Anti Hudson

Not so many anti-hudon threads this week eh?

Yes he may lack pace but what player in the championship is perfect at every aspect of the game?

Give me someone who reads the game well, throws his body on the line every time, and gets in a huge amount of blocks that Hudson does than someone with speed, who cannot read the game.

Him and Turner could develop into a good partnership.

Not so many anti-hudon threads this week eh?

Yes he may lack pace but what player in the championship is perfect at every aspect of the game?

Give me someone who reads the game well, throws his body on the line every time, and gets in a huge amount of blocks that Hudson does than someone with speed, who cannot read the game.

Him and Turner could develop into a good partnership.

Polo, I have never been one, I have always maintained he is slow, but a quality defender, he was every where on Saturday.
He always gives 100%.

Not so many anti-hudon threads this week eh?

Yes he may lack pace but what player in the championship is perfect at every aspect of the game?

Give me someone who reads the game well, throws his body on the line every time, and gets in a huge amount of blocks that Hudson does than someone with speed, who cannot read the game.

Him and Turner could develop into a good partnership.

Polo, I have never been one, I have always maintained he is slow, but a quality defender, he was every where on Saturday.
He always gives 100%.

Can never question his commitment, he always gives 100%, and never hid even when the boo boys were on his back 1st season.

I dont know him but there was a thread on here last week saying he is an absolute top bloke, and well respected within the squad.

Sometimes a good captain isnt always the most vocal player in the squad, you can lead in other ways.

Not so many anti-hudon threads this week eh?

Yes he may lack pace but what player in the championship is perfect at every aspect of the game?

Give me someone who reads the game well, throws his body on the line every time, and gets in a huge amount of blocks that Hudson does than someone with speed, who cannot read the game.

Him and Turner could develop into a good partnership.

Polo, I have never been one, I have always maintained he is slow, but a quality defender, he was every where on Saturday.
He always gives 100%.

Can never question his commitment, he always gives 100%, and never hid even when the boo boys were on his back 1st season.

I dont know him but there was a thread on here last week saying he is an absolute top bloke, and well respected within the squad.

Sometimes a good captain isnt always the most vocal player in the squad, you can lead in other ways.

Met him a few times, yes top bloke and gives his all.

Big question is though....how long is he in the shower

Mark Hudson is indeed a top bloke. Met him a couple of years ago when some City players came into Velindre hospital just before Christmas. The lads were all very good, to be honest, but Hudson stood out. Very friendly and sociable. He is also very good before and after games, signing autographs and having his photo taken with fans. My niece had her photo taken with him a year or so back.

Always gives 100%, good captain. Lets hope that this new partnership with Ben Turner turns out to be the right combination. Only one goal conceeded in the last three games, and two clean sheets

He gets turned and left flat-footed too often when left one-on-one.
Pace doesnt come into it, and with the amount of games under his belt
you'd hope his reading of the game would be bloody good by now. That
comes with experience. But two clean sheets could turn into three/four
so im not going to slag the feller off, right now him and Turner are in
the Centre-Back slots, only a complete c**t could be sat crossing their
fingers waiting for a Cardiff City player to make a mistake so they can
prove themselves right. Plus. that eye-injury was scary.. he ignored it
and that takes heart. Which is allegedly all we ask for in a player???

Crack on Captain!

The thing is with hudson yes he was quality saturday and could well be quality a week saturday but u always know a catastrophic error is never far away

I think people sometimes fail to grasp the fact we are still a Championship club and we don't have the ability to sign a Fabio Cannavaro or Nemanja Vidic. We do have to settle for players with weaknesses which is why they are Championship and not Premiership. I've been won over by Hudson ever since he turned his form around despite being ridiculed every week. He's got my respect for that. I reckon he'd be better without the captaincy but he was immense on Saturday.

The thing is with hudson yes he was quality saturday and could well be quality a week saturday but u always know a catastrophic error is never far away

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

All I can think of was the pen when Mackail Smith tricked him. In fairness I beleive that was the first penalty he'd conceded for us in 80 games.

Hudson isn't quick, is a little flat footed at times, maybe could be more agrressive, but apart from that is a decent centre half at this level, which is why he's made nearly 300 appearances mainly at the top end of the table, bar one season with a desperate Charlton side.

Ben Turner is a better player again and personally I think these 2, along with our 2 very good full backs (especially if Taylor can stop the wingers getting crosses in as he did Saturday) can be the bedrock for better defensive performances and a much meaner goals against.

It was interesting to see Turner playing slightly deeper, it seemed to work he's a very strong lad and quite nimble for a big fella. IMHO he'll g on to be a very good centre half.

Watch the pair of them make me look a tw@t now at Reading

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

Shefflied United away.

I think people sometimes fail to grasp the fact we are still a Championship club and we don't have the ability to sign a Fabio Cannavaro or Nemanja Vidic. We do have to settle for players with weaknesses which is why they are Championship .

SPOT ON

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

Shefflied United away.

last season

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

Shefflied United away.

last season

First season he was with us actually. Perhaps the most classical error ever.

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

Shefflied United away.

last season

We won 2-0.

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

Shefflied United away.

last season

We won 2-0.

We won 4-3.

4 goals were scored in a3 minute spell. We took the lead through Bothroyd then from the KO Hudson ducks a simple header of which the Blades scored.

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

Shefflied United away.

last season

We won 2-0.

We won 4-3.

4 goals were scored in a3 minute spell. We took the lead through Bothroyd then from the KO Hudson ducks a simple header of which the Blades scored.

I remember that game didnt the blades have a goal dissallowed rite at the end?

4-3 games are usually full of crap defending and goalkeeping, so they don't really count. Much rather win 1-0, and keep a clean sheet. Proper football.

But the point is why should we have to put up with Hudson and his obvious weaknesses?

Centre back is where we are at our stongest depth wise.

What winds me up is why is it always trying someone else with Hudson instead of giving another partnership a chance to develop?

He was clearly a Jones blue eyes and for me it's probably the only blot on Malkys copybook he hasn't dropped him when in my opinion he should have come out a lot sooner than poor Gerrard did. Now the last two games he has looked very solid but should he have had the opportunity to have played so many consecutive games this season? I really can't see how when we are so spoilt in that area.

For the record I think Darcy should be in every week, he and Turner could be a great partnership with his pace to cover allowing Turner to dominate.

I think Keinan is very hard done by this season and should be next in line, with the exception of the Reading game he was one of the main reasons we made the play offs last season- plus his distribution is the best of all the centre backs.

Gerrard isn't far behind his aggression and enthusiasm is a big asset even if he is a bit flat footed.

So for me Hudson should be behind Gerrard as 5th choice centre back, do I think he is shite? No but he is nothing more than an average championship centre back, he is so slow he goes backwards and gets outmuscled too easily, so quite why he is always in the side and club captain is a mystery to me

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

Shefflied United away.

last season

We won 2-0.

We won 4-3.

4 goals were scored in a3 minute spell. We took the lead through Bothroyd then from the KO Hudson ducks a simple header of which the Blades scored.

I remember that game didnt the blades have a goal dissallowed rite at the end?

Yep.

They scored a goal with about a minute of normal time left them threw the kitchen sink at us. Then they got the disallowed goal and I went on my knees with my head in my hands thinking why. That bloody goal music started playing as well. Then I looked up to see the guys around me cheering with big smiles on their faces. Then I stood up, heard the music stop and saw the referee book the guy who thought he had scored because he had taken his shirt off in celebration.

I laughed at that player and called him a right t**t because he thought he had scored. Uh, only seconds earlier I was on my knees in front of everyone in despair. How quick emotions can change.

That's the beauty of the game mate

The thing is with hudson yes he was quality saturday and could well be quality a week saturday but u always know a catastrophic error is never far away

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

All I can think of was the pen when Mackail Smith tricked him. In fairness I beleive that was the first penalty he'd conceded for us in 80 games.

Peterborough away about 4 weeks ago, where he stepped up to catch a player offside, who was in his own half and Leeds away only last week, where he allowed Snodgrass to get goal side of him and failed to get a toe in!

Forgot about his own goal in the Barnsley match 2 weeks ago!

The thing is with hudson yes he was quality saturday and could well be quality a week saturday but u always know a catastrophic error is never far away

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

All I can think of was the pen when Mackail Smith tricked him. In fairness I beleive that was the first penalty he'd conceded for us in 80 games.

Peterborough away about 4 weeks ago, where he stepped up to catch a player offside, who was in his own half and Leeds away only last week, where he allowed Snodgrass to get goal side of him and failed to get a toe in!

Pathetic. I simply cannot understand how you can obtain so much glee from one of the club's players making an error. tw*t!

The thing is with hudson yes he was quality saturday and could well be quality a week saturday but u always know a catastrophic error is never far away

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

All I can think of was the pen when Mackail Smith tricked him. In fairness I beleive that was the first penalty he'd conceded for us in 80 games.

Peterborough away about 4 weeks ago, where he stepped up to catch a player offside, who was in his own half and Leeds away only last week, where he allowed Snodgrass to get goal side of him and failed to get a toe in!

Pathetic. I simply cannot understand how you can obtain so much glee from one of the club's players making an error. tw*t!

Bit harsh calling yourself a tw*t , but I'm also entitled to my opinion and IMO, Keinan, Gerrard, Blake & Quinn are all better centre backs!

I take no pleasure in saying it, but count up how many points he'll have cost us by the end of the season!

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

Shefflied United away.

last season

We won 2-0.

We won 4-3.

4 goals were scored in a3 minute spell. We took the lead through Bothroyd then from the KO Hudson ducks a simple header of which the Blades scored.

We won 2-0 last season there.

The 4-3 was the year before that.

I Remember the goal clearly but that was neither this season nor last. Surely if he regularly makes errors you wouldnt have to go back 2 seasons to find one.

The thing is with hudson yes he was quality saturday and could well be quality a week saturday but u always know a catastrophic error is never far away

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

All I can think of was the pen when Mackail Smith tricked him. In fairness I beleive that was the first penalty he'd conceded for us in 80 games.

Peterborough away about 4 weeks ago, where he stepped up to catch a player offside, who was in his own half and Leeds away only last week, where he allowed Snodgrass to get goal side of him and failed to get a toe in!

Forgot about his own goal in the Barnsley match 2 weeks ago!

Come on, they aren't 'catestrophic' errors. The whole back 4 was caught out at Boro and the centre forward nipped in between him and Turner at Leeds. Hardly 'catestrophic' errors.

I'm thinking about examples like the goal Blake gave away against Leicester.

Clutching at straws.

I'm glad I amuse you

Quinn isn't even a CB! And I guess, you, like everyone else, have been convinced by Blake's performances for Wales, three of which were against three sides who only played one up front in Montenegro, England and Switzerland. And Bulgaria are hardly world beaters! "He marked Rooney out of the game, had him in his pocket, blah blah blah...." Well Rooney was up front on his own, he was isolated and received barely any support/service from his team-mates, which IMO rendered him pretty useless!

I'm a fan of Blake's and think that he's a good player, but I think some people overrate him, exactly like Gerrard!

Hudson
Turner
Keinan
Blake
Gerrard
Gyepes

The thing is with hudson yes he was quality saturday and could well be quality a week saturday but u always know a catastrophic error is never far away

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

All I can think of was the pen when Mackail Smith tricked him. In fairness I beleive that was the first penalty he'd conceded for us in 80 games.

Peterborough away about 4 weeks ago, where he stepped up to catch a player offside, who was in his own half and Leeds away only last week, where he allowed Snodgrass to get goal side of him and failed to get a toe in!

Forgot about his own goal in the Barnsley match 2 weeks ago!

Come on, they aren't 'catestrophic' errors. The whole back 4 was caught out at Boro and the centre forward nipped in between him and Turner at Leeds. Hardly 'catestrophic' errors.

It depends on what you class as Catastrophic! Hudson is the captain and leads the line, so as the organiser and captain, he's in charge! He chose to step up, having pushed the rest of the back four up to the half way line and was caught out! If the captain calls for the defence to play offside and he steps up and plays somebody onside, then surely he has to take responsibility!

If Turner or one of the other defenders had stayed back when Hudson had called them to get forward and they had played somebody onside, surely they would then take the blame!

The mistake at Peterborough cost us 2 points! Is this catastrophic? We won't know until the end of the season!

The thing is with hudson yes he was quality saturday and could well be quality a week saturday but u always know a catastrophic error is never far away

Go on then, name a 'catestrophic error' from the past couple f seasons ?

All I can think of was the pen when Mackail Smith tricked him. In fairness I beleive that was the first penalty he'd conceded for us in 80 games.

Peterborough away about 4 weeks ago, where he stepped up to catch a player offside, who was in his own half and Leeds away only last week, where he allowed Snodgrass to get goal side of him and failed to get a toe in!

Forgot about his own goal in the Barnsley match 2 weeks ago!

I'm thinking about examples like the goal Blake gave away against Leicester.

How many points did the Blake mistake cost us against Leicester? Hardly catastrophic if it doesn't cost us any points and we went on to win on penalties!

Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying that Blake is the answer here either, just that Hudson over the course of the season won't be either!

Hate to repeat myself, but our best 2 runs over the past 2 seasons, have been when Hudson has been out of the side injured!

I'm glad I amuse you

You don't amuse me one little bit, as I find your posts immature and nieve at best!

Why you get so offended when somebody gives their opinion of one of our players, I have no idea!

Quinn isn't even a CB!

Which is one of the points I was making!

Although he only had the one run out at centre back, when Gyepes got sent off against Leicester 2 seasons ago, he showed me enough, to see that he could be a better option than Hudson!

I could just as easily have said McNaughton though, as IMO, he's a better centre back than Hudson as well!

If we could find somebody to do McNaughton's job as effectively at full back, then Turner and Mac would probably be our best centre back pairing!

And I guess, you, like everyone else, have been convinced by Blake's performances for Wales, three of which were against three sides who only played one up front in Montenegro, England and Switzerland. And Bulgaria are hardly world beaters! "He marked Rooney out of the game, had him in his pocket, blah blah blah...." Well Rooney was up front on his own, he was isolated and received barely any support/service from his team-mates, which IMO rendered him pretty useless!

I'm a fan of Blake's and think that he's a good player, but I think some people overrate him, exactly like Gerrard!

Hudson
Turner
Keinan
Blake
Gerrard
Gyepes

I'm not convinced that any of our centre backs can play consistently well throughout the course of the season, although if we can keep Turner fit, then I believe that he's going to be immense for us!

All of our other centre back options have got certain failings, Gerrard is too headstrung, Kienan finished last season poorly and IMO, didn't start this season too clever either! Darcy certainly has his limitations, but I'd still like to see Gerrard, Keinan or Blake, having a run out alongside Turner, even if it's just to prove me and many others like me, wrong!

Contrary to your belief though, I won't gloat if I'm proved to be right!

Cant believe how deluded some people can be. We are a CHAMPIONSHIP football club of course our players are going to have certain failings. If they were perfect every ball they would be playing for the Uniteds and Barcas of this world.

Even then Messi doesnt convert every chance, Vidic doesnt make every tackle, thats football, you got to accept that mistakes happen.

As for Hudson costing us the points at Leeds is totally laughable, he cleared countless balls, and got in 2 goal stopping blocks, one a definite goal off Ross 1st half. He throws his body where some people wont throw their feet.

As for the goal, people forget Taylor didnt even jump for a ball he was 70/30 to win and the Leeds player flicked it on. Snodgrass was quicker to it then Hudson but thats football, you cannot win every challenge.

Some people need to get their head out of their arses.