ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

Today the Sun called one of the blokes after Chopra a thug for coming after him, for money owed to his bosses.

Are the money lenders in the right ?

Should Chopra pay up ?

ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

Today the Sun called one of the blokes after Chopra a thug for coming after him, for money owed to his bosses.

Are the money lenders in the right ?

Should Chopra pay up ?

Yes Chops should pay, but there should be protocol on collecting it.

Rules and regulations should be put into place for collection. Simples!!

No doubt you have once or twice had to pay a visit to encourage someone to pay a bill

Nothing wrong with that if its not too violent.

Why borrow from these sorts of people and then complain when it all goes wrong? If he had fallen on hard times financially due to no job or being made redundant then I could understand but he loaned money due to gambling. He has made his bed. I'm not condoning loan sharks but seriously, if you go into shark infested waters with warning flags about sharks being in the water, don't moan about it when you get bitten!

ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

Today the Sun called one of the blokes after Chopra a thug for coming after him, for money owed to his bosses.

Are the money lenders in the right ?

Should Chopra pay up ?

Annis the debt collectors went to the Ipswich training ground to demand their money back.

ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

Today the Sun called one of the blokes after Chopra a thug for coming after him, for money owed to his bosses.

Are the money lenders in the right ?

Should Chopra pay up ?

Annis the debt collectors went to the Ipswich training ground to demand their money back.

Why did you edit the last bit?

Why borrow from these sorts of people and then complain when it all goes wrong? If he had fallen on hard times financially due to no job or being made redundant then I could understand but he loaned money due to gambling. He has made his bed. I'm not condoning loan sharks but seriously, if you go into shark infested waters with warning flags about sharks being in the water, don't moan about it when you get bitten!

Steve
Spot on in my opinion

ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

Today the Sun called one of the blokes after Chopra a thug for coming after him, for money owed to his bosses.

Are the money lenders in the right ?

Should Chopra pay up ?

Annis the debt collectors went to the Ipswich training ground to demand their money back.

Once again correct Carlos.

ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

Today the Sun called one of the blokes after Chopra a thug for coming after him, for money owed to his bosses.

Are the money lenders in the right ?

Should Chopra pay up ?

Annis the debt collectors went to the Ipswich training ground to demand their money back.

Why did you edit the last bit?

Not worth the crap Bob tbh.

I thought if I say it everyone will want the name, then I get accused of destabilising and all that.

No doubt you have once or twice had to pay a visit to encourage someone to pay a bill

Nothing wrong with that if its not too violent.

Yes, but not money lending, not paying their rent.

ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

Today the Sun called one of the blokes after Chopra a thug for coming after him, for money owed to his bosses.

Are the money lenders in the right ?

Should Chopra pay up ?

Annis the debt collectors went to the Ipswich training ground to demand their money back.

Why did you edit the last bit?

Not worth the crap Bob tbh.

I thought if I say it everyone will want the name, then I get accused of destabilising and all that.

Fair comment,but i thought the dead wood had gone

ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

Today the Sun called one of the blokes after Chopra a thug for coming after him, for money owed to his bosses.

Are the money lenders in the right ?

Should Chopra pay up ?

Annis the debt collectors went to the Ipswich training ground to demand their money back.

Why did you edit the last bit?

Not worth the crap Bob tbh.

I thought if I say it everyone will want the name, then I get accused of destabilising and all that.

Fair comment,but i thought the dead wood had gone

No mate.

A few years ago when my wife(god rest her soul) was diagnosed with MS, I had to take unpaid leave to look after her. Unfortunately I got behind with payments, bailiffs were called and their tactics were appalling. No understanding of what we were going through. My daughters were only 6 and 8 at the time. It ended with me attacking them because of the way they were intimidating to us. I ended up serving 6 months ( I know I should have thought of my family), however the whole episode was so upsetting, and had a huge effect on our family. Luckily my family were able to look afte my wife and daughters.

Found this on the Ipswich fans forum from this morning ....

http://www.twtd.co.uk/news.php?storyid= ... blems#comm

The person who threatened Michael Chopra was a thug end of. If MC owed him or his associates money then there are legal proceedures which can be taken to recover the debt, including attachment of earnings, removal of goods or a charge placed against any property owned by the debtor.

I presume the person involved was someone of unsavoury standing who is not interested in doing things the correct way. But that again brings us back to the fact they are thugs and in the wrong. By demanding their debt via the use of violence, they are getting an unfair advantage over anyone else who is owed money by Michael Chopra, like a bank, electric company, mortage company, landlord or indeed an employer.

Whoever these people are I hope they never see a penny and are prosecuted for loan sharking and intimadation.

I find it hard to believe that Chopra was into Money lenders, to get to that level of debt/desperation surely he would have been declared bankrupt. Just another sub story from a player who wasted his talent.

I am not sure , but I dont think gambling debts are recoverable through the courts so bankruptcy isnt the answer.

The person who threatened Michael Chopra was a thug end of. If MC owed him or his associates money then there are legal proceedures which can be taken to recover the debt, including attachment of earnings, removal of goods or a charge placed against any property owned by the debtor.

I presume the person involved was someone of unsavoury standing who is not interested in doing things the correct way. But that again brings us back to the fact they are thugs and in the wrong. By demanding their debt via the use of violence, they are getting an unfair advantage over anyone else who is owed money by Michael Chopra, like a bank, electric company, mortage company, landlord or indeed an employer.

Whoever these people are I hope they never see a penny and are prosecuted for loan sharking and intimadation.

Agree!!!

I am not sure , but I dont think gambling debts are recoverable through the courts so bankruptcy isnt the answer.

Yes they are. Any kind of debt which can be proven is recoverable through the courts.

The exception would obviously be 'loan sharks' as they are not legal commercial money lenders.

I stand corrected oops!

Glad I'm not at Elland Rd, I would have been ejected

I am not sure , but I dont think gambling debts are recoverable through the courts so bankruptcy isnt the answer.

Yes they are. Any kind of debt which can be proven is recoverable through the courts.

The exception would obviously be 'loan sharks' as they are not legal commercial money lenders.

Unless the laws changed recently gambling debts are not recoverable in law,however if chops took out a loan with with a licenced broker to fund his gambling then thats different.

In an ideal world yes Chopra should pay up. It's obviously his own fault, but feel for the man. We've all been skint, but have any of us been put through what he has? Not nice, I would imagine.

ARE THEY THUGS and ARE THEY IN THE RIGHT ?

Today the Sun called one of the blokes after Chopra a thug for coming after him, for money owed to his bosses.

Are the money lenders in the right ?

Should Chopra pay up ?

there is never anything right about illegal threats
if chopra cant pay his debts go to court
take his house bankrupt him
the problem with these people is they dont want to you to be out of debt because then they have no excuse to squeeze you of every penny you have

1 Its not a debt run up through having to chose between eating and paying the bills its gambling debt

2 He can well afford IT !

3 No question Yes he should pay what he owes

It happened to John Harston at Celtic training ground , think it was when he was divorcing his wife and his car was taken away ? Celtic offloaded him to WBA not long after on a free transfer !

Chopra knew he was playing with fire by lending of loan sharks, he hasn't paid and he got burned.....end of! Yes they are thugs, so why did chops use them, probably because his bank put a stop on his account due to excessive mis-use, or he couldnt get a loan from a normal place (where they use courts to regain money) his own fault.

In an ideal world yes Chopra should pay up. It's obviously his own fault, but feel for the man. We've all been skint, but have any of us been put through what he has? Not nice, I would imagine.

What hes been through?

Jeez he earns 20k a week he can get back on the straight and narrow with a little help.

Ive lost 6k in last two years alone through a roullette addiction (which im battling to keep the better of), and probably lost 20k since I started gambling 10 years ago, which is approx a years salary after tax, I sorted myself out but its gonna take me next few years to pay off my loans taken to cover the debt.

Theres people with regular jobs around the country, working for a living, and still not having enough to support their families, they end up borrowing off loan sharks, as they cannot see a way out and thats a much worse situation to be in than Chopra.

I feel for him cos I know how hard it is to kick but theres people a million times worse off than Chopra.

He should pay whats owed. A debts a debt. Simple as that.

He would have known what type of people he was dealing with. Hes not daft, hes as streetwise as they come.

They are thugs, but they would probably admit that themselves, because if they wasnt thugs they wouldnt get that line of work.

They are in the right!!

Chopra would have been aware of what he was getting himself into, they are running a business and like us all cash is king

im just glad the club offloaded him when they did,imagine the problems behind the scenes if chops was still with us.

replacing the likes of michael chopra and jay bothroyd(admitedly highly accomplished footballers) with the gunnarssons and cowies of the footballing world,young hungry players desperate to play at the highest level was the best thing to happen for the future of cardiff city