tony blair,what have you done to my industry

working on a building site in newport,30 working there,10 of which are eastern european,my industry has been smashed,wages have dropped dramatically,and all because you and your f#cking cronnies done f#ck all to protect the working man,i got no time for politicians what so ever

How the hell is it Tony Blair's fault?

Why are Eastern Europians always blamed?

They contribute hugely to this economy.

Look for someone else to blame for once instead of scapegoating foreigners :S.

How the hell is it Tony Blair's fault?

Because that c**t signed us over to Europe and we have no say.All the Eastern Bloc can do as they please now

Agree entirely hooligan858, i work construction & applied to work on the Olympic stadium but there was nothing going, everyone was complaining that it was flooded with Eastern europeans & they would never get it finished in time but they are going to get it finished on time & within budget, unlike Wembley stadium which was years off the opening time & way off the budget.They are certainly not to blame.

working on a building site in newport,30 working there,10 of which are eastern european,my industry has been smashed,wages have dropped dramatically,and all because you and your f#cking cronnies done f#ck all to protect the working man,i got no time for politicians what so ever

it's all your own fault for being so greedy over the years,a brickie mate of mine back in the 90's used to brag about how he wouldn't get out of bed for less than a ton a day,and he was still in the boozer by 2.00...now he's on half that and working a full day,if the eastern euros are willing to put the hours in for less dosh then good luck to them...surely the railway workers are next to take the hit...

Industry is fucked anyway, But I do think British should get the Jobs before anyone else.

Oh come on nothing was said when us Brits flooded into Germany working on their building sites to make a fortune, I never earnt so much ker ching

It was Thatcher who screwed the working men & the communities by decimating heavy industry. The building trade for long periods has been grossly overpaid for semi skilled jobs, they're now being paid about the correct rate.

It was Thatcher who screwed the working men & the communities by decimating heavy industry. The building trade for long periods has been grossly overpaid for semi skilled jobs, they're now being paid about the correct rate.

She wasn`t perfect but she was the last PM with pride in the country and didn`t sell us out like the rest since have done............Labour and Tory.

we have millions unemployed,we have a youth population growing up in a world with (at the moment no future)and you wonder why i am so against europeans being here,i havent started on the wage issues.i just hope that people that seem so unintrested in this problem,that the europeans come into your workplace and do your job for half what you do it for,then you will understand and want change im sure

Remember the programme Auf Wedersein Pet? That program was all about Brits working abroad cos there were no jobs for the masses under thatcher. Privatisation under thatcher was a way she could raise funds for the country by getting private forms to fight over owning the rights to supply or sell goods and services etc. Whether you agree it's a good thing or not, we now pay more for our trains than ever, utilities gas and electric are costlier than ever it seems. So while the ideology behind it seems good in practice thatcher actually set this country to the dogs years before Blair did it.

Industry is fucked anyway, But I do think British should get the Jobs before anyone else.

So you don't think the British workers actually get offered the jobs that east Europeans get then? Take, for example, Merthyr. It's always held up as the sicknote capital of Britain but what percentage of those do you think are actually unfit for work? I'd lay my life on it that it's not 100%. And the percentage that are fit for work but choose to go on the sick are usually the first to moan that these immigrants are "nicking our jobs". Jobs that they choose not to take

Remember the programme Auf Wedersein Pet? That program was all about Brits working abroad cos there were no jobs for the masses under thatcher. Privatisation under thatcher was a way she could raise funds for the country by getting private forms to fight over owning the rights to supply or sell goods and services etc. Whether you agree it's a good thing or not, we now pay more for our trains than ever, utilities gas and electric are costlier than ever it seems. So while the ideology behind it seems good in practice thatcher actually set this country to the dogs years before Blair did it.

Exactly - pure short termism with no thought for the future.

Thatcher was a dumb c**t and it hasn't got any better since her either.

It was Thatcher who screwed the working men & the communities by decimating heavy industry. The building trade for long periods has been grossly overpaid for semi skilled jobs, they're now being paid about the correct rate.

Didnt sell us out, try telling that to the mining, steel, motor manufacturing & dockers. She killed communities all over the country.

What a load of ignorant shite!! Why not go back to Ted Heath? If you're old enough to remember he was the one who took us into the EU. Then look at what Thatcher did in systematically destroying industry in the UK. During this reign of terror incentives to firms to employ apprentices were stopped. In fact real appreciteships were largely scrapped and replaced by YTS schemes. Is it any f*cking wonder that far more highly skilled workers from Eastern Europe (the only decent legacy they have from their days in the USSR is fantastic education and learning skills) are brought in to fill the void as the UK just doesn't have enough skilled people? Wembley Stadium for example, would never have been completed without Eastern European skilled workers. There was a massive recruitment drive to get that project back on track. We're talking literally thousands of jobs for electricians and the like. There were not enough UK workers to fill them. The Poles, Lithuanians, Estonians etc who came in were far more qualified, with much more experience and had another redeeming feature....a decent work ethic the likes of which we haven't seen in this country probably since my fathers early days in employment. Blame Tony Blair all you like, but you're way off the mark.

we have millions unemployed,we have a youth population growing up in a world with (at the moment no future)and you wonder why i am so against europeans being here,i havent started on the wage issues.i just hope that people that seem so unintrested in this problem,that the europeans come into your workplace and do your job for half what you do it for,then you will understand and want change im sure

Growing up in a world with no future? Perhaps a country with no future is more accurate. I wonder what the breakdown is of those 2.5m unemployed in terms of skills, ability and experience? It's funny isn't it that we Brits never look outside our own country yet moan about people coming here. I've got 3 kids, one is is Uni another doing GCSE's. If they end up narrowing their horizons to living and working in this shithole of a country I'll be disappointed. There are just as many opportunities for us in Europe as there are for Europeans in the UK. What's a great pity is the total neglect in UK when it comes to teaching languages. That's a real edge that Europeans have over us. Island mentality is a terrible thing. BTW before the predictable xenophobic, jingoistic response, can I say I spend a very large part of my time working in mainland Europe so I think I know what I'm talking about.

we have millions unemployed,we have a youth population growing up in a world with (at the moment no future)and you wonder why i am so against europeans being here,i havent started on the wage issues.i just hope that people that seem so unintrested in this problem,that the europeans come into your workplace and do your job for half what you do it for,then you will understand and want change im sure

Growing up in a world with no future? Perhaps a country with no future is more accurate. I wonder what the breakdown is of those 2.5m unemployed in terms of skills, ability and experience? It's funny isn't it that we Brits never look outside our own country yet moan about people coming here. I've got 3 kids, one is is Uni another doing GCSE's. If they end up narrowing their horizons to living and working in this shithole of a country I'll be disappointed. There are just as many opportunities for us in Europe as there are for Europeans in the UK. What's a great pity is the total neglect in UK when it comes to teaching languages. That's a real edge that Europeans have over us. Island mentality is a terrible thing. BTW before the predictable xenophobic, jingoistic response, can I say I spend a very large part of my time working in mainland Europe so I think I know what I'm talking about.

Utter bollocks, we shouldn't have to leave this beautiful country to find a job.

we have millions unemployed,we have a youth population growing up in a world with (at the moment no future)and you wonder why i am so against europeans being here,i havent started on the wage issues.i just hope that people that seem so unintrested in this problem,that the europeans come into your workplace and do your job for half what you do it for,then you will understand and want change im sure

Growing up in a world with no future? Perhaps a country with no future is more accurate. I wonder what the breakdown is of those 2.5m unemployed in terms of skills, ability and experience? It's funny isn't it that we Brits never look outside our own country yet moan about people coming here. I've got 3 kids, one is is Uni another doing GCSE's. If they end up narrowing their horizons to living and working in this shithole of a country I'll be disappointed. There are just as many opportunities for us in Europe as there are for Europeans in the UK. What's a great pity is the total neglect in UK when it comes to teaching languages. That's a real edge that Europeans have over us. Island mentality is a terrible thing. BTW before the predictable xenophobic, jingoistic response, can I say I spend a very large part of my time working in mainland Europe so I think I know what I'm talking about.

and just to let you know wembley was f@cked by the very eastern europeans you talk of,many friends of mine who are also ELECTRICIANS,went to wembley to put the job right,and this is the honest truth,i have no problem with working alongside foreign labour,but i do object when they are bringing down my hourly rate,i guess that many who dont see a problem are not a part of industry that has been effected

Bringing in Cameron and his f**k buddy Clegg hasn't done this country any good now has it? Made devestating cuts, stopped infastructure projects which would've made the economy stronger, unemployment is on a high, great f*cking future if you ask me!

Oh yea, here is proof that the regime is failing....CLEGG HAS NOW SAID THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD SPEND MORE ON INFASTRUCTURE, isn't that what Labour already said they would do and DID start doing? Yes, I agree, Labour over spent, but if you want an economy flowing, YOU NEED TO SPEND. I believe WE CAN spend our way out of this economy, to bloody late now!

You can't spend money if there is no money to spend.

And Blair didn't sign us up to the EU.

This is still a great place to work and live.

You can't spend money if there is no money to spend.

And Blair didn't sign us up to the EU.

This is still a great place to work and live.

Well there must be money other wise we would end up like Greece! Don't believe everything the media tell you.

Please explain how that works.

We must have money simply due to the fact we can pay our debts?

Please explain how that works.

We must have money simply due to the fact we can pay our debts?

Didn't say we were minted mate. All I'm saying is, we haven't been bailed out, our AAA crediting hasnt been down-graded and we're stilling funding the Afghan war and the Libya unrest. As far as I'm aware, we are no where near default, so there must be money. Britain would never default even if we still had the Tories in charge for another 100years.

Here's another example on how we can spend our way out. Goerge Osbourne said the British Government would spend an extra £500mil on science and space, which is excpected to make a £7.5billion profit to Britain. Surely thats an indication that WE CAN spend our way out? I'm not saying spend all the money, cause I agree we should makea few cuts.

working on a building site in newport,30 working there,10 of which are eastern european,my industry has been smashed,wages have dropped dramatically,and all because you and your f#cking cronnies done f#ck all to protect the working man,i got no time for politicians what so ever

it's all your own fault for being so greedy over the years,a brickie mate of mine back in the 90's used to brag about how he wouldn't get out of bed for less than a ton a day,and he was still in the boozer by 2.00...now he's on half that and working a full day,if the eastern euros are willing to put the hours in for less dosh then good luck to them...surely the railway workers are next to take the hit...

Correct me if i'm wrong, but are people saying brickies, electricians, plumbers etc had it too good. So if their hourly rates are have been cut or jobs lost tough shit!
But now the public sector is getting the treatment it's an outrage.

Bit of hypocrisy there!

working on a building site in newport,30 working there,10 of which are eastern european,my industry has been smashed,wages have dropped dramatically,and all because you and your f#cking cronnies done f#ck all to protect the working man,i got no time for politicians what so ever

it's all your own fault for being so greedy over the years,a brickie mate of mine back in the 90's used to brag about how he wouldn't get out of bed for less than a ton a day,and he was still in the boozer by 2.00...now he's on half that and working a full day,if the eastern euros are willing to put the hours in for less dosh then good luck to them...surely the railway workers are next to take the hit...

Correct me if i'm wrong, but are people saying brickies, electricians, plumbers etc had it too good. So if their hourly rates are have been cut or jobs lost tough shit!
But now the public sector is getting the treatment it's an outrage.

Bit of hypocrisy there!

i guess this is aimed at me,as my quote has been used,i don't want ANYONE to lose their jobs,but the trades you've mentioned,yeah i do think they've been way over-paid over the years,painters the same,giving quotes of £200+ for jobs that'll take 2 days to do,yeah right !!! so if their hourly rate has had to drop,and i can geta eastern euro to do it for half the price and do a better job,sorry there's only one winner there...i've never made any comment about the public sector,i worked in admin for the nhs for 25 years,wages were shocking,their pay definately shouldn't be cut.

What a load of ignorant shite!! Why not go back to Ted Heath? If you're old enough to remember he was the one who took us into the EU. Then look at what Thatcher did in systematically destroying industry in the UK. During this reign of terror incentives to firms to employ apprentices were stopped. In fact real appreciteships were largely scrapped and replaced by YTS schemes. Is it any f*cking wonder that far more highly skilled workers from Eastern Europe (the only decent legacy they have from their days in the USSR is fantastic education and learning skills) are brought in to fill the void as the UK just doesn't have enough skilled people? Wembley Stadium for example, would never have been completed without Eastern European skilled workers. There was a massive recruitment drive to get that project back on track. We're talking literally thousands of jobs for electricians and the like. There were not enough UK workers to fill them. The Poles, Lithuanians, Estonians etc who came in were far more qualified, with much more experience and had another redeeming feature....a decent work ethic the likes of which we haven't seen in this country probably since my fathers early days in employment. Blame Tony Blair all you like, but you're way off the mark.

How are Eastern Euros Sparkies "Far more qualified?" The construction Qualifications in the UK are world class, are you saying their training is better than ours? I take issue with people who always say the same shit "They work much harder than Brits" BULLSHIT maybe some, but not all. They can all f**k off home for all I care.
I have close links with the Dry-lining industry, and the Bulgarians have flooded it, it's now fucked. I can tell you now, the British lads are not happy.

22 years as a bricklayer and yea I am now being priced out of the market be people working for around £60 a day I was on that back in 1992 so with the living costs going up so much over the years it is now becoming a none entirety.

There are lots of eastern block people and British people buying work which has lowered the prices down so much.

The fact is the trade is on its needs who you blame is up to you but if it happened in your work place and your wage was more than halved and you were suffering financially then you would want to blame someone.

I no of polish boys renting a house together so its cheap and yea they work for nothing really but are boys are trying to compete with it just to get work.

You have to go through it to understand but when you have a wife kids and a house car etc and your wage goes down more than 50 % then I think you are entitled to point a finger of blame.Maybe you will be next in your line of work.

22 years as a bricklayer and yea I am now being priced out of the market be people working for around £60 a day I was on that back in 1992 so with the living costs going up so much over the years it is now becoming a none entirety.

There are lots of eastern block people and British people buying work which has lowered the prices down so much.

The fact is the trade is on its knees who you blame is up to you but if it happened in your work place and your wage was more than halved and you were suffering financially then you would want to blame someone.

I no of polish boys renting a house together so its cheap and yea they work for nothing really but are boys are trying to compete with it just to get work.

You have to go through it to understand but when you have a wife kids and a house car etc and your wage goes down more than 50 % then I think you are entitled to point a finger of blame.Maybe you will be next in your line of work.

22 years as a bricklayer and yea I am now being priced out of the market be people working for around £60 a day I was on that back in 1992 so with the living costs going up so much over the years it is now becoming a none entirety.

There are lots of eastern block people and British people buying work which has lowered the prices down so much.

The fact is the trade is on its needs who you blame is up to you but if it happened in your work place and your wage was more than halved and you were suffering financially then you would want to blame someone.

I no of polish boys renting a house together so its cheap and yea they work for nothing really but are boys are trying to compete with it just to get work.

You have to go through it to understand but when you have a wife kids and a house car etc and your wage goes down more than 50 % then I think you are entitled to point a finger of blame.Maybe you will be next in your line of work.

excellently put,its shit out there at the moment