" How long will Malky's honeymoon last ? "

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Thoughts?

Neil, in my opinion the whole of this season at least, Well I will be backing Malky 100% this season no matter what, unless he was given £20 mill and wasted the lot

I will judge Malky at the end of this season and how he has managed our once again roller coaster ride

The great bollock scratcher had 6 years so why should Malkay Mackay get any less.

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

If I see a valid argument i'll agree with it, if not I call a spade, a spade in spades

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

Miller has scored against two of the best teams in this league, and MM has stated his importance as a leader off the pitch

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

Our defence may be our strongest position (It isn't) but that doesn't make it good. Our defensive lapses last season cost promotion (not Bothroyd as popular opinion states) bringing in Turner could well prove to solve that. Even if Miller and Turner are bad buys, that still gives MM a success rate of over 90% in signings this season, so thats well within the margin for error

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Because MM knew: Gestede, Miller and Earnshaw would all get injured, at the same time how exactly? He knew that Gethin would blunder transfers how exactly? Maybe the chance at Donny came up and it was a calculated risk, maybe in your opinion is backfired, but unless you expect to win or draw EVERY GAME then he's still come off very well.

Thoughts?

Yeah, Forrest and Reading are below us, Leicester are level on points despite spending stacks of money, and Ipswich, and Birmingham (Prev Prem team last year. All this with the smallest squad, smallest number of players used, smaller budget than last year under a brand new manager. Frankly the idea someone could say MM has done a bad job is perplexing.

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are

1) Miller on his day is a quality player and proved that against Southampton with his overall performance in the second half and don't forget he is now our joint top goalscorer in the league with 3 and both him and Earnie clearly don't work... not blaming Earnie on bit.

2) Our defensive record just speaks for itself... we've had a similar defence with one or two changes 2009-10 16 clean sheets out of 56 games, 2010-11 then 14 our of 52 games and now 3 in 13 i think (im good with numbers ). Not exactly the best and don't forget Turner is only 23 and has a bright future apparently.

3) I was disappointed about Parkin leaving and do disagree with it... but maybe it's best for Parkin as player and hopefully returns with some form.

Malky has done a class job and tbh hopefully one or two signings during the international break might help the side out after and obviously the players returning from injury. Look at the gems hes found over the summer... Conway, Cowie, Mason, Gunnarsson just to name a few. I always backed DJ and i'll back Mackay 100%

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

Lets check the validity of the points you raise below then eh?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

Miller was not a mistake. He has run his bollocks off playing in an unfamiliar role, the
shorter strikers are not best suited for the lone striker role, but he has battled on and
once he gets a more natural target man alongside him, he will score at least another
15 this season

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

If i was Frank Warren, would I turn down Manny Pacqiao if he'd had a broken hand and
wanted to come on board? NO.. I would put him through a rigorous medical to be
sure the injury is no longer a problem. Gerrard and Hudson are suspect, sorry, but they
are both prone to mistakes and just do not play well together. Malky obviously doesnt
rate Keinan or Gypes. Turner is a great signing.

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

As has been posted above. When Parkin left we DID have the four strikers you speak
of. Malky's only criminal offence there was in not buying a crystal ball. How the hell
was he to know he'd get THREE injured strikers at once. Parkin is a big earner, and a
poor player, he had to go.

Thoughts?

Thoughts... The only signing Malky has made that I dont agree with was Earnshaw, he is
just not up to it. But then again, he was on a free, and does not command a big wage, so
if Malky saw him as good cover, then I cant really fault it. Cos Earnie is still a pretty good
impact player.

so basically we are happy with your discussion but we all disagree on all your points

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Thoughts?

Maccydee your a nic guy after our meeting in a dodgy secluded car park....but still cant agree with any of the above sorry mate

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Thoughts?

You do realise malkey as had to bring in a new team plus staff? Your just being very picky and your the kind of person who will be making threads like malkey out after a few loses. Shocking support already.

Until the end of his contract.Three years, is it? Give the bloke a chance, for goodness sake. He's having to re-build a team.

Malky is doing a fantastic job...how anyone can criticise him amazes me..lets hope we can keep him.!

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

Although he hasn't been that good since joining you can see signs of what a quality player he could be, he's won us games against arguably the two strongest teams in the league and still has plenty of time to prove himself when he recovers from injury.

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

TBF most people were asking for another centre back for cover, add to that most people aren't quite sure what are best partnership is yet. Hudson and Gerrard don't work that well together IMO so Turner might add something new, I'll reserve judgement until he plays. I agree that he should have bought in another attacking player though I'm sure he's been looking for the right deal

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Before our injury crisis most people were praising shifting him off the age bill and saying he's not good enough. How was he to predict that all three of our strikers were set to get injured, we've just been incredibly unlucky in that department

Thoughts?

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Thoughts?

You do realise malkey as had to bring in a new team plus staff? Your just being very picky and your the kind of person who will be making threads like malkey out after a few loses. Shocking support already.

No I am not at all. I support the boys to the end, always. I never leave early. Stayed with DJ longer than anyone. All I am saying is that he has made a few mistakes and to not acknowledge them is silly. I will be behind and as I said I like his passion and how he carries himself at interviews. In Cowie we have a player worth a million easily for free so I am well happy with that. Gunnarsson is a great signing too I think.

However in my opinion he had little money and has wasted 1.5 million and a bit of that on Miller and Turner. How people can say Turner is a great signing is beyond me. You can only judge that after he has played a fair few games. Personally I rate Keinan very highly (as did a lot of people last year) and Gerrard was Hull's player of the year. Mason is not an out and out striker and certainly not a target man so even the 'useless' Parking would have been a better bet off the bench at Hull.

Plus Malky chose to bring in his own staff. He had staff, he wanted to change them. His choice.

I hope I am proven wrong with Miller. I will support him while he is wearing the blue (or white) but I feel it's a lot for a player who will have no sell on value whose best days are behind him.

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Thoughts?

Maccydee your a nic guy after our meeting in a dodgy secluded car park....but still cant agree with any of the above sorry mate

You chose the meeting point. I thought I saw some guy getting noshed. No wonder my windows were steamed up so much.

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Thoughts?

1. Miller is magic - he'll get better and better as we get more quality in - if we do that is!

2. Turner will be the best centre back we have seen here since Collins!

3. Parkins a donkey and Jones lost the plot, much like signing Taiwo.

Before the people who have a go at him aren't shot down despite the validity of their arguments?

I do find him impressive in his interviews and his passion shines through but in my opinion he has made 3 glaring errors.

1) Signing Kenny Miller for close to a million quid not to mention the wages he is commanding.

2) Signing a defender (who was injured) for 750k when defence is our strongest position for numbers and quality and when we were crying out for a winger and striker.

3) Letting Parkin out on loan leaving us criminally short of the 4 strikers that is the minimum you require in a squad with any aspirations of progress.

Thoughts?

perhaps malky has plans to bring in a striker to partner miller and if the right man comes in miller will hit 20 odd goals that wont be a glaring error.
the defender hes signed may come good so not an error yet
parkin simply not good enough and wasnt signed by malky and malky does not rate him so wants to try and get him from the club. not malkys error.

i dont think Malky is on any kind of honeymoon,i think there are many ,many fans watching to see what happens in this shutdown period,waiting to see how many if any new players he is going to bring in before the season starts again,im going to put my cards on the table and say he wont bring any in, simply because his hands are well and truly tied by the clubs owners and he will say the politically correct things,like he was on the phone burning the midnight oil,trying to sign players,when most of us know thats just saying things to give the the fans who are easily duped something to hang on to,im afraid our Malky is no Steve Mclaren.....like i always like to say time will prove me right or wrong

I dont know about anyone else and i speak only for myself when i say i am loving going to Football again. (I was falling out of love with the City under Jones) I love the passion and the never say die attitude.

i dont think Malky is on any kind of honeymoon,i think there are many ,many fans watching to see what happens in this shutdown period,waiting to see how many if any new players he is going to bring in before the season starts again,im going to put my cards on the table and say he wont bring any in, simply because his hands are well and truly tied by the clubs owners and he will say the politically correct things,like he was on the phone burning the midnight oil,trying to sign players,when most of us know thats just saying things to give the the fans who are easily duped something to hang on to,im afraid our Malky is no Steve Mclaren.....like i always like to say time will prove me right or wrong

"Easily duped"

Many of us have been following this Club for 30-40 years. We have seen Grogan
the Kumars, Clemo, Tricky Ricky, Sam, Riddles... all these people come and go
and the Club pretty much always end up the same way, erm...... shite!!!

I personally choose to believe Malky Mackay and the new owners, not cos i'm
easily duped at all, but because for once, i like the positivity around the club and
all the doubt and mistrust are only built on rumours anyway. I believe the Club is
heading in the right direction

As for "our Malky is no Steve McClaren???? good!!!.. I think Malky is better by far

My dear Taffy Apple,let me try to enlighten you on a few things,when i compared Malky with McClaren i was not comparing their ability to manage a football club,but having the guts to say to the owners enough is enough,having the guts to tell the fans that his hands are being tied behind his back,and stop all this bullshit about trying 24/7 to bring in new players knowing there are enough deluded fans out there,and im sorry but i have to include you to believe that nonsense,one last point,you seem to think that im a young supporter who hasn't been following City long enough to make such outrages comments,well my dear Taffy,try 50 years and still counting

My dear Taffy Apple,let me try to enlighten you on a few things,when i compared Malky with McClaren i was not comparing their ability to manage a football club,but having the guts to say to the owners enough is enough,having the guts to tell the fans that his hands are being tied behind his back,and stop all this bullshit about trying 24/7 to bring in new players knowing there are enough deluded fans out there,and im sorry but i have to include you to believe that nonsense,one last point,you seem to think that im a young supporter who hasn't been following City long enough to make such outrages comments,well my dear Taffy,try 50 years and still counting

My comment was not meant to cast aspersions as to how long you been watching the Club.
If it looked that way, then I apologise.

What EVIDENCE do you have that Malky has not really looked for any more players???
What EVIDENCE do you have that the board are not backing him?

We all know the answer is... NONE.

Because I choose to try and have a bit of belief in the Club I'm gullible and deluded am i?

Yet your somehow brave and enlightened because you choose to say our manager is talking
through his arse? How arrogant.

My dear Taffy Apple,let me try to enlighten you on a few things,when i compared Malky with McClaren i was not comparing their ability to manage a football club,but having the guts to say to the owners enough is enough,having the guts to tell the fans that his hands are being tied behind his back,and stop all this bullshit about trying 24/7 to bring in new players knowing there are enough deluded fans out there,and im sorry but i have to include you to believe that nonsense,one last point,you seem to think that im a young supporter who hasn't been following City long enough to make such outrages comments,well my dear Taffy,try 50 years and still counting

I'd rather have a manager who'd stick with us through thick and thin, than a spoilt poof like Mclaren.

i went to the game on saturday from brighton, 600 miles and 15 hours, was well worth it, av never been so impressed, they worked there bollox off for 90 minutes, without the injuries and a decent tarket man we will be right up there knocking on heavens door again, as for parkin, he is just not good enough to play the football malkey wants to play, end off. as long as we dont get relegated, he can stay forever in my opinion, though i think malkey will go to the top of the tree, with or without cardiff city

Mclaren or our Malky hmmm i will have to think about that for a nano second

Mclaren or our Malky hmmm i will have to think about that for a nano second

I'd sooner have Malcolm McClaren than that wispy haired cheesy-grinned tw*t.

Your quite right Taffy i can be arrogant at times,they tell me its a side affect of being intelligent,but i know bullshit when i smell it...but hey lets wait and see what happens when normality returns in a couple of weeks time and i promise you if there are signings i will make a groveling apology to you on here,but if on the other hand,there are no signings.....well i wont hold my breath