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WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:58 pm

Prove me wrong:

http://www2.premierleague.com/content/p ... urope.html

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:10 am

Do I hate it when someone beats you to it.

One day I might get a sticky on here......excluding my match reports. :mrgreen:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:39 am

Bakedalasker wrote:Prove me wrong:

http://www2.premierleague.com/content/p ... urope.html


Ok, I'll prove you wrong. Liverpool did not qualify for the Europa league this year because of their league position. If the same thing happens next year and they beat you in the carling cup final, then you will not qualify! ;)

However, I do hope you go on and fuckin win it anyway chaps! :ayatollah:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:43 am

64JACK wrote:


Ok, I'll prove you wrong. Liverpool did not qualify for the Europa league this year because of their league position. If the same thing happens next year and they beat you in the carling cup final, then you will not qualify! ;)

However, I do hope you go on and fuckin win it anyway chaps! :ayatollah:


So what have last years rules got to do with this years rules?
Last season Cardiff City had 7 subs, this year 5 :roll:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:01 am

2blue2handle wrote:
64JACK wrote:


Ok, I'll prove you wrong. Liverpool did not qualify for the Europa league this year because of their league position. If the same thing happens next year and they beat you in the carling cup final, then you will not qualify! ;)

However, I do hope you go on and fuckin win it anyway chaps! :ayatollah:


So what have last years rules got to do with this years rules?
Last season Cardiff City had 7 subs, this year 5 :roll:


:roll: It's nothing to do with last years results or rules! Just that if Liverpool beat you in the final, and fail once again through their league position, then they will qualify as carling cup winners! :P

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:00 am

When we got the the FA cup final UEFA stepped in and said even though we play under the FAW we would get a Europa cup place in we WON the competition. Do you think they would do the same for a runner up if we were losing finalists??? Doubtful??

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:53 am

Ian

Matt Garbutt insists the link is wrong and that the only way we qualify for Europe is by winning it. Suppose it needs some clarification from the FA :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:19 am

Bakedalasker wrote:Prove me wrong:

http://www2.premierleague.com/content/p ... urope.html



im pretty sure that is wrong, its correct for the FA cup but not for the league cup

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:32 am

Im pretty sure your wrong Iain. Fa said this week - If both FA Cup finalists qualify for Europe by other means, an extra place goes to the next highest place in the league. As for the League Cup, runners-up get nothing, except runners-up medals.

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:33 am

Double G wrote:Im pretty sure your wrong Iain. Fa said this week - If both FA Cup finalists qualify for Europe by other means, an extra place goes to the next highest place in the league. As for the League Cup, runners-up get nothing, except runners-up medals.



yup correct

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:46 am

Where and when did FA " say this week" Liink ?

Why would they make such a glaring mistake on their website

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:29 am

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/st ... on?cc=5739

Good article above about the change in Europa League Qualification in 2009 and the impact it had on the Premier League last season.

Right at the bottom it does say "Whether finishing sixth in the league can be deemed better than being runners-up in the FA Cup is open to debate. The Carling Cup has, quite rightly, never offered a route into Europe for losing finalists, but the FA Cup surely still has the stature to command a place for both finalists."

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:49 am

64JACK wrote:



Ok, I'll prove you wrong. Liverpool did not qualify for the Europa league this year because of their league position. If the same thing happens next year and they beat you in the carling cup final, then you will not qualify! ;)

However, I do hope you go on and fuckin win it anyway chaps! :ayatollah:


True but I can see Liverpool getting a place in Europe by their league position. Also I can see man c beating them in the semis

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:30 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Do I hate it when someone beats you to it.

One day I might get a sticky on here......excluding my match reports. :mrgreen:

:lol:

Ian, you get a sticky every week for quality match reports. :ayatollah:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:34 pm

I have heard it goes to the 7th placed premier league team. Is this true fellas?

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:38 pm

Clash wrote:I have heard it goes to the 7th placed premier league team. Is this true fellas?



I have heard we will qualify as losing finalists :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:41 pm

No Welsh club will qualify for Europe under the English FA. Im sure thats a fact....... If we had WON the FA cup we would still not have been allowed into Europe. :cry:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Clash wrote:I have heard it goes to the 7th placed premier league team. Is this true fellas?



I have heard we will qualify as losing finalists :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



annis

we would have to win the league cup to qualify for europe.
all this talk of the final is tempting fate anyway because i would rather we concentrate on the league than get distracted by thoughts of wembley

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:44 pm

steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Clash wrote:I have heard it goes to the 7th placed premier league team. Is this true fellas?



I have heard we will qualify as losing finalists :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



annis

we would have to win the league cup to qualify for europe.
all this talk of the final is tempting fate anyway because i would rather we concentrate on the league than get distracted by thoughts of wembley


Steve, but if say Man City or Liverpool qualify through the league, I was told we would def take the place if we lost in the final.
I have just said in another thread, the league is our main priority. :ayatollah:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:49 pm

This is what happened when we were in the FA cup....... has anything changed??

Our position remains unchanged and should Cardiff win the FA Cup this season they would not be chosen as the FA’s nomination for European competition.

Cardiff enter into English domestic competitions on this understanding and they are fully aware of the rules and regulations under which they take part.

These rules remain the same and there would be no scope for Cardiff, or any of the other Welsh clubs in the English system, to qualify for Europe as England’s representative

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:49 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Clash wrote:I have heard it goes to the 7th placed premier league team. Is this true fellas?



I have heard we will qualify as losing finalists :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



annis

we would have to win the league cup to qualify for europe.
all this talk of the final is tempting fate anyway because i would rather we concentrate on the league than get distracted by thoughts of wembley


Steve, but if say Man City or Liverpool qualify through the league, I was told we would def take the place if we lost in the final.
I have just said in another thread, the league is our main priority. :ayatollah:



unfortnately annis if that happened they would put the next team in the highest position in the premier league into the europa cup.
the fa cup rules and league cup rules differ in that respect.

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:50 pm

steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Clash wrote:I have heard it goes to the 7th placed premier league team. Is this true fellas?



I have heard we will qualify as losing finalists :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



annis

we would have to win the league cup to qualify for europe.
all this talk of the final is tempting fate anyway because i would rather we concentrate on the league than get distracted by thoughts of wembley


Steve, but if say Man City or Liverpool qualify through the league, I was told we would def take the place if we lost in the final.
I have just said in another thread, the league is our main priority. :ayatollah:



unfortnately annis if that happened they would put the next team in the highest position in the premier league into the europa cup.
the fa cup rules and league cup rules differ in that respect.



So your saying we def have to win it Steve. :cry:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:58 pm

definatly have to win it annis

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:02 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Clash wrote:I have heard it goes to the 7th placed premier league team. Is this true fellas?



I have heard we will qualify as losing finalists :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Yes if it was the FA Cup not in the Carling Cup though :cry:

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:21 pm

It clearly states the rules in the section

Should the FA Cup winners, runners-up (if applicable) and the Football League Cup winners already have qualified for Europe, their place goes to the next best placed clubs in the Premier League

Therefore, if we lose the final and Man City / Liverpool have qualified for Europe (which they obviously will), the place will go to to the Premier League

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:26 pm

The link that Bakedalasker posted has err changed!!!!

http://www2.premierleague.com/content/p ... urope.html

Now clearly!!! states we have to win it to qualify for Europe. Not as it said yesterday that we could qualify as losing finalists.

If it hadn't been for those pesky kids . . . . .

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:57 pm

Ruislip Blue wrote:The link that Bakedalasker posted has err changed!!!!

http://www2.premierleague.com/content/p ... urope.html

Now clearly!!! states we have to win it to qualify for Europe. Not as it said yesterday that we could qualify as losing finalists.

If it hadn't been for those pesky kids . . . . .


Uh yes it has. :x

Re: WE GET TO THE FINAL WE ARE IN EUROPE

Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:15 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Ruislip Blue wrote:The link that Bakedalasker posted has err changed!!!!

http://www2.premierleague.com/content/p ... urope.html

Now clearly!!! states we have to win it to qualify for Europe. Not as it said yesterday that we could qualify as losing finalists.

If it hadn't been for those pesky kids . . . . .


Uh yes it has. :x


Why??????????????? :evil: :evil: