Fuming!

My fiance's mum just had her second cat killed in the last couple of weeks by two dogs (witnesses say pitbulls) that are running loose around the Penydarren area of Merthyr. Now say what you want about cats but they are a big part of people's lives and as I am sure any of you with cats, dogs or any kind of pet will know, they are part of the family. To lose the one cat was bad enough but this second cat has pushed the limit now.

Over the four years I've been with my fiance I'd grown really close to these two cats so I'm fuming.

Now it's an extreme situation but what if the cats were someone's baby or toddler. Apparently, these dogs have also killed someone else's rabbit and the owners have no control over them. If you see these dogs or know who owns them please inform the RSPCA. If you don't give a shit don't bother posting anything sarky or try to be funny. Just don't respond. I am sure there are the majority who can empathise with my rage on this. I don't blame the dogs, they don't know any better. I blame the owners who shouldn't be allowed to own another pet again.

Any help would be appreciated. Cheers.

From the Citizen's Advice Bureau:


Dog control

Dogs can be dangerous when they get out of control. If you are worried about a dangerous dog, you should contact the police. If there is an area where dogs are often a nuisance, you can tell your local authority. They can make local laws or, in England and Wales, a dog control order, to make owners keep dogs on leads in particular areas or to ban dogs from places like children's playgrounds.

You can get further information on dog control from the website at (New window) www.direct.gov.uk.

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Out of control dogs

Report a dangerous dog to your council's dog warden service
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It is an offence to allow a dog of any type or breed to be dangerously out of control:

in a public place - like a street, park, bus shelter or the common parts of a block of flats (like the entrance or stairs)
in a private place where the dog isn't allowed to be

Public areas also include fields, footpaths and beaches.
What is 'out of control'?

Your dog is dangerously out of control if it:

injures a person, or
behaves in a way that makes a person worried it might injure them - even if it's the dog owner's own home or garden

If you use your dog to injure someone you could be charged with 'malicious wounding'. The maximum penalty for this is five years in prison.
Other people's animals

A court could judge that your dog is dangerously out of control if:

it injures another person's animal
the owner of the animal thinks they could be injured if they tried to stop your dog attacking their animal

Fines for out-of-control dogs

Anyone can report a dog and their owner to the police.

If you are found guilty of having a dog that's out of control you may face a fine of up to £1000 and/or imprisonment. You may also not be allowed to own a dog in the future.

The law about out of control dogs is covered in section three of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991.

Dangerous dogs

Barking dogs

For information on barking dogs, see ‘Owning and caring for a dog’.

Owning and caring for a dog

Dog Control Orders

Local authorities in England and Wales have the power to issue Dog Control Orders. You should make yourself aware of any in your area. This might be different depending on which local authority looks after the area where you live.

Dog Control Orders mean that, in certain public areas, one or more of the rules below could apply:

keeping your dog on a lead
putting your dog on a lead when told to by the police, a police community support officer or someone authorised by the council
not letting your dog go onto land that they should not - like farmland or specific areas of a park
limiting the number of dogs you have with you at one time - 'professional' dog walkers are included
clearing up after your dog

You can find advice on training your dog in ‘Owning and caring for a dog’.

Dog fouling

Owning and caring for a dog

Private land

Dog Control Orders don’t apply to private land if you have permission from the owner of the land or the person who controls the land.
Fixed penalty notices and fines

An authorised officer or a police officer can issue a £50 on-the-spot fine ('fixed penalty notice'). If you go to court and are found guilty, you can be fined up to £1000.

Registered blind dog owners are exempt from penalties.

Fixed penalty notices and anti-social behaviour (crime and justice section)

Finding out about Dog Control orders

Councils must let the public know which areas are affected by Dog Control Orders. If they plan to put an order in place locally, they must first publish a 'notice' - normally in a local newspaper and the council's website. The order must include:

details of the area the order applies to
where you can see a map, if a map is referred to
an address or email you can contact to have your say - you should be given at least 28 days from the date of the notice

After the 28-day period, your local authority will decide whether or not to go ahead with the order or amend it. If there are a lot of changes to the original order, the process to publish the notice starts again with the same timescales.

Local councils

Knowing what land an order applies to

Your council should put up signs letting you know about planned orders. For example, if an order is made excluding dogs from a park. This should happen when the order is first made, after which permanent signs should be put up saying that dogs aren't allowed in the park.
Countryside Code

You should never let your dog walk in the same field as farm animals like sheep or cows. A farmer is allowed to kill your dog if it is worrying their livestock.

For more details about your responsibilities in the countryside, see ‘The Countryside Code’.

The Countryside Code (environment and greener living section)

It's only a McClane....

Zabier, don't pay attention to McClane. He is a syphillis ridden, decrepid prick.

I've had cats killed by loose dogs when I was young, and it is horrible. Having two in such a short space of time is horrific.

All you can really do is, as the guy above posted, is report it.

I should add, if anyone ever hurts any of my extended pet family, then I would f*cking torture them.

I have a 7 year old PUG dog
When he was 2 he was attacked by a cross between a Wippet and an American bull terrier which had got out of it's garden.
If it was not for the intervention of 2 police officers who helped my son to get the dog off he would certainly have been killed as it was we nearly lost him as he was well chewed up.
The police started proceedings under the dangerous dogs act but what really helped was getting the Evening post involved, we has pictures and close ups of the wounds published on several occasions as more stuff came out about the dog, the reporter hounded the owner.
It also came out the the dog had killed 2 cats (one in front of the cats owners daughter on their front lawn) and savaged a Jack Russell.
the dog was put down and the owner warned.
Get hold of the local paper the more publicity the better.....

get over it, only a poxy cat

If you were trying to make yourself look a prick, congratulations.

If you weren't trying to make yourself look a prick I think you need to be aware that, well, you look like a prick.

On the whole I hate cats, and I do know one pitbull, which is actually a lovely dog (because it has been brought up right).

Although I hate cats, I think it is both disgusting and horrific that this has happened, and I feel sorry for you, your fiancé and her mother.

It sounds like they need to be stopped, or else they could end up killing a baby or toddler. It sounds to me that (unfortunately) the dogs both need to be put down. The owners probably think it's funny, which truely is sick.

Unfortunately I have no idea how to help, however I do hope that the dogs are brought under control swiftly, for the good of everyone, and that the owners are punished.

Ignore the idiot that said "it's only a cat". He's pathetic. I'm no animal rights activist, but it's horrible that those cats have died in that way, and I hope that those dogs are stopped before something much worse happens (what if they got into a nursery playground at playtime?)

Best of luck.

Evil dogs hate them

Try infusing two large steaks with Anti Freeze then feeding the bastards
Greedy buggers wont resist it

My fiance's mum just had her second cat killed in the last couple of weeks by two dogs (witnesses say pitbulls) that are running loose around the Penydarren area of Merthyr. Now say what you want about cats but they are a big part of people's lives and as I am sure any of you with cats, dogs or any kind of pet will know, they are part of the family. To lose the one cat was bad enough but this second cat has pushed the limit now.

Over the four years I've been with my fiance I'd grown really close to these two cats so I'm fuming.

Now it's an extreme situation but what if the cats were someone's baby or toddler. Apparently, these dogs have also killed someone else's rabbit and the owners have no control over them. If you see these dogs or know who owns them please inform the RSPCA. If you don't give a shit don't bother posting anything sarky or try to be funny. Just don't respond. I am sure there are the majority who can empathise with my rage on this. I don't blame the dogs, they don't know any better. I blame the owners who shouldn't be allowed to own another pet again.

Any help would be appreciated. Cheers.

That is feckin terrible mate, lets hope they are found and put down soon..............

Thanks for the good words lads. They've reported the dogs to the warden. Unbelievably, (not sure if this is true or not but the person who reported the incident said this is what happened) the wardens have been following the dogs around on and off for a short while and were apparently "aware" of the dogs being loose yet never took them in because they weren't causing any problems!

Like I said, not sure if there is any truth to this because it is word of mouth. Just hope they can find them. Like I said, I understand it's not the dogs fault but hopefully they can find out who the pathetic owners are.

MCclane= complete wanker grow up you fool

Solution,Put The feking owners down!!!!!!!!!!!

don't blame the dogs............blame the owners. The dogs do what they do best be it aggression etc!
Hope you get over your loss soon, its awfull when a pet is killed.....lost mine after it got hit by a car - totally gutted

The amount of out of control Dogs is astounding and it is really disturbing. Some people know there Dogs are dangerous but still walk them without leads and muzzles. Years ago my Mrs was walking our dog he is a Staffy Cross and this big American Bulldog came round the Corner and saw our Dog which was right next to Cath and it charged at him. Our Dog thought it was heading for my Mrs and fought like crazy with him but the size difference was massive. He had our dog by the Shoulder and its owner a massive bloke according to Cath was smashing his dog and it took ages for him to let go. It was very upsetting for Cath she was hysterical. our dog needed several stitches in his shoulder but our Max at least gave that other Dog a very nasty gash round the eye. But its disgusting these animals are allowed to be in the hands of idiots.
And Mclain you are a stupid Prick you should of kept your thoughts to yourself. One time you will upset the wrong person on here and you will end up being battered. If i was a mod i would of banned you by now. Tosser.
Zabier i am really sorry for you and your Fiance's loss

The amount of out of control Dogs is astounding and it is really disturbing. Some people know there Dogs are dangerous but still walk them without leads and muzzles. Years ago my Mrs was walking our dog he is a Staffy Cross and this big American Bulldog came round the Corner and saw our Dog which was right next to Cath and it charged at him. Our Dog thought it was heading for my Mrs and fought like crazy with him but the size difference was massive. He had our dog by the Shoulder and its owner a massive bloke according to Cath was smashing his dog and it took ages for him to let go. It was very upsetting for Cath she was hysterical. our dog needed several stitches in his shoulder but our Max at least gave that other Dog a very nasty gash round the eye. But its disgusting these animals are allowed to be in the hands of idiots.
And Mclain you are a stupid Prick you should of kept your thoughts to yourself. One time you will upset the wrong person on here and you will end up being battered. If i was a mod i would of banned you by now. Tosser.
Zabier i am really sorry for you and your Fiance's loss

Sorry to hear that story Nukes. Sounds like your lad gave his lad a f*cking right go. Hope he's ok now? Thanks for your thoughtful words.

sorry to hear about the cats im also hear that again the dogs are claimed to be pit bull terriers . 99% of the time theres nothing near a pitbull terrier in its breed. prob staffy x something

They need to be rounded up and put down asap if there running around loose! Theres fukall to stop them dogs attackin some child in the street, if there running around tearing up cats then its only a matter of time before they end up sinkin there teeth into a kid, especialy if they are them inbread pitbull type dogs.. Theres a ban on pitbulls in the u.k anyway i think, dangerous dogs act etc!

Thats deplorable mate, I hope you all feel better soon. Letting any dog roam the streets is out of order, let alone dangerous dogs like this!

We've got a 4 month old Shih Tzu and it's a nightmare walking him around by us. So many meat heads with big dogs. Haven't had a bad experience yet, but I fear it wont be long until I do.

I don't see what the fascination is with these people needed dangerous dogs like this, it just makes them look even more chavvy and pathetic!

Solution,Put The feking owners down!!!!!!!!!!!

Its not the dogs fault but the owners but sonds as if thiers no way back for the dogs if they done it twice

Mclane you are muppet of the day mate

In defence of the dogs, and as horrible as this is to describe, they were tossing the cat between each other like it was a squeaky toy. That's how the neighbours described it. However, if they mistake a cat for a toy, who is to say it won't be a toddler or small child next? There's no hatred for the actual dogs here, just the owners.

A similar thing happened with a neighbours cat only a couple of weeks ago, it was torn apart by a another neighbours dog who had got out.

It is an awful thing to happen but I also feel for the dog who only has a back garden for excerise. If you must have a dog and live in a built up area then there is no excuse for having the more agressive breeds when there are plenty of smaller dogs which could be adopted.

That said I have to agree that it is very worrying that if such dogs can do this to cats, then a toddler or young child could well be the next target.

i had a similar problem last summer mate, my staff was about a year old and some stray jack russell came over to have a look at us, i could tell his vibe was off. it then launched at my dog gripped it by the head/neck and tried to shake it to death. i screamed by head off at it and was not going to put my fingers in there so booted the thing flying! it took a right hammering and was rolling around like god knows what and it broke my heart for weeks and weeks after because i cannot stand to see dogs mistreated but when you have a dog loose with no owner or even a collar, and it acts that way i was left in a position of my dog or that dog coming out possibly alive, so i was left with no choice. as others have said, that dog dosnt no morals or street code, its the owners repsonsibility to make sure it is indoors, or at least with a friggin collar on!

get over it, only a poxy cat

If you were trying to make yourself look a prick, congratulations.

If you weren't trying to make yourself look a prick I think you need to be aware that, well, you look like a prick.

Yes NERD, ever reliable

i had a similar problem last summer mate, my staff was about a year old and some stray jack russell came over to have a look at us, i could tell his vibe was off. it then launched at my dog gripped it by the head/neck and tried to shake it to death. i screamed by head off at it and was not going to put my fingers in there so booted the thing flying! it took a right hammering and was rolling around like god knows what and it broke my heart for weeks and weeks after because i cannot stand to see dogs mistreated but when you have a dog loose with no owner or even a collar, and it acts that way i was left in a position of my dog or that dog coming out possibly alive, so i was left with no choice. as others have said, that dog dosnt no morals or street code, its the owners repsonsibility to make sure it is indoors, or at least with a friggin collar on!

I don't think anyone can blame you for what you did mate. It's a horrible situation to be in but in a way you were protecting your family and we'd all have done the same in the heat of the moment.

i had a similar problem last summer mate, my staff was about a year old and some stray jack russell came over to have a look at us, i could tell his vibe was off. it then launched at my dog gripped it by the head/neck and tried to shake it to death. i screamed by head off at it and was not going to put my fingers in there so booted the thing flying! it took a right hammering and was rolling around like god knows what and it broke my heart for weeks and weeks after because i cannot stand to see dogs mistreated but when you have a dog loose with no owner or even a collar, and it acts that way i was left in a position of my dog or that dog coming out possibly alive, so i was left with no choice. as others have said, that dog dosnt no morals or street code, its the owners repsonsibility to make sure it is indoors, or at least with a friggin collar on!

Your Staffy should of eaten him alive Chief. Jack Russels are nasty but your Staffy should of seen it of. Mine at 8 Months saw off a 4 year old German Shepherd which was huge

A good cat would make a nice pair of fluffy slippers

haha i didnt want to say but it's a staff x pug. and its a little bender haha! its never ever even growled at another dog, which im extremely proud of, but at the same time means i have to step in if theres a problem!!

The amount of out of control Dogs is astounding and it is really disturbing. Some people know there Dogs are dangerous but still walk them without leads and muzzles. Years ago my Mrs was walking our dog he is a Staffy Cross and this big American Bulldog came round the Corner and saw our Dog which was right next to Cath and it charged at him. Our Dog thought it was heading for my Mrs and fought like crazy with him but the size difference was massive. He had our dog by the Shoulder and its owner a massive bloke according to Cath was smashing his dog and it took ages for him to let go. It was very upsetting for Cath she was hysterical. our dog needed several stitches in his shoulder but our Max at least gave that other Dog a very nasty gash round the eye. But its disgusting these animals are allowed to be in the hands of idiots.
And Mclain you are a stupid Prick you should of kept your thoughts to yourself. One time you will upset the wrong person on here and you will end up being battered. If i was a mod i would of banned you by now. Tosser.
Zabier i am really sorry for you and your Fiance's loss

It's not just that NB, it's the effect it has on your dog. We, as decent people, try to teach our dogs when they are out to interact with other dogs in a good way. Other chav's dog's coming over and attacking your dog makes your dog nervous and aware of them. I have a problem with a neighbours mut coming over to attach my small dog. It's a right pain and has caused ours to be very nervious of other normal dogs. Chav dogs should be put down along with their chav owners.

exactly mate, im SICK of walking down a street every day and because of the fact im covered in tattoos and have a 'staff' that im some sort of ASBO that shouldnt be allowed outside. the stereotyping is childish and thick! i never walk around looking for aggrevation and never let my dog greet someone who i can tell is not up for it, so that my dog has some sort of manners and knows he cannot go and hassle any person that walks by him and doesnt go around with an aggressive attitude towards everything. hes been attacked by dogs 3 times now and ive managed to convince him that they dont mean any harm and to my amazement he isnt phased whatsoever and still gets in dogs faces!