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uefa place

Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:31 pm

does anybody know if we will get the uefa place if we end up in the semis with chelsea. man u and man city ,as these would probably have all ready qualified for europe and the carling cup spot woukd be up for grabs for the next team down the chain.

Re: uefa place

Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:32 pm

marky1927 wrote:does anybody know if we will get the uefa place if we end up in the semis with chelsea. man u and man city ,as these would probably have all ready qualified for europe and the carling cup spot woukd be up for grabs for the next team down the chain.

You have to win the cup to get a European spot and if the eventual winners have qualified for Champions League then the place is given to the next lowest side in the Premier League.

Only in the FA Cup does the rule apply that the runners up get the European spot.

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:24 am

With the Carling Cup is it down to the FA or Football League to put a team forward for europe as it's a Football League not FA competition?

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:01 am

HirwaunBluebird87 wrote:With the Carling Cup is it down to the FA or Football League to put a team forward for europe as it's a Football League not FA competition?

its down to the FA and its only the WINNERS that get a Europa League spot. Its only an option if we also get promoted in my opinion.....

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:15 am

the bigger question is would we get the spot if we did win the carling cup
dont forget the issue we had at the fa cup final with the FA saying we would not play in europe regardless of the result

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:22 am

JONNY012697 wrote:the bigger question is would we get the spot if we did win the carling cup
dont forget the issue we had at the fa cup final with the FA saying we would not play in europe regardless of the result

Uefa would have to get involved surely.

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:58 am

Why aren't we allowed in europe if we win a cup?
Derry City play for Rep Ireland when they are from N Ireland. Barcelona represent spain even though they are from catalonia etc etc.
Ok - so these my not be exactly the same to those who want to pick holes. But they are precedents that mean we should be allowed.

How many thousands of pounds have our fans put into the coffers of english clubs while on our travels??? They can't cherrypick FFS

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:00 am

lol, no point in even talking about it, we are not going to win the cup :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:38 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:lol, no point in even talking about it, we are not going to win the cup :lol: :lol: :lol:


:roll: Some people, eh. :lol:

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:03 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:the bigger question is would we get the spot if we did win the carling cup
dont forget the issue we had at the fa cup final with the FA saying we would not play in europe regardless of the result


It was agreed that we would have been in Europe had we won the FA Cup.

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:34 pm

maccydee wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:the bigger question is would we get the spot if we did win the carling cup
dont forget the issue we had at the fa cup final with the FA saying we would not play in europe regardless of the result


It was agreed that we would have been in Europe had we won the FA Cup.


but wasnt that down to uefa intervention after the fa said no
why do we need special dispensation
and if we do need these involvements whats the point in competing in the fa cup and carling cup

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:05 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:the bigger question is would we get the spot if we did win the carling cup
dont forget the issue we had at the fa cup final with the FA saying we would not play in europe regardless of the result


It was agreed that we would have been in Europe had we won the FA Cup.


but wasnt that down to uefa intervention after the fa said no
why do we need special dispensation
and if we do need these involvements whats the point in competing in the fa cup and carling cup

to win trophies and have some decent games and trips. you think everyone who competes in these cups are only doin it as they can play in europe if they win. its good enough to win the trophy to be fair.

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:06 pm

Didn't realise this :(
Thinking about it I remember from previous seasons now.

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:11 pm

a horse with no name wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:the bigger question is would we get the spot if we did win the carling cup
dont forget the issue we had at the fa cup final with the FA saying we would not play in europe regardless of the result


It was agreed that we would have been in Europe had we won the FA Cup.


but wasnt that down to uefa intervention after the fa said no
why do we need special dispensation
and if we do need these involvements whats the point in competing in the fa cup and carling cup

to win trophies and have some decent games and trips. you think everyone who competes in these cups are only doin it as they can play in europe if they win. its good enough to win the trophy to be fair.


yes silverware is great you wont see me complain about that
but isnt it a kick in the teeth when you cant take all the spoils because your not an english team

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:16 pm

English FA said it was fine if we won the cup? I'm sure they did.

I have no doubt we would qualify if we won it.
Unless we tried via the welsh cup, then we have no right to.

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:26 pm

2blue2handle wrote:English FA said it was fine if we won the cup? I'm sure they did.

I have no doubt we would qualify if we won it.
Unless we tried via the welsh cup, then we have no right to.


no the FA said we would not compete in europe if we won the FA cup
UEFA intervened and said if Cardiff won the competition they would place us in europe despite what the fa says
and maybe we should start competing in the welsh cup for the european place

Re: uefa place

Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:13 pm

buckleys brewery wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:lol, no point in even talking about it, we are not going to win the cup :lol: :lol: :lol:


:roll: Some people, eh. :lol:


we will have to play either

liverpool
man utd
man city
chelsea
or arsenal over 2 legs ... its a bit of an unreal task, but the never the less.. not impossible if we draw home first and win by two goals

(.s) I'v dreamt we played liverpool in the latter stages of a cup 3 times this season :?

Re: uefa place

Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:58 am

ccfc_cotta wrote:
buckleys brewery wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:lol, no point in even talking about it, we are not going to win the cup :lol: :lol: :lol:


:roll: Some people, eh. :lol:


we will have to play either

liverpool
man utd
man city
chelsea
or arsenal over 2 legs ... its a bit of an unreal task, but the never the less.. not impossible if we draw home first and win by two goals

(.s) I'v dreamt we played liverpool in the latter stages of a cup 3 times this season :?



Or Palace