Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:54 am
Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:41 am
Overthemoon wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15070083.stm
Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:48 am
Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:51 am
Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:58 am
Overthemoon wrote:I also think he's passing the buck and apportioning blame to the new owners!
Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:20 am
Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:23 am
Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:23 am
taffyapple wrote:[b]
Mackay has started from scratch, spent a hell of a lot less than you did, yet
our contracted squad has probably quadrupled in value from this time last season
Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:24 am
crackajack wrote:AM I MISSING SOMETHING AS A LIFELONG 48 YEAR OLD FAN .WHY DO FANS KEEP HARPING ON ABOUT DAVE JONES WHO IN MY OPPINION WAS A DECENT MANAGER WHO BROUGHT IN THE LIKES OF LOOVENS BOTHROID BELLAMY JOHNSTONE AND COME ON WHO THOUGHT WE WOULD BE DRINKING IN LONDON BEFORE A CUP FINAL GIVE THE GUY A BREAK AND WISH HIM LUCK IN THE FUTURE AFTERALL ITS WHAT HE HAS DONE TO US. LETS LOOK TO THE FUTURE WITH MM WEATHER IT BE LOAN PLAYERS OR SIGNINGAS AND LET THE PAST GO
Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:32 am
crackajack wrote:AM I MISSING SOMETHING AS A LIFELONG 48 YEAR OLD FAN .WHY DO FANS KEEP HARPING ON ABOUT DAVE JONES WHO IN MY OPPINION WAS A DECENT MANAGER WHO BROUGHT IN THE LIKES OF LOOVENS BOTHROID BELLAMY JOHNSTONE AND COME ON WHO THOUGHT WE WOULD BE DRINKING IN LONDON BEFORE A CUP FINAL GIVE THE GUY A BREAK AND WISH HIM LUCK IN THE FUTURE AFTERALL ITS WHAT HE HAS DONE TO US. LETS LOOK TO THE FUTURE WITH MM WEATHER IT BE LOAN PLAYERS OR SIGNINGAS AND LET THE PAST GO
Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:05 am
Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:11 am
Nuclearblue wrote:It could of worked but Jones is a very poor Manager and could NOT manage them IMO
Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:46 am
Mackay has proven that you can get players in on the cheap, or on Free transfers AND
turn them into assets for the Club at the same time. He must have made about 15m
profit already on his signings
Yes, a few years ago he done a good job here. But the last two seasons his apathy
not only started to show through to the fans.
Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:18 pm
smilebit wrote:Mackay has proven that you can get players in on the cheap, or on Free transfers AND
turn them into assets for the Club at the same time. He must have made about 15m
profit already on his signings
I really don't know how you can say that for starters and remind how much the likes of Loovens, Johnson cost us and were sold on far . When it comes to bringing players in and selling them for a far bigger profit Jones record is very goodYes, a few years ago he done a good job here. But the last two seasons his apathy
not only started to show through to the fans.
People need to get over the Blackpool game, it didn't happen but other than that it was a fantastic season and a great team effort to go all the way to the Final with a Transfer embargo and think squad, last season was going great until we played Swansea at home and then it sadly all went pear shaped . I agree Jones had to go, but he done a very good job for us and brought some great players in (as well as bad) As for Mackay It's very early days, I'll expect any new Manager coming into a Club early into the season to have players playing for him, Lets see if these same players do just the same at the end of the this season and for the next 5 seasons . Then we can really judge him against Jones.
But I seem to remember Watford tailing off last season even with Mackay in charge, so who knows :\
Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:36 pm
Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:46 pm
smilebit wrote:taffyapple wrote:[b]
Mackay has started from scratch, spent a hell of a lot less than you did, yet
our contracted squad has probably quadrupled in value from this time last season
Started from scratch ?
I never knew Mackay singed the likes of McNaughton, Marshall, Gerrard, Whittingham, Naylor, Blake ECT. Its not like Dave Jones didn't have to do his own rebuilding job in 2006 either , when Cardiff City were selling players to pay the bank:lets all try and remember why the likes of Peter Thorne, Graham Kavanagh had to leave.
Lets judge Mackay at the end of this season and next season to see what so of Job he's doing, because Dave Jones done a bloody great job in his 1st couple of years (more so with the Club up to its eye balls in money troubles) and last season we were pretty good for the 1st couple of months which people seem to forget, it wasn't until we played Swansea @ home that it went to cock
I agree it was time for Jones to go and I like Mackay his attitude and what he's doing ECT ECT but it's very early days its too early to call it and will not forget what a great Job Jones did for the Club up until last year either. Lennie Lawrence was the one that was able to spend the cash and he didn't take us to the promised land, yet he's still a hero to many on here :\
Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:21 pm
BluebirdForever wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:41 pm
taffyapple wrote:smilebit wrote:Mackay has proven that you can get players in on the cheap, or on Free transfers AND
turn them into assets for the Club at the same time. He must have made about 15m
profit already on his signings
I really don't know how you can say that for starters and remind how much the likes of Loovens, Johnson cost us and were sold on far . When it comes to bringing players in and selling them for a far bigger profit Jones record is very goodYes, a few years ago he done a good job here. But the last two seasons his apathy
not only started to show through to the fans.
People need to get over the Blackpool game, it didn't happen but other than that it was a fantastic season and a great team effort to go all the way to the Final with a Transfer embargo and think squad, last season was going great until we played Swansea at home and then it sadly all went pear shaped . I agree Jones had to go, but he done a very good job for us and brought some great players in (as well as bad) As for Mackay It's very early days, I'll expect any new Manager coming into a Club early into the season to have players playing for him, Lets see if these same players do just the same at the end of the this season and for the next 5 seasons . Then we can really judge him against Jones.
But I seem to remember Watford tailing off last season even with Mackay in charge, so who knows :\
Rose tinted??
Somebody put up a list of ALL Dave Jones signings since he came here a while
back. It did not make pleasant reading. Maybe someone will put it up again.
The rubbish far outweighs the good signings i know that much.
So far, Mackay most definitely has got 10 out of 10
Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:06 pm