Atmosphere and Ninian Stand

Like many of you i preferred the days when almost anything went at football matches haha and especially when 3 sides of the ground were for standing and singing (or at least 2)
But i'm afraid this battle to stand up in the ninian stand looks like one you're not gonna win. for one reason or another its seems like a lot of fans around want to sit down to watch the game. i suppose there isnt a lot the club can do about this if they're receiving complaints

My question is why dont you all come over to the canton stand. Its cheaper and i havent once been asked to sit down. I know this is not ideal for many of you but i believe we can create a better atmosphere if we were all in the canton stand.

Last year i went to watch Roma VS Lazio and all the noise comes from behind both goals (the curva's) the roma ultras were in the curva sud (south) and the lazio fans were in the curva nord (north) and the atmosphere was incredible! it really made the hairs on my neck stand up. I've been to a few other italian games and the same has applied the atmosphere has always come from behind the goal

I believe thiis can be replicated at cardiff and the ccs can become on of the loudest grounds in britain again.


Below is a video pre-match of roma vs lazio

http://www.youtube.com/user/ratmanyello ... NF4NLN8yGs

Like many of you i preferred the days when almost anything went at football matches haha and especially when 3 sides of the ground were for standing and singing (or at least 2)
But i'm afraid this battle to stand up in the ninian stand looks like one you're not gonna win. for one reason or another its seems like a lot of fans around want to sit down to watch the game. i suppose there isnt a lot the club can do about this if they're receiving complaints

My question is why dont you all come over to the canton stand. Its cheaper and i havent once been asked to sit down. I know this is not ideal for many of you but i believe we can create a better atmosphere if we were all in the canton stand.

Last year i went to watch Roma VS Lazio and all the noise comes from behind both goals (the curva's) the roma ultras were in the curva sud (south) and the lazio fans were in the curva nord (north) and the atmosphere was incredible! it really made the hairs on my neck stand up. I've been to a few other italian games and the same has applied the atmosphere has always come from behind the goal

I believe thiis can be replicated at cardiff and the ccs can become on of the loudest grounds in britain again.


Below is a video pre-match of roma vs lazio

http://www.youtube.com/user/ratmanyello ... NF4NLN8yGs

Because I dont like watching the match from behind the goal at home games, I have not done that since 1982 in the old Canton Stand. Since then I have watched City from the centre of the Bob Bank and then 7 years in the Upper Grandstand at Ninian Park Section A.The last seat in Section A to Section B.I like watching football from the side of the pitch. What is wrong with sections 116/117/118 being allowed to stand ? You are then left with most of the Ninian Stand sitting, Family section Sitting and the Grandstand sitting.

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

Like many of you i preferred the days when almost anything went at football matches haha and especially when 3 sides of the ground were for standing and singing (or at least 2)
But i'm afraid this battle to stand up in the ninian stand looks like one you're not gonna win. for one reason or another its seems like a lot of fans around want to sit down to watch the game. i suppose there isnt a lot the club can do about this if they're receiving complaints

My question is why dont you all come over to the canton stand. Its cheaper and i havent once been asked to sit down. I know this is not ideal for many of you but i believe we can create a better atmosphere if we were all in the canton stand.

Last year i went to watch Roma VS Lazio and all the noise comes from behind both goals (the curva's) the roma ultras were in the curva sud (south) and the lazio fans were in the curva nord (north) and the atmosphere was incredible! it really made the hairs on my neck stand up. I've been to a few other italian games and the same has applied the atmosphere has always come from behind the goal

I believe thiis can be replicated at cardiff and the ccs can become on of the loudest grounds in britain again.


Below is a video pre-match of roma vs lazio

http://www.youtube.com/user/ratmanyello ... NF4NLN8yGs

Because I dont like watching the match from behind the goal at home games, I have not done that since 1982 in the old Canton Stand. Since then I have watched City from the centre of the Bob Bank and then 7 years in the Upper Grandstand at Ninian Park Section A.The last seat in Section A to Section B.I like watching football from the side of the pitch. What is wrong with sections 116/117/118 being allowed to stand ? You are then left with most of the Ninian Stand sitting, Family section Sitting and the Grandstand sitting.

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

Yes Tony, people standing up in the Ninian Stand 116/117, they have had about half a dozen letters.

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

Yes Tony, people standing up in the Ninian Stand 116/117, they have had about half a dozen letters.

Let's send in our own letters of complaint

If fans want to sit why cant the club move them a block over

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

Jonny, can you explain what type of complaints are being made, if you are aware?

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

Jonny, can you explain what type of complaints are being made, if you are aware?

no sorry i dont
i can imagine its the sit down brigade sticking their oar in about standing

Firstly, I prefer watching football from the side. If I have no choice (like at away games), then fair enough. However where I have the choice I much prefer the view I get from the Ninian than from the Canton.

Secondly, and people may disagree with this, I enjoy the atmosphere when being by the away fans. This has nothing to do with wanting trouble or anything, I do not. I just enjoy some of the back and forth that happens.

Like many of you i preferred the days when almost anything went at football matches haha and especially when 3 sides of the ground were for standing and singing (or at least 2)
But i'm afraid this battle to stand up in the ninian stand looks like one you're not gonna win. for one reason or another its seems like a lot of fans around want to sit down to watch the game. i suppose there isnt a lot the club can do about this if they're receiving complaints

My question is why dont you all come over to the canton stand. Its cheaper and i havent once been asked to sit down. I know this is not ideal for many of you but i believe we can create a better atmosphere if we were all in the canton stand.

Last year i went to watch Roma VS Lazio and all the noise comes from behind both goals (the curva's) the roma ultras were in the curva sud (south) and the lazio fans were in the curva nord (north) and the atmosphere was incredible! it really made the hairs on my neck stand up. I've been to a few other italian games and the same has applied the atmosphere has always come from behind the goal

I believe thiis can be replicated at cardiff and the ccs can become on of the loudest grounds in britain again.


Below is a video pre-match of roma vs lazio

http://www.youtube.com/user/ratmanyello ... NF4NLN8yGs

Because I dont like watching the match from behind the goal at home games, I have not done that since 1982 in the old Canton Stand. Since then I have watched City from the centre of the Bob Bank and then 7 years in the Upper Grandstand at Ninian Park Section A.The last seat in Section A to Section B.I like watching football from the side of the pitch. What is wrong with sections 116/117/118 being allowed to stand ? You are then left with most of the Ninian Stand sitting, Family section Sitting and the Grandstand sitting.

I dont disagree with you. personally i'd rather the whole ground would stand and sing but i'm just trying to think of an alternative which is surely better than sitting down.

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

Yes Tony, people standing up in the Ninian Stand 116/117, they have had about half a dozen letters.

Let's send in our own letters of complaint

I'm not sure if that is an attempted joke Adam, but actually that isn't a bad idea.

We might not actually be talking about making a compliant but it certainly wouldn't hurt if someone wrote to the club on behalf of this forum and stated the view of those who want safe standing in the Ninian Stand.

This would include pointing out that as customers (which is exactly what season ticket holders are) you would expect a choice as to where you can watch the game in a safe standing area.

Therefore there should be a standing area behind the goal (the Canton) and one pitchside (the Ninian). This would also help to eliminate any possibile flash points which could occur if cards were stopped or if the club ordered more overzealous stewarding.

Details would have to be thrashed out so that the standing areas didn't interfere with fans who wished to sit and watch the game (which is their right) but with the right attitude and good will from both sides it is doable.

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

I was just asking a question what's wrong with that?

Firstly, I prefer watching football from the side. If I have no choice (like at away games), then fair enough. However where I have the choice I much prefer the view I get from the Ninian than from the Canton.

Secondly, and people may disagree with this, I enjoy the atmosphere when being by the away fans. This has nothing to do with wanting trouble or anything, I do not. I just enjoy some of the back and forth that happens.

Agree with this. Nothing wrong with banter, the atmosphere is improved by this and people can't say it doesn't because it does at most football grounds.

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

how much pressure are SAG really putting on the club?? i dont believe its any wrse than all the other clubs with all seater stadiums..

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

how much pressure are SAG really putting on the club?? i dont believe its any wrse than all the other clubs with all seater stadiums..

Nor do I.

Like many of you i preferred the days when almost anything went at football matches haha and especially when 3 sides of the ground were for standing and singing (or at least 2)
But i'm afraid this battle to stand up in the ninian stand looks like one you're not gonna win. for one reason or another its seems like a lot of fans around want to sit down to watch the game. i suppose there isnt a lot the club can do about this if they're receiving complaints

My question is why dont you all come over to the canton stand. Its cheaper and i havent once been asked to sit down. I know this is not ideal for many of you but i believe we can create a better atmosphere if we were all in the canton stand.

Last year i went to watch Roma VS Lazio and all the noise comes from behind both goals (the curva's) the roma ultras were in the curva sud (south) and the lazio fans were in the curva nord (north) and the atmosphere was incredible! it really made the hairs on my neck stand up. I've been to a few other italian games and the same has applied the atmosphere has always come from behind the goal

I believe thiis can be replicated at cardiff and the ccs can become on of the loudest grounds in britain again.


Below is a video pre-match of roma vs lazio

http://www.youtube.com/user/ratmanyello ... NF4NLN8yGs

Because I dont like watching the match from behind the goal at home games, I have not done that since 1982 in the old Canton Stand. Since then I have watched City from the centre of the Bob Bank and then 7 years in the Upper Grandstand at Ninian Park Section A.The last seat in Section A to Section B.I like watching football from the side of the pitch. What is wrong with sections 116/117/118 being allowed to stand ? You are then left with most of the Ninian Stand sitting, Family section Sitting and the Grandstand sitting.

totally agree annis ive always been on the bob bank in the 80s and in the 90s mostly the grandstand lower i prefer watching from the sides not behind the goals. cant see why they cant make 116-117-118 standing or more tolerable to fans who stand to sing..

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

how much pressure are SAG really putting on the club?? i dont believe its any wrse than all the other clubs with all seater stadiums..

I dont think its any worse at all mate, why would it be

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

I was just asking a question what's wrong with that?

well my problem with you is you would blame world war 2 on cardiff stewards if you could
stewards work on their job description we complain very rarely
and to be honest when we do complain its normally ignored by the club
and the steward who does complain normally find their P45 in the post

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

how much pressure are SAG really putting on the club?? i dont believe its any wrse than all the other clubs with all seater stadiums..

no it probably isnt but the different issue with our stadium is we have gone from a stadium where a large amount of fans stood to where the vast majority are told to sit
the other difference is you fail to recognise the difference between persistent standing and standing through moments of excitement
in fact between 117 and 118 since my last briefing the club is only concerned about 4 people thats right 4 PEOPLE
where as the canton stand apart from the first couple of rows where the SAG have talked about the possibility of people invading the pitch from those rows you can stand all you want

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

I was just asking a question what's wrong with that?

well my problem with you is you would blame world war 2 on cardiff stewards if you could
stewards work on their job description we complain very rarely
and to be honest when we do complain its normally ignored by the club
and the steward who does complain normally find their P45 in the post

I think the above reply sums up exactly why you are not a fit and proper person to be a steward.

adam, send a letter of complaint to the club will be hilerious. wish we all could stand up because it DOES make a HUGE difference to the atmosphere. we do need to find an alternative but we are limited to what we can do

Perhaps the Trust can help us fans on this issue...?

Firstly, I prefer watching football from the side. If I have no choice (like at away games), then fair enough. However where I have the choice I much prefer the view I get from the Ninian than from the Canton.

Secondly, and people may disagree with this, I enjoy the atmosphere when being by the away fans. This has nothing to do with wanting trouble or anything, I do not. I just enjoy some of the back and forth that happens.

Agree with this. Nothing wrong with banter, the atmosphere is improved by this and people can't say it doesn't because it does at most football grounds.

Well Said

Like many of you i preferred the days when almost anything went at football matches haha and especially when 3 sides of the ground were for standing and singing (or at least 2)
But i'm afraid this battle to stand up in the ninian stand looks like one you're not gonna win. for one reason or another its seems like a lot of fans around want to sit down to watch the game. i suppose there isnt a lot the club can do about this if they're receiving complaints

My question is why dont you all come over to the canton stand. Its cheaper and i havent once been asked to sit down. I know this is not ideal for many of you but i believe we can create a better atmosphere if we were all in the canton stand.

Last year i went to watch Roma VS Lazio and all the noise comes from behind both goals (the curva's) the roma ultras were in the curva sud (south) and the lazio fans were in the curva nord (north) and the atmosphere was incredible! it really made the hairs on my neck stand up. I've been to a few other italian games and the same has applied the atmosphere has always come from behind the goal

I believe thiis can be replicated at cardiff and the ccs can become on of the loudest grounds in britain again.


Below is a video pre-match of roma vs lazio

http://www.youtube.com/user/ratmanyello ... NF4NLN8yGs

Because I dont like watching the match from behind the goal at home games, I have not done that since 1982 in the old Canton Stand. Since then I have watched City from the centre of the Bob Bank and then 7 years in the Upper Grandstand at Ninian Park Section A.The last seat in Section A to Section B.I like watching football from the side of the pitch. What is wrong with sections 116/117/118 being allowed to stand ? You are then left with most of the Ninian Stand sitting, Family section Sitting and the Grandstand sitting.

totally agree annis ive always been on the bob bank in the 80s and in the 90s mostly the grandstand lower i prefer watching from the sides not behind the goals. cant see why they cant make 116-117-118 standing or more tolerable to fans who stand to sing..

Personally I cant understand it.

Perhaps the Trust can help us fans on this issue...?

Should they also help fans from those blocks in the stand that contact them and want to sit in those blocks as is their right?

Like many of you i preferred the days when almost anything went at football matches haha and especially when 3 sides of the ground were for standing and singing (or at least 2)
But i'm afraid this battle to stand up in the ninian stand looks like one you're not gonna win. for one reason or another its seems like a lot of fans around want to sit down to watch the game. i suppose there isnt a lot the club can do about this if they're receiving complaints

My question is why dont you all come over to the canton stand. Its cheaper and i havent once been asked to sit down. I know this is not ideal for many of you but i believe we can create a better atmosphere if we were all in the canton stand.

Last year i went to watch Roma VS Lazio and all the noise comes from behind both goals (the curva's) the roma ultras were in the curva sud (south) and the lazio fans were in the curva nord (north) and the atmosphere was incredible! it really made the hairs on my neck stand up. I've been to a few other italian games and the same has applied the atmosphere has always come from behind the goal

I believe thiis can be replicated at cardiff and the ccs can become on of the loudest grounds in britain again.


Below is a video pre-match of roma vs lazio

http://www.youtube.com/user/ratmanyello ... NF4NLN8yGs

Because I dont like watching the match from behind the goal at home games, I have not done that since 1982 in the old Canton Stand. Since then I have watched City from the centre of the Bob Bank and then 7 years in the Upper Grandstand at Ninian Park Section A.The last seat in Section A to Section B.I like watching football from the side of the pitch. What is wrong with sections 116/117/118 being allowed to stand ? You are then left with most of the Ninian Stand sitting, Family section Sitting and the Grandstand sitting.

Spot on Annis. the old days of walking where you wanted. I always ended up middle Bob Bank late 80s, where a lot of the singing started from. times that will never be replicated.

I feel sorry for the newbies attending matches, they will never know what they missed, golden times.

I cant see why they cant have a standing section in the Ninian stand, say 20%. this will then stop all the problems, plus keep 80% of the Canton stand standing.

Like many of you i preferred the days when almost anything went at football matches haha and especially when 3 sides of the ground were for standing and singing (or at least 2)
But i'm afraid this battle to stand up in the ninian stand looks like one you're not gonna win. for one reason or another its seems like a lot of fans around want to sit down to watch the game. i suppose there isnt a lot the club can do about this if they're receiving complaints

My question is why dont you all come over to the canton stand. Its cheaper and i havent once been asked to sit down. I know this is not ideal for many of you but i believe we can create a better atmosphere if we were all in the canton stand.

Last year i went to watch Roma VS Lazio and all the noise comes from behind both goals (the curva's) the roma ultras were in the curva sud (south) and the lazio fans were in the curva nord (north) and the atmosphere was incredible! it really made the hairs on my neck stand up. I've been to a few other italian games and the same has applied the atmosphere has always come from behind the goal

I believe thiis can be replicated at cardiff and the ccs can become on of the loudest grounds in britain again.


Below is a video pre-match of roma vs lazio

http://www.youtube.com/user/ratmanyello ... NF4NLN8yGs

Because I dont like watching the match from behind the goal at home games, I have not done that since 1982 in the old Canton Stand. Since then I have watched City from the centre of the Bob Bank and then 7 years in the Upper Grandstand at Ninian Park Section A.The last seat in Section A to Section B.I like watching football from the side of the pitch. What is wrong with sections 116/117/118 being allowed to stand ? You are then left with most of the Ninian Stand sitting, Family section Sitting and the Grandstand sitting.

Spot on Annis. the old days of walking where you wanted. I always ended up middle Bob Bank late 80s, where a lot of the singing started from. times that will never be replicated.

I feel sorry for the newbies attending matches, they will never know what they missed, golden times.

I cant see why they cant have a standing section in the Ninian stand, say 20%. this will then stop all the problems, plus keep 80% of the Canton stand standing.

Yes sadly the good old days are gone forever, but I agree with you, whats wrong with 20% of the Ninian Stand being standing ?

Does anyone know what the complaints the club have received are about?

Are the complaints about standing in the Ninian and if so do the complaints come from other fans or stewards?

why would there be complaints from stewards stand sit makes no difference
but at the moment footballing policy
which isnt Cardiffs policy
its the SAG's policy and they are the ones putting the pressure on

I was just asking a question what's wrong with that?

well my problem with you is you would blame world war 2 on cardiff stewards if you could
stewards work on their job description we complain very rarely
and to be honest when we do complain its normally ignored by the club
and the steward who does complain normally find their P45 in the post

I think the above reply sums up exactly why you are not a fit and proper person to be a steward.

well id like you to explain that to me
every post you have ever written about stewards are so blinkered
stewards are scum
stewards are little hitlers
stewards must be blamed for absoloutly everything that could ever possibly go wrong
you refuse to budge from your stand point
you refuse to listen to any other persons point of view
which either makes you very young
or very ignorant
and im more than capable of being a steward
if you dont like it tough