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Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:12 am

i am looking to be a steward at cardiff stadium and mellenium stadium, i understand your supposed to watch the crowd but during the game and if there is no trouble in the crowd, do stewards get to watch the majority of the game ?

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:20 am

carpet20 wrote:i am looking to be a steward at cardiff stadium and mellenium stadium, i understand your supposed to watch the crowd but during the game and if there is no trouble in the crowd, do stewards get to watch the majority of the game ?


you will probably get to see about 60% of the game depending on where you work but thats the maximum
you wont see kick-off and you may miss the last 10 minutes
stewards have to man exit gates at all times where you will miss large sections of the game but this is done on a round robin process so its done fairly
its a good job
and its a way of being at the stadium if you cant afford tickets
plus you have Cardiff Blues games and international games which always brings in extra income if you choose to work them

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:28 am

Midfield general wrote:
carpet20 wrote:i am looking to be a steward at cardiff stadium and mellenium stadium, i understand your supposed to watch the crowd but during the game and if there is no trouble in the crowd, do stewards get to watch the majority of the game ?


you aren't supposed too. I remember a few years ago I had a tour around St.James' Park and we were told that if they seen any steward watch the game via CCTV then they won't be allowed to work at another game. :shock:


yeah thats St James Park
did you know Anfield Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford dont pay their pitch side stewards because they consider it as a free ticket so you can watch the game for free
the emphasis is watching the crowd
though a good steward can predict a crowds reaction during a phase of play
and a very good steward can know basically whats going on on the pitch by just watching the crowd

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:42 am

If people want a free ticket they only have to be 50/50 seller and get a hot dog or something.

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:44 am

Midfield general wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
carpet20 wrote:i am looking to be a steward at cardiff stadium and mellenium stadium, i understand your supposed to watch the crowd but during the game and if there is no trouble in the crowd, do stewards get to watch the majority of the game ?


you aren't supposed too. I remember a few years ago I had a tour around St.James' Park and we were told that if they seen any steward watch the game via CCTV then they won't be allowed to work at another game. :shock:


yeah thats St James Park
did you know Anfield Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford dont pay their pitch side stewards because they consider it as a free ticket so you can watch the game for freethe emphasis is watching the crowd
though a good steward can predict a crowds reaction during a phase of play
and a very good steward can know basically whats going on on the pitch by just watching the crowd


Well maybe thats something the club could look into if others are doing it..?


what not pay them for work
grow up
these clubs ive mentioned are some of the richest in the world
and they are willing to penny pinch over stewards pay
though only reason they get away with it is the lure of top flight and champions league football
Cardiff have no chance
Championship football cardiff are playing
not champions league
and the fact that you would even suggest that you would agree to the idea that people should work for free is in contradiction of everything you have ever said about workers

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:53 am

MG stop being mean, he is only telling us the job which he seems to know well.

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:56 am

Be realistic, stewards won't work for free at CCFC and you know that.

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:58 am

Midfield general wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
carpet20 wrote:i am looking to be a steward at cardiff stadium and mellenium stadium, i understand your supposed to watch the crowd but during the game and if there is no trouble in the crowd, do stewards get to watch the majority of the game ?


you aren't supposed too. I remember a few years ago I had a tour around St.James' Park and we were told that if they seen any steward watch the game via CCTV then they won't be allowed to work at another game. :shock:


yeah thats St James Park
did you know Anfield Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford dont pay their pitch side stewards because they consider it as a free ticket so you can watch the game for freethe emphasis is watching the crowd
though a good steward can predict a crowds reaction during a phase of play
and a very good steward can know basically whats going on on the pitch by just watching the crowd


Well maybe thats something the club could look into if others are doing it..?


what not pay them for work
grow up
these clubs ive mentioned are some of the richest in the world
and they are willing to penny pinch over stewards pay
though only reason they get away with it is the lure of top flight and champions league football
Cardiff have no chance
Championship football cardiff are playing
not champions league
and the fact that you would even suggest that you would agree to the idea that people should work for free is in contradiction of everything you have ever said about workers


But you said that they watch up to 60% of the game so only pay 40% of the pay then :lol:


1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:58 am

Johnny takes a lot of stick on this board at times. Im must say I enjoy reading what he says from a stewards point of view. While I am not always a fan of the way the stewarding is run at our club, its not jonny or the other stewards choice. Im sure Johnny loves his job and wants to keep it, therefore he listen to the orders from above. Like we all do in order to keep our jobs!

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:00 am

milly44 wrote:Johnny takes a lot of stick on this board at times. Im must say I enjoy reading what he says from a stewards point of view. While I am not always a fan of the way the stewarding is run at our club, its not jonny or the other stewards choice. Im sure Johnny loves his job and wants to keep it, therefore he listen to the orders from above. Like we all do in order to keep our jobs!


thanks :ayatollah:

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:02 am

milly44 wrote:Johnny takes a lot of stick on this board at times. Im must say I enjoy reading what he says from a stewards point of view. While I am not always a fan of the way the stewarding is run at our club, its not jonny or the other stewards choice. Im sure Johnny loves his job and wants to keep it, therefore he listen to the orders from above. Like we all do in order to keep our jobs!


Totally agree :ayatollah:


And the above points about watching the game. Surely it had to be the job of the stewards to watch the game and expect/ prepare for moments of excitement?

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:07 am

MG is just a first class k**b

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:10 am

2blue2handle wrote:
milly44 wrote:Johnny takes a lot of stick on this board at times. Im must say I enjoy reading what he says from a stewards point of view. While I am not always a fan of the way the stewarding is run at our club, its not jonny or the other stewards choice. Im sure Johnny loves his job and wants to keep it, therefore he listen to the orders from above. Like we all do in order to keep our jobs!


Totally agree :ayatollah:


And the above points about watching the game. Surely it had to be the job of the stewards to watch the game and expect/ prepare for moments of excitement?


not only that
and this really annoys me
when you see stewards sitting in front of the crowd
how have they got time to react to anything
take a pitch invader
by the time a steward has realised whats going on
got up
and reacted to the situation
the invader is already on the pitch
a good steward has one eye on the game and one on the crowd
a good steward can know the crowds potential reaction from watching the game and know whats going on on the pitch by watching the crowd

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:10 am

In the past I have watched sporting events and football matches for free, by beeing a steward for the day because I couldnt afford to buy a ticket when I was younger. (mates have helped me out) Would I do it for free now? NO NEVER!!
If I lived in manchester and was a united fan, had a decent job but not well paid enough for season tickets and the chance off stewarding for free came up at old trafford would I take it? POSSIBLY.
would I at Cardiff City.....fek no! :lol:

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:12 am

Midfield general wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can


You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure


Don't get me started on fag breaks :twisted:

But they have no link to work.
Watching the game has a massive connection to crowd safety

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:15 am

Midfield general wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can


You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure

Ok MG do you ever go for a piss in work? does your boss dock you 14p for the 32seconds your pissing?
At old trafford they could put an advert out for 500 stewards no pay but watch 50% of the game and that would be filled in half hour. We are Cardiff city if stewards didnt get paid we wouldnt have any, so I would be a bit more grateful for the work they do!

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:17 am

Midfield general wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can


You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure


1 i dont smoke so good luck on arguing that one
2 we dont get breaks as stewards the time we work isnt long enough to qualify for a break
3 if you want to spend a game looking for work for stewards to do when nothing is going on be my guest ill look for you at the next game
4 your attempt to lower every public sector worker as a lazy idiot is not going to win you many fans but then again you havent got many so i dont suppose it bothers you
anyway
bored of talking to you
you offer nothing to this thread other than half truths and your unfounded opinion
i guess you think im stupid because im a steward nothing could be further from the truth

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:18 am

Midfield general wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can


You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure


Don't get me started on fag breaks :twisted:

But they have no link to work.
Watching the game has a massive connection to crowd safety


How can you watch the game and the fans at the same time..? Unless stewards have eyes in the back of their heads then its impossible. FACT


Now your just being silly, I'm not suggesting he can.
It's like saying you cross the road but only look to the left and you assume the right will be ok.

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:21 am

Midfield general wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can


You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure


Don't get me started on fag breaks :twisted:

But they have no link to work.
Watching the game has a massive connection to crowd safety


How can you watch the game and the fans at the same time..? Unless stewards have eyes in the back of their heads then its impossible. FACT


come find me on the next home game ill show you
not a problem
ill find you a nice jacket to wear and you can watch me work
its called being aware of your surroundings
reading different situations
using your peripheral vision and using spatial awareness
skills you obviously dont have

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:25 am

Dont get riled Johnny. if you kick off you will have to remove yourself from the messageboard in a safe manner, dont expect to return as your name will be on every computer, your card will be blocked and you will have to take your laptop to ravanelli's office everytime wales or cardiff play home and away!! :D

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:28 am

milly44 wrote:Dont get riled Johnny. if you kick off you will have to remove yourself from the messageboard in a safe manner, dont expect to return as your name will be on every computer, your card will be blocked and you will have to take your laptop to ravanelli's office everytime wales or cardiff play home and away!! :D


lol
ill attempt to behave myself
your honour
this was a one off i assure it will never happen again lol
as for ravanelli no one wants to be in his bad books lol

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:53 am

milly44 wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can


You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure

Ok MG do you ever go for a piss in work? does your boss dock you 14p for the 32seconds your pissing?
At old trafford they could put an advert out for 500 stewards no pay but watch 50% of the game and that would be filled in half hour. We are Cardiff city if stewards didnt get paid we wouldnt have any, so I would be a bit more grateful for the work they do!


In the Private sector nowadays, an employer could probably get away with
docking you, and even put a 20p slop in the toilets. :lol:

In the Public Sector. The Union would not stand for it. The employer cannot
get away with shitting on the workers

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:24 pm

Midfield general wrote:A few people have commented on whether people would do the stewarding role for free down the City but personally I think they would. The reason behind my thinking is the same why people do it for free at clubs like Merthyr and so on. Its because they love the club and as Johnny mentioned they want to watch the majority of the game for free.

However technically it wouldn't be for free as 60% of average match ticket would be around the £14 mark. As Ive mentioned eariler on the people who want the board to run the club as a business should be supporting this move.

Stewards at Merthyr. You really are desperate to get your point across. :lol:
We both know stewarding at merthyr would mean watching 99% of the game (thats if they even have any)
We certainly dont have any at Caerleon and I expect crowds are similer. A program seller maybe and someone on the gate taking the money, Good argument though :lol:

Re: Can you watch much the the game being a steward

Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:30 pm

I’d say it’s down to where you’re positioned. On average, I get to see around 70% of the game but I’m in the Family Stand so there’s never really much happening and the majority of my efforts probably end up going more towards childcare duties and making sure they don’t hurt themselves by running and climbing about the place, rather than crowd trouble. Like Jonny said though, when you’re on one of the gates you’re not going to see a thing. The 30% I do miss always seems to be when the goals are being scored as the crowd start getting a bit boisterous in the build-up so you have to keep your eye on things. The best mentality to it imo is to expect not to see much and if you do then bonus, if you don’t, then you’ve been paid to do a job. In regards to working for free, I personally wouldn’t when there’s door work going in town for twice the rate of what I’m paid and I know there’s a fair few on my team with no interest in football whatsoever and just work for the additional income.