Bywater, Koumas, was utter utter crap and the buck stops with Jones.

Olly was rather good but just seemed to give up and lack focus towards the end, Bywater was utter shit and really what cost us . I couldn't never work Jay Loyd out , for some of his games he was top quality with skill and passing that was sublime but then seemed not to give a sh8t .

Then there was the play off final !! Again he fucked that up with the help of Jay

Again I though we played well , and if Jay stayed on the Pitch I think we would have gone up. That said a 'Final' game is hit and miss and one can never call it

Now he has gone he is sticking his unwanted oar in because Malky is loved unlike he ever was

I seem to remember Jones being well liked for the 1st 4 odd years . I can tell you now that if Malky doesn't get us into the Prem after 6 years he not be loved any more than Jones.

I like Malky and he's doing a great job and if we make it to the Playoff's I can see us losing under Malky but Jones and lawrence played their part in helping the Club go forward.

Yes Jones gave us an FA Cup final but he truly fucked the final up didn't he

I thought we played rather well in the Final , it was just a shame we didn't have fit strikers - That's the only think that really cost us , that and a goal keeper mess up .

Bellamy and Ramsey was quality signings, Olly was OK and the likes of Jay Lloyd, Thomas, Bywater, Koumas, was utter utter crap and the buck stops with Jones.

Olly was rather good but just seemed to give up and lack focus towards the end, Bywater was utter shit and really what cost us . I couldn't never work Jay Loyd out , for some of his games he was top quality with skill and passing that was sublime but then seemed not to give a sh8t .

Then there was the play off final !! Again he fucked that up with the help of Jay

Again I though we played well , and if Jay stayed on the Pitch I think we would have gone up. That said a 'Final' game is hit and miss and one can never call it

Now he has gone he is sticking his unwanted oar in because Malky is loved unlike he ever was

I seem to remember Jones being well liked for the 1st 4 odd years . I can tell you now that if Malky doesn't get us into the Prem after 6 years he not be loved any more than Jones.

I like Malky and he's doing a great job and if we make it to the Playoff's I can see us losing under Malky but Jones and lawrence played their part in helping the Club go forward.

Your not Dave Jones' scriptwrighter by any chance?

No fit strikers for the final, it was 'Olly' who gave up, JLS produced some 'quality', the Blackpool result was Jay's fault, Jones was 'loved' for the first 4 years and Malky will lose any future play-off final.

Fair play that beats anything the miserable scouse git could ever dream up.

Yes Jones gave us an FA Cup final but he truly fucked the final up didn't he

I thought we played rather well in the Final , it was just a shame we didn't have fit strikers - That's the only think that really cost us , that and a goal keeper mess up .

Bellamy and Ramsey was quality signings, Olly was OK and the likes of Jay Lloyd, Thomas, Bywater, Koumas, was utter utter crap and the buck stops with Jones.

Olly was rather good but just seemed to give up and lack focus towards the end, Bywater was utter shit and really what cost us . I couldn't never work Jay Loyd out , for some of his games he was top quality with skill and passing that was sublime but then seemed not to give a sh8t .

Then there was the play off final !! Again he fucked that up with the help of Jay

Again I though we played well , and if Jay stayed on the Pitch I think we would have gone up. That said a 'Final' game is hit and miss and one can never call it

Now he has gone he is sticking his unwanted oar in because Malky is loved unlike he ever was

I seem to remember Jones being well liked for the 1st 4 odd years . I can tell you now that if Malky doesn't get us into the Prem after 6 years he not be loved any more than Jones.

I like Malky and he's doing a great job and if we make it to the Playoff's I can see us losing under Malky but Jones and lawrence played their part in helping the Club go forward.

Your not Dave Jones' scriptwrighter by any chance?

No fit strikers for the final, it was 'Olly' who gave up, JLS produced some 'quality', the Blackpool result was Jay's fault, Jones was 'loved' for the first 4 years and Malky will lose any future play-off final.

Fair play that beats anything the miserable scouse git could ever dream up.

I meant can't see us losing in the Playoff's under Malky lets get that clear for starters . About Jay I felt if he would have been on the Pitch for the duration of the Final we would have gone up , I felt we went down hill after Jay was forced off.

And I don't know what FA Cup final you watched, but Jimmy clearly wasn't 100% fit, GOD wasn't fit or really gave a toss about Cardiff and that left Tomo whom maybe should have been brought on sooner but I didn't feel it would have made much difference with Jimmy not 100% fit , Parry not fit and the likes of GOD neither fit seemed to give a hoot about Cardiff.

Yes Jones gave us an FA Cup final but he truly fucked the final up didn't he

I thought we played rather well in the Final , it was just a shame we didn't have fit strikers - That's the only think that really cost us , that and a goal keeper mess up .
Jones failed to play our best player in Aaron Ramsey, and when he came on he made the difference. But it was to late

Bellamy and Ramsey was quality signings, Olly was OK and the likes of Jay Lloyd, Thomas, Bywater, Koumas, was utter utter crap and the buck stops with Jones.

Olly was rather good but just seemed to give up and lack focus towards the end, Bywater was utter shit and really what cost us . I couldn't never work Jay Loyd out , for some of his games he was top quality with skill and passing that was sublime but then seemed not to give a sh8t .
JLS played against Boro either still pissed or with a hangover. He gave away two early Boro goals. Jones never had any control over his players

Then there was the play off final !! Again he fucked that up with the help of Jay

Again I though we played well , and if Jay stayed on the Pitch I think we would have gone up. That said a 'Final' game is hit and miss and one can never call it
Jones was tactically out thought by Holloway. Best player on the pitch was Chopra. The last time he ever played well for us.

Now he has gone he is sticking his unwanted oar in because Malky is loved unlike he ever was

I seem to remember Jones being well liked for the 1st 4 odd years . I can tell you now that if Malky doesn't get us into the Prem after 6 years he not be loved any more than Jones.

I like Malky and he's doing a great job and if we make it to the Playoff's I can see us losing under Malky but Jones and lawrence played their part in helping the Club go forward.

Interesting thought. But if Malky is supported by the Board he is a quality Manager and i am sure he will succeed. But one thing about City Fans we are a pretty tolerant bunch. We are despite what Jones says a patient lot. But what we wont put up with is fools and time wasters and hangers on who do not give a shit for our Club. As long as Malky respects the Club and Fans then as his work ethic is fantastic i will support him.

f**k me if people want the ghost of Jones to dissapear stop making countless threads every week about him.

Some people are more obsessed and addicted to putting down Dave Jones, than Chopra is with Gambling.

Arguing over what the best team to play in a final 4 years ago. Yawn. Get a life.

Some people appreciate what he done, some despise him. Get over it.

I had some root work done at the dentist this morning and it was more fun than watching DJ in any interview. So as far as I'm concerned I'd rather have a good dose of root work at the dentist than think about his time at our club.

f**k me if people want the ghost of Jones to dissapear stop making countless threads every week about him.

Some people are more obsessed and addicted to putting down Dave Jones, than Chopra is with Gambling.

Arguing over what the best team to play in a final 4 years ago. Yawn. Get a life.

Some people appreciate what he done, some despise him. Get over it.

Excuse me !! I am allowed my opinion. I am commenting on his comments on our Club which gives me a right to respond. Truth is i am over him way over the fat Scouse knob. Also i do have a life a very good one Do you Minty ?

f**k me if people want the ghost of Jones to dissapear stop making countless threads every week about him.

Some people are more obsessed and addicted to putting down Dave Jones, than Chopra is with Gambling.

Arguing over what the best team to play in a final 4 years ago. Yawn. Get a life.

Some people appreciate what he done, some despise him. Get over it.

We're debating a radio interview here, so obviously things he said yesterday in that interview are now relevent for posting on.

In a radio interview yesterday Jonesy said regarding the Middlesborough game last season.."certain players let himself, their team-mates and the club down". One vital ingredient he misses out there..NO MENTION OF LETTING THE FANS DOWN. A vital mistake that he made during his tender here IMO was his total disrespect for the soul of the club and that is US THE FANS, "people in this part of the world, have a shit journey home" etc didn't do him any favours with us, plus his stubborness in not speaking to the local press. Look at Malky he's probably as different to Jonesy as you could get and he has the total respect of the fan base, we are passionate people in South Wales and Malky embraces that passion unlike his predecessor.

f**k me if people want the ghost of Jones to dissapear stop making countless threads every week about him.

Some people are more obsessed and addicted to putting down Dave Jones, than Chopra is with Gambling.

Arguing over what the best team to play in a final 4 years ago. Yawn. Get a life.

Some people appreciate what he done, some despise him. Get over it.

We're debating a radio interview here, so obviously things he said yesterday in that interview are now relevent for posting on.

Everything thats been said on this thread has been said a million times before. Boring.

f**k me if people want the ghost of Jones to dissapear stop making countless threads every week about him.

Some people are more obsessed and addicted to putting down Dave Jones, than Chopra is with Gambling.

Arguing over what the best team to play in a final 4 years ago. Yawn. Get a life.

Some people appreciate what he done, some despise him. Get over it.

We're debating a radio interview here, so obviously things he said yesterday in that interview are now relevent for posting on.

Everything thats been said on this thread has been said a million times before. Boring.

Don't read it if its boring Chuff. Any way the only one that sounds like a broken record is You.

I could write a lot but I can’t be arsed.,just like when we miss out on promotion under JIMMY SCHOLAR.It’s all history now.
If the dog hadn’t stopped to crap he would have won the race!