Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:12 am
Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:20 am
carpet20 wrote:i am looking to be a steward at cardiff stadium and mellenium stadium, i understand your supposed to watch the crowd but during the game and if there is no trouble in the crowd, do stewards get to watch the majority of the game ?
Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:28 am
Midfield general wrote:carpet20 wrote:i am looking to be a steward at cardiff stadium and mellenium stadium, i understand your supposed to watch the crowd but during the game and if there is no trouble in the crowd, do stewards get to watch the majority of the game ?
you aren't supposed too. I remember a few years ago I had a tour around St.James' Park and we were told that if they seen any steward watch the game via CCTV then they won't be allowed to work at another game.
Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:42 am
Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:44 am
Midfield general wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Midfield general wrote:carpet20 wrote:i am looking to be a steward at cardiff stadium and mellenium stadium, i understand your supposed to watch the crowd but during the game and if there is no trouble in the crowd, do stewards get to watch the majority of the game ?
you aren't supposed too. I remember a few years ago I had a tour around St.James' Park and we were told that if they seen any steward watch the game via CCTV then they won't be allowed to work at another game.
yeah thats St James Park
did you know Anfield Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford dont pay their pitch side stewards because they consider it as a free ticket so you can watch the game for freethe emphasis is watching the crowd
though a good steward can predict a crowds reaction during a phase of play
and a very good steward can know basically whats going on on the pitch by just watching the crowd
Well maybe thats something the club could look into if others are doing it..?
Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:53 am
Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:56 am
Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:58 am
Midfield general wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Midfield general wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Midfield general wrote:carpet20 wrote:i am looking to be a steward at cardiff stadium and mellenium stadium, i understand your supposed to watch the crowd but during the game and if there is no trouble in the crowd, do stewards get to watch the majority of the game ?
you aren't supposed too. I remember a few years ago I had a tour around St.James' Park and we were told that if they seen any steward watch the game via CCTV then they won't be allowed to work at another game.
yeah thats St James Park
did you know Anfield Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford dont pay their pitch side stewards because they consider it as a free ticket so you can watch the game for freethe emphasis is watching the crowd
though a good steward can predict a crowds reaction during a phase of play
and a very good steward can know basically whats going on on the pitch by just watching the crowd
Well maybe thats something the club could look into if others are doing it..?
what not pay them for work
grow up
these clubs ive mentioned are some of the richest in the world
and they are willing to penny pinch over stewards pay
though only reason they get away with it is the lure of top flight and champions league football
Cardiff have no chance
Championship football cardiff are playing
not champions league
and the fact that you would even suggest that you would agree to the idea that people should work for free is in contradiction of everything you have ever said about workers
But you said that they watch up to 60% of the game so only pay 40% of the pay then
Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:58 am
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:00 am
milly44 wrote:Johnny takes a lot of stick on this board at times. Im must say I enjoy reading what he says from a stewards point of view. While I am not always a fan of the way the stewarding is run at our club, its not jonny or the other stewards choice. Im sure Johnny loves his job and wants to keep it, therefore he listen to the orders from above. Like we all do in order to keep our jobs!
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:02 am
milly44 wrote:Johnny takes a lot of stick on this board at times. Im must say I enjoy reading what he says from a stewards point of view. While I am not always a fan of the way the stewarding is run at our club, its not jonny or the other stewards choice. Im sure Johnny loves his job and wants to keep it, therefore he listen to the orders from above. Like we all do in order to keep our jobs!
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:07 am
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:10 am
2blue2handle wrote:milly44 wrote:Johnny takes a lot of stick on this board at times. Im must say I enjoy reading what he says from a stewards point of view. While I am not always a fan of the way the stewarding is run at our club, its not jonny or the other stewards choice. Im sure Johnny loves his job and wants to keep it, therefore he listen to the orders from above. Like we all do in order to keep our jobs!
Totally agree![]()
And the above points about watching the game. Surely it had to be the job of the stewards to watch the game and expect/ prepare for moments of excitement?
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:10 am
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:12 am
Midfield general wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can
You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:15 am
Midfield general wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can
You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:17 am
Midfield general wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can
You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:18 am
Midfield general wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Midfield general wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can
You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure
Don't get me started on fag breaks![]()
But they have no link to work.
Watching the game has a massive connection to crowd safety
How can you watch the game and the fans at the same time..? Unless stewards have eyes in the back of their heads then its impossible. FACT
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:21 am
Midfield general wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Midfield general wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can
You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure
Don't get me started on fag breaks![]()
But they have no link to work.
Watching the game has a massive connection to crowd safety
How can you watch the game and the fans at the same time..? Unless stewards have eyes in the back of their heads then its impossible. FACT
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:25 am
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:28 am
milly44 wrote:Dont get riled Johnny. if you kick off you will have to remove yourself from the messageboard in a safe manner, dont expect to return as your name will be on every computer, your card will be blocked and you will have to take your laptop to ravanelli's office everytime wales or cardiff play home and away!!
Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:53 am
milly44 wrote:Midfield general wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:1 60% is being generous
2 if the club wants to go on the idea that we dont have to pay you because you get to watch the game, then i want to watch all of the game thats 100% of it
3 if you want go down that route prove to me how much of the game i watch i could easily say to you i havent seen the ball kicked once so pay me 100% of the game
not that clever are you
good with words ill give you that
good at starting an argument
but your not very good at maintaining one
your an opportunist who picks on whoever they can
You've admitted that you watch up to 60% of every game so why should your employer pay for that..? Its similar to why should employers pay for fag breaks..? You aren't working so you shouldn't get paid!!!! With this kind of attiude Johnny would do well in the public sector thats for sure
Ok MG do you ever go for a piss in work? does your boss dock you 14p for the 32seconds your pissing?
At old trafford they could put an advert out for 500 stewards no pay but watch 50% of the game and that would be filled in half hour. We are Cardiff city if stewards didnt get paid we wouldnt have any, so I would be a bit more grateful for the work they do!
Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:24 pm
Midfield general wrote:A few people have commented on whether people would do the stewarding role for free down the City but personally I think they would. The reason behind my thinking is the same why people do it for free at clubs like Merthyr and so on. Its because they love the club and as Johnny mentioned they want to watch the majority of the game for free.
However technically it wouldn't be for free as 60% of average match ticket would be around the £14 mark. As Ive mentioned eariler on the people who want the board to run the club as a business should be supporting this move.
Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:30 pm