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Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:47 pm

My Wife who has MS and has recently been laid off from her Job on ill health. Now suffers such bad disability she finds it very hard to walk and quite often she can hardly walk at all. But she has been basically told by the Disability and Carers service she is only entitled to the lowest disability of twenty quid a week. WTF if she was an Alky or drug addict she would be entitled to five times that rate :evil: . We even know a teenager who plays football has a mobility Car. It makes you fooking mad .
We are appealing as we do not agree with some things they have put down. But unless you are an out and out scrounger you ain't entitled to f**k all in this fucked up Country.

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:51 pm

That's why so many of us are now fit to burst. These w@nker bureaucrats are wrecking this country.

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:56 pm

Disgusting mate its always the genuine people who suffer, hope your appeal comes off best of luck to you both

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:28 pm

Good luck Steve with the appeal, This country is an embarrasment mate :evil:
Disgusting.

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:36 pm

Wish u all the best with your appeal, I would do exactly the same!!
Sorry to hear that matey!!

What is this country and so called policies coming to, fecking joke!!

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:42 pm

This country is getting worse and worse unless you are an asylum seeker. You appeal as much as you can. ATB. Reeco

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:43 pm

she should get something most defo.

i got cerbral palsy and have trouble walking, i work full time etc luckily. i do get dla but had to fight for it for years


so most defo appeal i no how hard it can be mate.


hope she sorts it out, as u say u got drink problem and drugs or pop out 8 kids u get loads of stuff, but if you disability they don't look at u .


good luck sir :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
and all the best to your wife

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:59 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:My Wife who has MS and has recently been laid off from her Job on ill health. Now suffers such bad disability she finds it very hard to walk and quite often she can hardly walk at all. But she has been basically told by the Disability and Carers service she is only entitled to the lowest disability of twenty quid a week. WTF if she was an Alky or drug addict she would be entitled to five times that rate :evil: . We even know a teenager who plays football has a mobility Car. It makes you fooking mad .
We are appealing as we do not agree with some things they have put down. But unless you are an out and out scrounger you ain't entitled to f**k all in this fucked up Country.

The same thing happened to my mother despite the fact that she has had both knees replaced & needs two walking sticks to get around :evil: So now she is basically house bound,we appealed but it got us no where despite her doctor & surgeon saying how bad her legs are,how about this goverment actually looks after its elderly and disabled instead of throwing money at others who dont deserve it !!!

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:58 pm

I would suggest getting in touch with the CAB mate - I have renal failure and have been told that I when I eventually go onto dialysis i will be on disability - get them to help with filling in the form, as they know the way to word it all correctly.

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:59 pm

Thanks for the replies. Yes we will fight on, Its just gets me when scroungers are a plenty round here driving around in flash Cars and i know the vast majority don't need them or have any disability. Do you know Kids with ADHD !! there parents are entitled to mobility Cars :o :evil: It isn't even a proven illness, with doctors disagreeing. I know one who is a little shit at school but used to do Karate with my boy. Did he ever misbehave at Karate ? Did he f**k!! it was because he knew if he didnt behave he would be thrown out. So he can behave :o :D But was he any good ? No because he was so docile with the drugs he took. But at School he was uncontrollable so in my view he was just fooking naughty
Whatever your views on ADHD there are proven illnesses which aren't as cool as ADHD so they get shat on. I read one article of a soldier who came back from Afghanistan minus his legs and was told by the bureaucrat's that he aint disabled enough.
Sorry folks still fuming,as the benefits my Wife would at least help a little as she can no longer work.

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:00 pm

Easilee wrote:I would suggest getting in touch with the CAB mate - I have renal failure and have been told that I when I eventually go onto dialysis i will be on disability - get them to help with filling in the form, as they know the way to word it all correctly.

Sorry mate what is CAB and where do we get that from ? Cheers Chief

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:05 pm

Citizens advice, give them a ring or pop in if your local one is still open

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:08 pm

Terrible mate :twisted: :twisted: ...A joke this Country is for hard working people...the spongers get everything :evil: ...Good luck to you and Cath in the appeal :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:08 pm

Of coarse it is :oops: . Yes will be booking an appointment with them :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:10 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Of coarse it is :oops: . Yes will be booking an appointment with them :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Nice one - good luck mate :ayatollah:

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:20 pm

Just carry on fighting.
Not sure how true it is, but in some areas the appeal success rate is somewhere around 50% which says a lot about how wrong the initial assessments can be.
Also, it is a sad fact that the current governments aim is to get as many people off benefits as possible. It doesn't matter if they are genuine cases or need the benefits or not, just as long as they get people off them. It is a disgrace.

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:38 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:My Wife who has MS and has recently been laid off from her Job on ill health. Now suffers such bad disability she finds it very hard to walk and quite often she can hardly walk at all. But she has been basically told by the Disability and Carers service she is only entitled to the lowest disability of twenty quid a week. WTF if she was an Alky or drug addict she would be entitled to five times that rate :evil: . We even know a teenager who plays football has a mobility Car. It makes you fooking mad .
We are appealing as we do not agree with some things they have put down. But unless you are an out and out scrounger you ain't entitled to f**k all in this fucked up Country.


Thats shite!
Another example how our society has gone to the pot
Decent people seem to take the brunt of all shit these days

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:36 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:My Wife who has MS and has recently been laid off from her Job on ill health. Now suffers such bad disability she finds it very hard to walk and quite often she can hardly walk at all. But she has been basically told by the Disability and Carers service she is only entitled to the lowest disability of twenty quid a week. WTF if she was an Alky or drug addict she would be entitled to five times that rate :evil: . We even know a teenager who plays football has a mobility Car. It makes you fooking mad .
We are appealing as we do not agree with some things they have put down. But unless you are an out and out scrounger you ain't entitled to f**k all in this fucked up Country.


Hi, sorry to hear about this, as you may know my wife had MS and recently passed away this year, we struggled to get DLA initially but did win the appeal. Best of luck in your appeal. This country is a mess :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:40 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:My Wife who has MS and has recently been laid off from her Job on ill health. Now suffers such bad disability she finds it very hard to walk and quite often she can hardly walk at all. But she has been basically told by the Disability and Carers service she is only entitled to the lowest disability of twenty quid a week. WTF if she was an Alky or drug addict she would be entitled to five times that rate :evil: . We even know a teenager who plays football has a mobility Car. It makes you fooking mad .
We are appealing as we do not agree with some things they have put down. But unless you are an out and out scrounger you ain't entitled to f**k all in this fucked up Country.


Hi, sorry to hear about this, as you may know my wife had MS and recently passed away this year, we struggled to get DLA initially but did win the appeal. Best of luck in your appeal. This country is a mess :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Sorry to hear about your Wife and hope you are managing. Thoughts are with you mate.

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:51 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:My Wife who has MS and has recently been laid off from her Job on ill health. Now suffers such bad disability she finds it very hard to walk and quite often she can hardly walk at all. But she has been basically told by the Disability and Carers service she is only entitled to the lowest disability of twenty quid a week. WTF if she was an Alky or drug addict she would be entitled to five times that rate :evil: . We even know a teenager who plays football has a mobility Car. It makes you fooking mad .
We are appealing as we do not agree with some things they have put down. But unless you are an out and out scrounger you ain't entitled to f**k all in this fucked up Country.


Hi, sorry to hear about this, as you may know my wife had MS and recently passed away this year, we struggled to get DLA initially but did win the appeal. Best of luck in your appeal. This country is a mess :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Sorry to hear about your Wife and hope you are managing. Thoughts are with you mate.


Cheers mate we won the appeal and they had to back date for 11 months, hope your successfull

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:36 pm

Makes my blood boil this subject. they are clamping down on the wrong people ffs.

My missus uncle and auntie both claim disability and claim carers allowance for EACH OTHER.

If your disabled and need a carer how the f**k can you be a carer????

They have holidays abroad, weekends away, they even part own a holiday caravan!!!"

Makes me f*cking mad

Re: Absolutely fuming !!

Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:50 am

good luck fellow.keep your chin up.hope you win the appeal.some mad laws in this country

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Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:41 am

your have a pm

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Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:02 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:your have a pm

And now so do you :lol:

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Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:09 am

NB, the situation at the moment is they don't want to take new claims and will turn almost everyone down. There are people dieing of cancer being turned down and when you consider that the appeals process can take 2 years with at least 18 months, those people are likely to be dead by the time their cases are heard.

The trouble is there are too many people on this benefit that need taking off it to make room for the new genuine cases. This government promised to retest all the ones claiming at the mmoent but I've not seen any evidence of that yet. I know people who have never worked and their claims are still going on. There's one couple by me who park their mobility car outside my house even though they live in the next street. Now if they can freely walk back and fore to the car in the next street, how the hell are they immobile? Truth is there is nothing wrong with either of them. They seem fine to spend most of the summer in their holiday home.
I'm not medically qualified but I could write off most of them just by sitting in Tesco's car park waiting for them to park in the disabled sections. The point being that if they can freely walk around a big supermarket (which to be fair means walking at least 1 mile all together if you walk up and down each part) then you really do not need a mobility car, simple as that.

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Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:29 am

Berwyn wrote:NB, the situation at the moment is they don't want to take new claims and will turn almost everyone down. There are people dieing of cancer being turned down and when you consider that the appeals process can take 2 years with at least 18 months, those people are likely to be dead by the time their cases are heard.

The trouble is there are too many people on this benefit that need taking off it to make room for the new genuine cases. This government promised to retest all the ones claiming at the mmoent but I've not seen any evidence of that yet. I know people who have never worked and their claims are still going on. There's one couple by me who park their mobility car outside my house even though they live in the next street. Now if they can freely walk back and fore to the car in the next street, how the hell are they immobile? Truth is there is nothing wrong with either of them. They seem fine to spend most of the summer in their holiday home.
I'm not medically qualified but I could write off most of them just by sitting in Tesco's car park waiting for them to park in the disabled sections. The point being that if they can freely walk around a big supermarket (which to be fair means walking at least 1 mile all together if you walk up and down each part) then you really do not need a mobility car, simple as that.

The sad thing is you are right. But some things they have given us reasons for as to why she was turned down are made up and certainly not true :o Yes they were given out like smarties and those that already have them fraudulently may i say will continue to get them :evil:

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Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:20 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
Berwyn wrote:NB, the situation at the moment is they don't want to take new claims and will turn almost everyone down. There are people dieing of cancer being turned down and when you consider that the appeals process can take 2 years with at least 18 months, those people are likely to be dead by the time their cases are heard.

The trouble is there are too many people on this benefit that need taking off it to make room for the new genuine cases. This government promised to retest all the ones claiming at the mmoent but I've not seen any evidence of that yet. I know people who have never worked and their claims are still going on. There's one couple by me who park their mobility car outside my house even though they live in the next street. Now if they can freely walk back and fore to the car in the next street, how the hell are they immobile? Truth is there is nothing wrong with either of them. They seem fine to spend most of the summer in their holiday home.
I'm not medically qualified but I could write off most of them just by sitting in Tesco's car park waiting for them to park in the disabled sections. The point being that if they can freely walk around a big supermarket (which to be fair means walking at least 1 mile all together if you walk up and down each part) then you really do not need a mobility car, simple as that.

The sad thing is you are right. But some things they have given us reasons for as to why she was turned down are made up and certainly not true :o Yes they were given out like smarties and those that already have them fraudulently may i say will continue to get them :evil:



The only advice I can give mate is don't just wait for the appeal to come through because it will take about 2 years. I think after about 3 months you can apply again so do that and let it run alongside the appeal. If they want to turn you down at least don't make it easy for them. It might also help if you contacted a MS group, of which there must be plenty. Being part of a group like that could put pressure on the decision makers. Also there are plenty of lawyers who specialise in these benefits.

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Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:45 pm

Nukes best bet is to speak directly to your local DWP office , assuming you havnt already , then they will assess your Mrs and tell you exactly what she can claim for .

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Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:19 pm

Martyn,I mean no offence all as I know your post was well meaning but the DWP is absolutely the last place to go for advice on this.It has been proven that most of the staff know very little about the pitfalls of applying for diability beifit or incapacity benifit let alone the system that is replacing all these types of benifits.I can't streess enough its about knowing what to put down on the form and just as important how to put it.The other thing that people need to understand is that the whole system has been turned on its head.What I mean is the new system assesses your ability to work and not how sick/disabled you are.A small but very misunderstood point you may think but many many people that deserve the benifits are failling because they didn't take the correct advice and fill in the form correctly.

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Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:48 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:Martyn,I mean no offence all as I know your post was well meaning but the DWP is absolutely the last place to go for advice on this.It has been proven that most of the staff know very little about the pitfalls of applying for diability beifit or incapacity benifit let alone the system that is replacing all these types of benifits.I can't streess enough its about knowing what to put down on the form and just as important how to put it.The other thing that people need to understand is that the whole system has been turned on its head.What I mean is the new system assesses your ability to work and not how sick/disabled you are.A small but very misunderstood point you may think but many many people that deserve the benifits are failling because they didn't take the correct advice and fill in the form correctly.


You are absolutely right. It doesn't matter what the illness etc is, it's all about what you put on the form. It's a fact that if a zombie straight from Night of the Living Dead were to apply then he'd not get the benefit. Simply because the zombie can walk and can raise his arms etc. The fact that the zombie is dead wouldn't make any difference to the decision maker, that's how crazy the system is. It's a silly tick box system and you have to know which boxes tick, if you don't then you don't get it no matter how ill you are. Common sence doesn't come in to it.