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Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:25 am

Just had this e-mail and something similar may have been posted previously but does anyone know if the following is true or not???????????

Subject: Pension reality Check (not a joke)!
Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?

We're "broke" and can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless etc.?

Are you aware of the following?

The British Government provides the following financial assistance: -
• BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
• ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00

• BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
• ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance: £225.00

• BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0.00
• ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100.00

A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an illegal immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing

• BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
• ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £29,900

Please read all and then forward to all your contacts so that we can lobby for a decent state pension.

After all, the average pensioner has paid taxes and contributed to the growth of this country for the last 40 to 60 years.

Sad isn't it? Its about time we put our own people first.

Most people won't bother to forward this.

I Just did!

If true it's bloody outrageous but i will reserve judgement at the moment :roll:

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:38 pm

My mate works for DHSS and that's total and utter bollocks

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:43 pm

Dunno if thats true but I have a relative who escorts illegal immigrants back home to their home countries and they leave the uk with a golden handshake i.e a big wad of cash in their back pocket :evil:

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:20 pm

Phantom Of The Chopra wrote:My mate works for DHSS and that's total and utter bollocks



afraid its true mat5e i am a pensioner getting 6000 grand a year which because of a private pension is taxed so i end up with 22per cent less and people who have not paid a penny pull tax free 25000 a year even claiming for kids living back in their own country

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:55 pm

Its true wife use to work in post office worse thing they use to send most of it back home to support family members. :evil:

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:57 pm

If this is true this country is a f*cking disgrace!!

Bastards, end of! :evil: :evil:

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:22 pm

birchblue wrote:Its true wife use to work in post office worse thing they use to send most of it back home to support family members. :evil:


The flying pigs in my garden told me it was true as well!!!


This garbage has been doing the rounds for several years now.

It ius complete and utter tosh

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:30 pm

Elwood Blues wrote:
birchblue wrote:Its true wife use to work in post office worse thing they use to send most of it back home to support family members. :evil:


The flying pigs in my garden told me it was true as well!!!


This garbage has been doing the rounds for several years now.

It ius complete and utter tosh


How do you know its rubbish.

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:54 pm

Midfield general wrote:
Elwood Blues wrote:
birchblue wrote:Its true wife use to work in post office worse thing they use to send most of it back home to support family members. :evil:


The flying pigs in my garden told me it was true as well!!!


This garbage has been doing the rounds for several years now.

It ius complete and utter tosh


I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A EU citizen can claim chikld support in this country even through the child may not have ever stepped foot in the country. The pro-europeans defence on this is 'well we can do the same if the roles were reversed' but do they really expect us to accept that child support in countries like Hungray have the same financial value as it does over here..?



With reference to the original post I'm gutted to say that its also true but in this country the loony left shout 'racist' every time a similar issue is mentioned. :evil:


What has your bit about EU citizens got to do with the original post which is about what Illegal immigrant or refugees allegedly get.

If it is true that Illegal; immigrants get this much, please point me to the government website that sets out these payments

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:56 pm

birchblue wrote:
Elwood Blues wrote:
birchblue wrote:Its true wife use to work in post office worse thing they use to send most of it back home to support family members. :evil:


The flying pigs in my garden told me it was true as well!!!


This garbage has been doing the rounds for several years now.

It ius complete and utter tosh


How do you know its rubbish.


Oh ok it is not then.

So presumably some kind soul will point me to the government website which sets out these payments.


I won't hold my breath

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:10 am

Midfield general wrote:
Elwood Blues wrote:
Midfield general wrote:
Elwood Blues wrote:
birchblue wrote:Its true wife use to work in post office worse thing they use to send most of it back home to support family members. :evil:


The flying pigs in my garden told me it was true as well!!!


This garbage has been doing the rounds for several years now.

It ius complete and utter tosh


I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A EU citizen can claim chikld support in this country even through the child may not have ever stepped foot in the country. The pro-europeans defence on this is 'well we can do the same if the roles were reversed' but do they really expect us to accept that child support in countries like Hungray have the same financial value as it does over here..?



With reference to the original post I'm gutted to say that its also true but in this country the loony left shout 'racist' every time a similar issue is mentioned. :evil:


What has your bit about EU citizens got to do with the original post which is about what Illegal immigrant or refugees allegedly get.

If it is true that Illegal; immigrants get this much, please point me to the government website that sets out these payments


If you read my post again I clearly stated that my first line has NOTHING to do with the original post as it was a response from another comment. My second comment clearly states that it was a reponse to the original post!!!! Some people on here can't even understand basic english :evil:



Your first line doesn't clearly state that it has nothing to do with the original post. I'm not even sure why you started on about Eu citizens child support because that is not what my comment or the comment I was responding to is about!!!

To be fair your second does say that it refers to the original post.

However the actual point of my reply was to ask where the government website was that set out the figures paid to illegal immigrants/ refugees.

I'd be interested to see if you or someone else could find one, it must surely exist if the figures are true.

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:02 am

The benefit system is complicated and the example given in the OP might be achievable in very limited circumstances i.e. high housing benefit rent, child benefit for several children, more than one wife and disability payments are added together.

Personally I would imagine that the vast majority of asylum seekers (obviously illegal immigrants would get nothing) actually get very little.

However, there is a huge amount of evidence that settled immigrants are milking the benefit's system and it doesn't matter how much people cry racist, its happening.

An overhaul of the system which stops full benefit being paid for couples who have more than 2 children should be one of the most pressing reforms as well as clamping down on men who choose to have children with more than one wife/partner.

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:03 am

Midfield general wrote:The comment I was replying to as I firmly believe that my EU comment relates to the comment from the Post Office worker.


As I say I can see that, but the chap who said his wife works for the post office was not referring to the EU at all!!

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:07 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:The benefit system is complicated and the example given in the OP might be achievable in very limited circumstances i.e. high housing benefit rent, child benefit for several children, more than one wife and disability payments are added together.

Personally I would imagine that the vast majority of asylum seekers (obviously illegal immigrants would get nothing) actually get very little.

However, there is a huge amount of evidence that settled immigrants are milking the benefit's system and it doesn't matter how much people cry racist, its happening.

An overhaul of the system which stops full benefit being paid for couples who have more than 2 children should be one of the most pressing reforms as well as clamping down on men who choose to have children with more than one wife/partner.


The orginal post is plainly suggesting tho8gh Tony that every illegal immigrant gets those payments. Which is rubbish as I have already said.

I'm sure there are settled immigrants milking the system. I'm also sure that it is not just immigrants who are doing this

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:54 am

What i said was people were getting there benefits and then sending a lot back home Elwood i agree its not all of them but there are a lot im glad to say my wife has left the post office.
They use to get milk vouchers and try and buy lottery tickets they take the piss not all of them but most. :ayatollah:

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:04 pm

within the last week the euro courts have said britain must pay immigrants from day one of their arrival no matter how they get here why do you think they travel through all the other euro countries to get here its because we pay best benifits.If they come here only pay them what they get in their own country then claim it back from a central fund that would be a fairer system.I have seen a somalia get 3000 quid to furnish her free house and still complain its not enough for tv in all four bedrooms for her 10 kids to watch she caused a riot in the dss office.that was years ago when i was claiming and getting 50 quid after paying in for 30 odd years

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:32 pm

Midfield general wrote:
Elwood Blues wrote:
birchblue wrote:Its true wife use to work in post office worse thing they use to send most of it back home to support family members. :evil:


The flying pigs in my garden told me it was true as well!!!


This garbage has been doing the rounds for several years now.

It ius complete and utter tosh


I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A EU citizen can claim chikld support in this country even through the child may not have ever stepped foot in the country. The pro-europeans defence on this is 'well we can do the same if the roles were reversed' but do they really expect us to accept that child support in countries like Hungray have the same financial value as it does over here..?

With reference to the original post I'm gutted to say that its also true but in this country the loony left shout 'racist' every time a similar issue is mentioned. :evil:



So my mate who works for DHSS and who I have asked in person is this correct and told me it's amyth and bullshit doesn't know what he's talking about by you do?? there we go then, why would my butty by correct.. he only feckin works there...!! :roll:

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:33 pm

pensionerbluebird wrote:within the last week the euro courts have said britain must pay immigrants from day one of their arrival no matter how they get here why do you think they travel through all the other euro countries to get here its because we pay best benifits.If they come here only pay them what they get in their own country then claim it back from a central fund that would be a fairer system.I have seen a somalia get 3000 quid to furnish her free house and still complain its not enough for tv in all four bedrooms for her 10 kids to watch she caused a riot in the dss office.that was years ago when i was claiming and getting 50 quid after paying in for 30 odd years



Sorry mate utter bollocks...!!

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:02 am

we need immigrants but of the right sort....our native british birthrate is falling,and we need more young people in this country to be working for it is them who will be working in the future to pay their taxes to fund our old age pensions.Have you tried to see an nhs dentist lately,the only ones it appears who will take on nhs work are the recently arrived spanish & polish dentists.Our nhs would collapse if if all the so called foreign doctors went back, i have 2 doctor neighbous from Bangladesh & Libya,they work very long hours for not a great deal of money.When you`ve had a few beers late at night where do you go to eat-indian? chinese? Kebab?
a bloke from Tenerife used to live opposite us(why the f**k anybody would want to live in wales over tenerife is beyond me)and he told me the spanish government encourages immigration, but...only of the right sort-there are rural villages in spain where the occupants are virtually all oaps, resulting in the closures of schools etc-they have combatted this with offering assistance to immigrants to repopulate such placers....but only to the right type of immigrants-over 2 million Argentinians & couple of million from other south American countries have settled in spain over the last few years-these people share the same language religion, culture & ethnic background...very sensible at the end of the day i think.Oh by the way they also have a very good social security system,free healthcare ,schools etc same as us-so why dont all the pakis somalis etc go and settle in spain?
My friend from tenerife explained why....-their immigrants are seen by the local people as an asset who will help their communities stay viable,while we in the uk see immigrants as a drain on our resources.Basically we have the wrong type of immigrants.
If you think i`m racist fine i dont give shit but we need the right type of people who share our culture and whose children will fully integrate in the future ,ie come on east and other europeans spanish.poilish romanian etc and keep out those who believe in sharia law and the amputating of childrens hands for petty theft,and stoning women to death for alleged adultary

Re: Does anybody know if this is true???????

Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:02 am

Phantom Of The Chopra wrote:
pensionerbluebird wrote:within the last week the euro courts have said britain must pay immigrants from day one of their arrival no matter how they get here why do you think they travel through all the other euro countries to get here its because we pay best benifits.If they come here only pay them what they get in their own country then claim it back from a central fund that would be a fairer system.I have seen a somalia get 3000 quid to furnish her free house and still complain its not enough for tv in all four bedrooms for her 10 kids to watch she caused a riot in the dss office.that was years ago when i was claiming and getting 50 quid after paying in for 30 odd years



your opinion mate i was there and saw it ,its not my opinion its fact.