" Standing at matches "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj5m

The federation (FSF)has been campaigning for safe standing in the top two flights of football for many years and we finally have MP's on board willing to take it to parliament, Don Foster being the most pro active.

The link above shows a debate yesterday when an anti standing campaigner challenged the right of fans to stand at games.

We do not want to see the return of the old style overcrowded terracing, we want fans to have the choice on whether they stand or sit, but it has to be in a safe way.

Currently people stand at just about every football match, in-between seats in seated areas, this is not great and it is definitely unfair on fans who prefer to sit, if an alternative was in stadia it would appease everyone.

We have a safe standing demonstration at the Ninian Park pub next Tuesday at 5.30pm.,please come along and see how "safe standing " would solve this problem...ask questions if you have any doubts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj5m

The federation (FSF)has been campaigning for safe standing in the top two flights of football for many years and we finally have MP's on board willing to take it to parliament, Don Foster being the most pro active.

The link above shows a debate yesterday when an anti standing campaigner challenged the right of fans to stand at games.

We do not want to see the return of the old style overcrowded terracing, we want fans to have the choice on whether they stand or sit, but it has to be in a safe way.

Currently people stand at just about every football match, in-between seats in seated areas, this is not great and it is definitely unfair on fans who prefer to sit, if an alternative was in stadia it would appease everyone.

We have a safe standing demonstration at the Ninian Park pub next Tuesday at 5.30pm.,please come along and see how "safe standing " would solve this problem...ask questions if you have any doubts.

corky why dont you highlight the dangers of standing within a seated area where there are no barriers to prevent falls and injuries.
As a steward ive witnessed these dangers in many games home and away working with cardiff.
If fans continue to stand at games which has been highlighted in the programme they have been for the last 20 years despite the all seater stadiums, surely it is more dangerous and a bigger risk to supporter safety to stand in a seated area than a properly constructed safe standing area.
With regards to current laws requiring stewards to ensure fans remain seated during the game, many attempts are ignored by supporters, if stewards try to get supporters to sit at all in some areas. This is not just a problem at Cardiff City this is a problem across the leagues.
If someone falls from a back row in a stand a domino effect happens knocking and hurting other supporters on the way down the stand, this problem would be eliminated if a safe standing area was put in place

I really wish people would stop pushing out the Hillsborough disaster.
Yes it was a horrible, horrible thing. We should never forget it.
However, to suggest that safe standing would cause similar events is just lunacy. If anything, the situation we have right now is much more likely to cause incidents than any kind of safe standing terrace.

Am I being naive by thinking that safe standing is not as safe as safe sitting? If sitting is safer, we should stick with that.

Am I being naive by thinking that safe standing is not as safe as safe sitting? If sitting is safer, we should stick with that.

Am I being naive by thinking that safe standing is not as safe as safe sitting? If sitting is safer, we should stick with that.

You are correct but the problem is thousands stand every week in seated areas,what we are campaigning for is an alternative...safe standing...pop down the Ninian Park pub next Tuesday at 5.30 and you will see what I mean...a company has agreed to come to Cardiff to show how safe standing works and they bring a full scale model of it for fans to try out.

corky why dont you highlight the dangers of standing within a seated area where there are no barriers to prevent falls and injuries.

Yes we highlight that mate

http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safestanding.php

i'd love to have safe standing at the ground. didn't see any problems with it at ninian park even though that was terracing. hope it gets the nod

I think Safe Standing would go down a treat at the CCS.

Solve a lot of problems associated with people wanting to stand and encourage a 'singing area' too.

Just dont go along with the argument about standing in a seater standium.

Unless the ram the section like they did at Portsmouth last year then standing in a seating area is dangerous. If however you you only have the amount of people who are meant ot be in the seating area then there is no problem or danger if they stand.

However if you get people standing in a seated area then you will get those who want to sit complaining, that is natural and no one can complain about that.

Idealy a club should allow for standing in certain areas of a ground and only sitting in others. Now where you allow those standing areas is another argument.

Heres the demo for safe standing...


Basicly, you can pull the seat out and sit down if you wish too, or stand up and it will not spoil the view for the people behind you as the levels of the seats will be higher and they will be able to see over your head even though the person infrount is standing.

Am I being naive by thinking that safe standing is not as safe as safe sitting? If sitting is safer, we should stick with that.

But the point is that many people do not sit at football games, and you will not change that.
And as far as I am aware, safe standing is essentially similar in terms of safety as sitting.
Indeed, if standing was so dangerous, we wouldn't allow it in lower leagues or in other sports (including Rugby).

Used in Germany:



I sit, but I stand at away games, I find it hard to think the events of hillsborough will happen again though, better match planning, no fences at the front, more police, more surveillance, police with better communication and we all have mobile phones. If someone can set up like what is above, prove it's safe and have designated areas for it, I don't see the prob.

I Hate standing period, When I bought My ST for the Grangend NP it was because I liked to stand and all things Football, We must remember that the Hillsborough tragedy was not the fault of the Ground/Terracing or layout, It was the WY Police that decided to open the gates before kick off and allow thousands of Liverpool Fans into an already full to capacity area, That is why most Family's of the victims have demanded justice from the Police and not Hillsborough/SWFC as it was no fault of the Football ground. It has always been said that shifting blame on stadia's was a scapegoat that allowed the real reason to for the tragedy (WY Police) to go unscathed. I have noticed at the CCS that there are a considerable amount of new faces among the stewards, I know some of the old Stewards are City Fans but the attitude on those at the CCS seem to have no understanding of Football Supporters more than most stewards elsewhere? I have a sneaky suspicion that the majority of Stewards at the CCS are not only egg Chasers, but egg Chasing Players that take great pleasure in spoiling the Footy Boy's day. I dont like the bloody place anyway:

I Hate standing period, When I bought My ST for the Grangend NP it was because I liked to stand and all things Football, We must remember that the Hillsborough tragedy was not the fault of the Ground/Terracing or layout, It was the WY Police that decided to open the gates before kick off and allow thousands of Liverpool Fans into an already full to capacity area, That is why most Family's of the victims have demanded justice from the Police and not Hillsborough/SWFC as it was no fault of the Football ground. It has always been said that shifting blame on stadia's was a scapegoat that allowed the real reason to for the tragedy (WY Police) to go unscathed. I have noticed at the CCS that there are a considerable amount of new faces among the stewards, I know some of the old Stewards are City Fans but the attitude on those at the CCS seem to have no understanding of Football Supporters more than most stewards elsewhere? I have a sneaky suspicion that the majority of Stewards at the CCS are not only egg Chasers, but egg Chasing Players that take great pleasure in spoiling the Footy Boy's day. I dont like the bloody place anyway:

utter rubbish what is peoples problems with stewards
yes there are good stewards yes there are bad stewards
we are responsible for spectator safety and follow the laws set out by the government and other relevant authorities and at the moment they have decided that standing at a football ground is dangerous so we operate under that
you cant drink in view of the pitch why thats a law i dont know but it is
Cardiff Blues stewards were offered the opportunity to work at the CCS but unless they only work the rugby games there arent many of them. I dont work during the rugby games only steward the football.
Apart from the old NP steward team which I was part of a lot of stewards are students.
The idea that stewards are out to ruin your day is stupid you only meet me if your becoming a problem to safety or breaking the law and trust me yould rather see me than the OB cause they dont f**k about.
Plus the fact you keep reiterating that you dont attend the CCS as you have your own personal ban (im sure i read that in one of your posts) your not really qualified to comment on how stewards ruin your day out because your not there to have it ruined.

I Hate standing period, When I bought My ST for the Grangend NP it was because I liked to stand and all things Football, We must remember that the Hillsborough tragedy was not the fault of the Ground/Terracing or layout, It was the WY Police that decided to open the gates before kick off and allow thousands of Liverpool Fans into an already full to capacity area, That is why most Family's of the victims have demanded justice from the Police and not Hillsborough/SWFC as it was no fault of the Football ground. It has always been said that shifting blame on stadia's was a scapegoat that allowed the real reason to for the tragedy (WY Police) to go unscathed. I have noticed at the CCS that there are a considerable amount of new faces among the stewards, I know some of the old Stewards are City Fans but the attitude on those at the CCS seem to have no understanding of Football Supporters more than most stewards elsewhere? I have a sneaky suspicion that the majority of Stewards at the CCS are not only egg Chasers, but egg Chasing Players that take great pleasure in spoiling the Footy Boy's day. I dont like the bloody place anyway:

utter rubbish what is peoples problems with stewards
yes there are good stewards yes there are bad stewards
we are responsible for spectator safety and follow the laws set out by the government and other relevant authorities and at the moment they have decided that standing at a football ground is dangerous so we operate under that
you cant drink in view of the pitch why thats a law i dont know but it is
Cardiff Blues stewards were offered the opportunity to work at the CCS but unless they only work the rugby games there arent many of them. I dont work during the rugby games only steward the football.
Apart from the old NP steward team which I was part of a lot of stewards are students.
The idea that stewards are out to ruin your day is stupid you only meet me if your becoming a problem to safety or breaking the law and trust me yould rather see me than the OB cause they dont f**k about.
Plus the fact you keep reiterating that you dont attend the CCS as you have your own personal ban (im sure i read that in one of your posts) your not really qualified to comment on how stewards ruin your day out because your not there to have it ruined.

Seems Iv touched on a live nerve, The thing is i wouldn't expect anything but a winge from a Stew-pid'''Some one that has'nt missed a game for years, Not like Myself I PAY to support/whatch My team, You get payed to whatch my Team, If I decide enough is enough of all the boll'x and the pomp at the CCS then people like yourself that have the privilege to actually get paid to be at a Cardiff City Football Match SHOULD RESPECT My view. You have NO credence here let alone tell me about qualifications, YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT READ MY POST PROPERLY where I mention My Self Ban'' I didnt go for the game or part with money for the Club, I only went to pay My respects to a fellow Cardiff City Fan, Fekal would make Me go to that feking vibeless over priced flatpack load of sh'te thats all but CARDIFF CITY, And as for rather seeing you than the old bill, I say you would rather see the old bill than see Me' TWERP.

I Hate standing period, When I bought My ST for the Grangend NP it was because I liked to stand and all things Football, We must remember that the Hillsborough tragedy was not the fault of the Ground/Terracing or layout, It was the WY Police that decided to open the gates before kick off and allow thousands of Liverpool Fans into an already full to capacity area, That is why most Family's of the victims have demanded justice from the Police and not Hillsborough/SWFC as it was no fault of the Football ground. It has always been said that shifting blame on stadia's was a scapegoat that allowed the real reason to for the tragedy (WY Police) to go unscathed. I have noticed at the CCS that there are a considerable amount of new faces among the stewards, I know some of the old Stewards are City Fans but the attitude on those at the CCS seem to have no understanding of Football Supporters more than most stewards elsewhere? I have a sneaky suspicion that the majority of Stewards at the CCS are not only egg Chasers, but egg Chasing Players that take great pleasure in spoiling the Footy Boy's day. I dont like the bloody place anyway:

utter rubbish what is peoples problems with stewards
yes there are good stewards yes there are bad stewards
we are responsible for spectator safety and follow the laws set out by the government and other relevant authorities and at the moment they have decided that standing at a football ground is dangerous so we operate under that
you cant drink in view of the pitch why thats a law i dont know but it is
Cardiff Blues stewards were offered the opportunity to work at the CCS but unless they only work the rugby games there arent many of them. I dont work during the rugby games only steward the football.
Apart from the old NP steward team which I was part of a lot of stewards are students.
The idea that stewards are out to ruin your day is stupid you only meet me if your becoming a problem to safety or breaking the law and trust me yould rather see me than the OB cause they dont f**k about.
Plus the fact you keep reiterating that you dont attend the CCS as you have your own personal ban (im sure i read that in one of your posts) your not really qualified to comment on how stewards ruin your day out because your not there to have it ruined.

Seems Iv touched on a live nerve, The thing is i wouldn't expect anything but a winge from a Stew-pid'''Some one that has'nt missed a game for years, Not like Myself I PAY to support/whatch My team, You get payed to whatch my Team, If I decide enough is enough of all the boll'x and the pomp at the CCS then people like yourself that have the privilege to actually get paid to be at a Cardiff City Football Match SHOULD RESPECT My view. You have NO credence here let alone tell me about qualifications, YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT READ MY POST PROPERLY where I mention My Self Ban'' I didnt go for the game or part with money for the Club, I only went to pay My respects to a fellow Cardiff City Fan, Fekal would make Me go to that feking vibeless over priced flatpack load of sh'te thats all but CARDIFF CITY, And as for rather seeing you than the old bill, I say you would rather see the old bill than see Me' TWERP.

no didnt touch a nerve mate just cant stand some of the garbage that people say about stewards
and i read your post just fine
your obviously one of the more paranoid type of supporter
1 didnt realise you owned the club its not exclusively owned by you think you will find its OUR club and whatever capacity you support it in is your own personal choice
2 been supporting cardiff since a boy ive seen a lot of games home and away havent always been a steward
3 you think the CCS is a dump fine dont turn up shows how little you think of cardiff really
4 how you manage to blame everything on stewards is rather interesting in your head they are all bully boy rugby players who seem to have a vendetta against you (keep off the weed mate, paranoia to the extreme)
5 what else can you blame on stewards, the fact of the matter is we do a job thats it you dont like what we do in our job dont attack the knife point aim for the handle. Your not going to get anywhere having a go at stewards you want to change how things are done at the football aim a little higher than the stewards aim for the people who actually run the club
6 how you turned my you would rather see me than the old bill into some sort of a threat not really sure as it was a piece of advice, but ill take on board you threat to me, which i dont really have to worry about because you dont come to the ground

What if there are kids at the stadium?

Having read both the Interim and Final Hillsborough Reports probably the least of the contributory factors was standing. Perhaps the greatest reason for persistent standing at games todawas that there was absolutely no real consultation with fans and fans' groups when the decision to make stadia all seated. Secondly we must not forget that in many grounds where seats have been put on terracing the knee room makes it impossible to sit.

StT.

People who stand up in seated areas should be doused with a strong water cannon--

then thrown into a cage full of snakes


I love throwing heavy objects at people who stand up in front of me

I am one of the thousands of fans who have bad legs who just cant stand for long periods and will fight for the right to be ablle to sit in the seat ive paid for.

If you get your standing area all well and good --but you must tell your meeting to respect us people with medical conditions

People who stand up in seated areas should be doused with a strong water cannon--

then thrown into a cage full of snakes


I love throwing heavy objects at people who stand up in front of me

I am one of the thousands of fans who have bad legs who just cant stand for long periods and will fight for the right to be ablle to sit in the seat ive paid for.

If you get your standing area all well and good --but you must tell your meeting to respect us people with medical conditions

Hence the reason they should have both Mafor because you are right and the ones that enjoy the atmosphere of a terrace are right too.

no didnt touch a nerve mate just cant stand some of the garbage that people say about stewards
and i read your post just fine
your obviously one of the more paranoid type of supporter
1 didnt realise you owned the club its not exclusively owned by you think you will find its OUR club and whatever capacity you support it in is your own personal choice
2 been supporting cardiff since a boy ive seen a lot of games home and away havent always been a steward
3 you think the CCS is a dump fine dont turn up shows how little you think of cardiff really
4 how you manage to blame everything on stewards is rather interesting in your head they are all bully boy rugby players who seem to have a vendetta against you (keep off the weed mate, paranoia to the extreme)
5 what else can you blame on stewards, the fact of the matter is we do a job thats it you dont like what we do in our job dont attack the knife point aim for the handle. Your not going to get anywhere having a go at stewards you want to change how things are done at the football aim a little higher than the stewards aim for the people who actually run the club
6 how you turned my you would rather see me than the old bill into some sort of a threat not really sure as it was a piece of advice, but ill take on board you threat to me, which i dont really have to worry about because you dont come to the ground[/quote]




Now what T Fook give's you the impression I smoke weed??? Because I'm Black' Got Dreadlocks? feking Twerp'' Thats why your a Stew-pid and Im a Fan, And as you seem to be a typical Stew-pid in stereo, your small mind tricks you into stereo typing City Fans like Myself, There are enough people on here that can categorically tell you I don't smoke as say weed''''' . And as for the comment I made on egg chasers being STEW-PIDS, you said yourself the Club offered loads egg'chasers Stew-pids jobs, Bring back Mack Namara I say!!!

I Hate standing period, When I bought My ST for the Grangend NP it was because I liked to stand and all things Football, We must remember that the Hillsborough tragedy was not the fault of the Ground/Terracing or layout, It was the WY Police that decided to open the gates before kick off and allow thousands of Liverpool Fans into an already full to capacity area, That is why most Family's of the victims have demanded justice from the Police and not Hillsborough/SWFC as it was no fault of the Football ground. It has always been said that shifting blame on stadia's was a scapegoat that allowed the real reason to for the tragedy (WY Police) to go unscathed. I have noticed at the CCS that there are a considerable amount of new faces among the stewards, I know some of the old Stewards are City Fans but the attitude on those at the CCS seem to have no understanding of Football Supporters more than most stewards elsewhere? I have a sneaky suspicion that the majority of Stewards at the CCS are not only egg Chasers, but egg Chasing Players that take great pleasure in spoiling the Footy Boy's day. I dont like the bloody place anyway:

utter rubbish what is peoples problems with stewards
yes there are good stewards yes there are bad stewards
we are responsible for spectator safety and follow the laws set out by the government and other relevant authorities and at the moment they have decided that standing at a football ground is dangerous so we operate under that
you cant drink in view of the pitch why thats a law i dont know but it is
Cardiff Blues stewards were offered the opportunity to work at the CCS but unless they only work the rugby games there arent many of them. I dont work during the rugby games only steward the football.
Apart from the old NP steward team which I was part of a lot of stewards are students.
The idea that stewards are out to ruin your day is stupid you only meet me if your becoming a problem to safety or breaking the law and trust me yould rather see me than the OB cause they dont f**k about.
Plus the fact you keep reiterating that you dont attend the CCS as you have your own personal ban (im sure i read that in one of your posts) your not really qualified to comment on how stewards ruin your day out because your not there to have it ruined.

Seems Iv touched on a live nerve, The thing is i wouldn't expect anything but a winge from a Stew-pid'''Some one that has'nt missed a game for years, Not like Myself I PAY to support/whatch My team, You get payed to whatch my Team, If I decide enough is enough of all the boll'x and the pomp at the CCS then people like yourself that have the privilege to actually get paid to be at a Cardiff City Football Match SHOULD RESPECT My view. You have NO credence here let alone tell me about qualifications, YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT READ MY POST PROPERLY where I mention My Self Ban'' I didnt go for the game or part with money for the Club, I only went to pay My respects to a fellow Cardiff City Fan, Fekal would make Me go to that feking vibeless over priced flatpack load of sh'te thats all but CARDIFF CITY, And as for rather seeing you than the old bill, I say you would rather see the old bill than see Me' TWERP.

no didnt touch a nerve mate just cant stand some of the garbage that people say about stewards
and i read your post just fine
your obviously one of the more paranoid type of supporter
1 didnt realise you owned the club its not exclusively owned by you think you will find its OUR club and whatever capacity you support it in is your own personal choice
2 been supporting cardiff since a boy ive seen a lot of games home and away havent always been a steward
3 you think the CCS is a dump fine dont turn up shows how little you think of cardiff really
4 how you manage to blame everything on stewards is rather interesting in your head they are all bully boy rugby players who seem to have a vendetta against you (keep off the weed mate, paranoia to the extreme)
5 what else can you blame on stewards, the fact of the matter is we do a job thats it you dont like what we do in our job dont attack the knife point aim for the handle. Your not going to get anywhere having a go at stewards you want to change how things are done at the football aim a little higher than the stewards aim for the people who actually run the club
6 how you turned my you would rather see me than the old bill into some sort of a threat not really sure as it was a piece of advice, but ill take on board you threat to me, which i dont really have to worry about because you dont come to the ground

Now what T Fook give's you the impression I smoke weed??? Because I'm Black' Got Dreadlocks? feking Twerp'' Thats why your a Stew-pid and Im a Fan, And as you seem to be a typical Stew-pid in stereo, your small mind tricks you into stereo typing City Fans like Myself, There are enough people on here that can categorically tell you I don't smoke as say weed''''' . And as for the comment I made on egg chasers being STEW-PIDS, you said yourself the Club offered loads egg'chasers Stew-pids jobs, Bring back Mack Namara I say!!!

Cheers Corky

Heres the demo for safe standing...


Basicly, you can pull the seat out and sit down if you wish too, or stand up and it will not spoil the view for the people behind you as the levels of the seats will be higher and they will be able to see over your head even though the person infrount is standing.

looking at that picture, if i was sat down and someone was stood in front of me, i would deffinately not see over their heads!!

I Hate standing period, When I bought My ST for the Grangend NP it was because I liked to stand and all things Football, We must remember that the Hillsborough tragedy was not the fault of the Ground/Terracing or layout, It was the WY Police that decided to open the gates before kick off and allow thousands of Liverpool Fans into an already full to capacity area, That is why most Family's of the victims have demanded justice from the Police and not Hillsborough/SWFC as it was no fault of the Football ground. It has always been said that shifting blame on stadia's was a scapegoat that allowed the real reason to for the tragedy (WY Police) to go unscathed. I have noticed at the CCS that there are a considerable amount of new faces among the stewards, I know some of the old Stewards are City Fans but the attitude on those at the CCS seem to have no understanding of Football Supporters more than most stewards elsewhere? I have a sneaky suspicion that the majority of Stewards at the CCS are not only egg Chasers, but egg Chasing Players that take great pleasure in spoiling the Footy Boy's day. I dont like the bloody place anyway:

utter rubbish what is peoples problems with stewards
yes there are good stewards yes there are bad stewards
we are responsible for spectator safety and follow the laws set out by the government and other relevant authorities and at the moment they have decided that standing at a football ground is dangerous so we operate under that
you cant drink in view of the pitch why thats a law i dont know but it is
Cardiff Blues stewards were offered the opportunity to work at the CCS but unless they only work the rugby games there arent many of them. I dont work during the rugby games only steward the football.
Apart from the old NP steward team which I was part of a lot of stewards are students.
The idea that stewards are out to ruin your day is stupid you only meet me if your becoming a problem to safety or breaking the law and trust me yould rather see me than the OB cause they dont f**k about.
Plus the fact you keep reiterating that you dont attend the CCS as you have your own personal ban (im sure i read that in one of your posts) your not really qualified to comment on how stewards ruin your day out because your not there to have it ruined.

Seems Iv touched on a live nerve, The thing is i wouldn't expect anything but a winge from a Stew-pid'''Some one that has'nt missed a game for years, Not like Myself I PAY to support/whatch My team, You get payed to whatch my Team, If I decide enough is enough of all the boll'x and the pomp at the CCS then people like yourself that have the privilege to actually get paid to be at a Cardiff City Football Match SHOULD RESPECT My view. You have NO credence here let alone tell me about qualifications, YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT READ MY POST PROPERLY where I mention My Self Ban'' I didnt go for the game or part with money for the Club, I only went to pay My respects to a fellow Cardiff City Fan, Fekal would make Me go to that feking vibeless over priced flatpack load of sh'te thats all but CARDIFF CITY, And as for rather seeing you than the old bill, I say you would rather see the old bill than see Me' TWERP.

no didnt touch a nerve mate just cant stand some of the garbage that people say about stewards
and i read your post just fine
your obviously one of the more paranoid type of supporter
1 didnt realise you owned the club its not exclusively owned by you think you will find its OUR club and whatever capacity you support it in is your own personal choice
2 been supporting cardiff since a boy ive seen a lot of games home and away havent always been a steward
3 you think the CCS is a dump fine dont turn up shows how little you think of cardiff really
4 how you manage to blame everything on stewards is rather interesting in your head they are all bully boy rugby players who seem to have a vendetta against you (keep off the weed mate, paranoia to the extreme)
5 what else can you blame on stewards, the fact of the matter is we do a job thats it you dont like what we do in our job dont attack the knife point aim for the handle. Your not going to get anywhere having a go at stewards you want to change how things are done at the football aim a little higher than the stewards aim for the people who actually run the club
6 how you turned my you would rather see me than the old bill into some sort of a threat not really sure as it was a piece of advice, but ill take on board you threat to me, which i dont really have to worry about because you dont come to the ground

Now what T Fook give's you the impression I smoke weed??? Because I'm Black' Got Dreadlocks? feking Twerp'' Thats why your a Stew-pid and Im a Fan, And as you seem to be a typical Stew-pid in stereo, your small mind tricks you into stereo typing City Fans like Myself, There are enough people on here that can categorically tell you I don't smoke as say weed''''' . And as for the comment I made on egg chasers being STEW-PIDS, you said yourself the Club offered loads egg'chasers Stew-pids jobs, Bring back Mack Namara I say!!!

see how quickly you bring that up, 'is it cause i is black', if your happy to live as one of lifes victims roll the dice see how far it gets you, but trust me it doesnt get you very far. You insist on calling me a STEW-PID play on words very funny i get it. The thing you dont realise about me is ive lived a life some people dream of and some people wouldnt dream of doing. I enjoy being a steward, I became a steward when I found myself in financial difficulties and i couldnt afford my season ticket anymore so instead of just stop going to the football i chose to work at it as a steward for 2 reasons
1 i got to see my beloved cardiff play every week
2 i got payed money for it which helped my financial situation
If you want to criticise me for that go ahead role the dice see how far it gets you.
As far as stewards from cardiff blues working at the CCS i think its probably 1 in 10 so either you have the worst luck in the world or your just paranoid.
As for McNamara he was Sam Hammams personal bodyguard f**k all to do with stewarding so that blows that arguement out the water, bring him back if you want if the boardroom want to use his services you wont get a complaint off me.
Learn some humility, learn that there are rules in this world that like it or not you have to live by.
I used to have a lot of respect for you not so much anymore because you have no respect for me and no realisation that people have a job to do and whether you like the rules at a football match or not these are the rules and untill they change get used to them. Plus surprise surprise i dont always like the rules but im employed to enforce them.

i agree that there should b safe standing areas at grounds,
i believe germany has them, no problems there as far as i know.
As for it being dangerous to stand in seated areas, I was sat in very top tier at wembley versus barnsley
and at the final whistle I stood up to applaud City team, and somehow, lost my footing and i ended up falling over the empty seat in the row in front of me, nearly broke my arm. Its very steep incline up there, what if somebody had been standing up in that empty seat in row in front of me, i might have caused a domino effect

I Hate standing period, When I bought My ST for the Grangend NP it was because I liked to stand and all things Football, We must remember that the Hillsborough tragedy was not the fault of the Ground/Terracing or layout, It was the WY Police that decided to open the gates before kick off and allow thousands of Liverpool Fans into an already full to capacity area, That is why most Family's of the victims have demanded justice from the Police and not Hillsborough/SWFC as it was no fault of the Football ground. It has always been said that shifting blame on stadia's was a scapegoat that allowed the real reason to for the tragedy (WY Police) to go unscathed. I have noticed at the CCS that there are a considerable amount of new faces among the stewards, I know some of the old Stewards are City Fans but the attitude on those at the CCS seem to have no understanding of Football Supporters more than most stewards elsewhere? I have a sneaky suspicion that the majority of Stewards at the CCS are not only egg Chasers, but egg Chasing Players that take great pleasure in spoiling the Footy Boy's day. I dont like the bloody place anyway:

utter rubbish what is peoples problems with stewards
yes there are good stewards yes there are bad stewards
we are responsible for spectator safety and follow the laws set out by the government and other relevant authorities and at the moment they have decided that standing at a football ground is dangerous so we operate under that
you cant drink in view of the pitch why thats a law i dont know but it is
Cardiff Blues stewards were offered the opportunity to work at the CCS but unless they only work the rugby games there arent many of them. I dont work during the rugby games only steward the football.
Apart from the old NP steward team which I was part of a lot of stewards are students.
The idea that stewards are out to ruin your day is stupid you only meet me if your becoming a problem to safety or breaking the law and trust me yould rather see me than the OB cause they dont f**k about.
Plus the fact you keep reiterating that you dont attend the CCS as you have your own personal ban (im sure i read that in one of your posts) your not really qualified to comment on how stewards ruin your day out because your not there to have it ruined.

Seems Iv touched on a live nerve, The thing is i wouldn't expect anything but a winge from a Stew-pid'''Some one that has'nt missed a game for years, Not like Myself I PAY to support/whatch My team, You get payed to whatch my Team, If I decide enough is enough of all the boll'x and the pomp at the CCS then people like yourself that have the privilege to actually get paid to be at a Cardiff City Football Match SHOULD RESPECT My view. You have NO credence here let alone tell me about qualifications, YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT READ MY POST PROPERLY where I mention My Self Ban'' I didnt go for the game or part with money for the Club, I only went to pay My respects to a fellow Cardiff City Fan, Fekal would make Me go to that feking vibeless over priced flatpack load of sh'te thats all but CARDIFF CITY, And as for rather seeing you than the old bill, I say you would rather see the old bill than see Me' TWERP.

no didnt touch a nerve mate just cant stand some of the garbage that people say about stewards
and i read your post just fine
your obviously one of the more paranoid type of supporter
1 didnt realise you owned the club its not exclusively owned by you think you will find its OUR club and whatever capacity you support it in is your own personal choice
2 been supporting cardiff since a boy ive seen a lot of games home and away havent always been a steward
3 you think the CCS is a dump fine dont turn up shows how little you think of cardiff really
4 how you manage to blame everything on stewards is rather interesting in your head they are all bully boy rugby players who seem to have a vendetta against you (keep off the weed mate, paranoia to the extreme)
5 what else can you blame on stewards, the fact of the matter is we do a job thats it you dont like what we do in our job dont attack the knife point aim for the handle. Your not going to get anywhere having a go at stewards you want to change how things are done at the football aim a little higher than the stewards aim for the people who actually run the club
6 how you turned my you would rather see me than the old bill into some sort of a threat not really sure as it was a piece of advice, but ill take on board you threat to me, which i dont really have to worry about because you dont come to the ground

Now what T Fook give's you the impression I smoke weed??? Because I'm Black' Got Dreadlocks? feking Twerp'' Thats why your a Stew-pid and Im a Fan, And as you seem to be a typical Stew-pid in stereo, your small mind tricks you into stereo typing City Fans like Myself, There are enough people on here that can categorically tell you I don't smoke as say weed''''' . And as for the comment I made on egg chasers being STEW-PIDS, you said yourself the Club offered loads egg'chasers Stew-pids jobs, Bring back Mack Namara I say!!!

see how quickly you bring that up, 'is it cause i is black', if your happy to live as one of lifes victims roll the dice see how far it gets you, but trust me it doesnt get you very far. You insist on calling me a STEW-PID play on words very funny i get it. The thing you dont realise about me is ive lived a life some people dream of and some people wouldnt dream of doing. I enjoy being a steward, I became a steward when I found myself in financial difficulties and i couldnt afford my season ticket anymore so instead of just stop going to the football i chose to work at it as a steward for 2 reasons
1 i got to see my beloved cardiff play every week
2 i got payed money for it which helped my financial situation
If you want to criticise me for that go ahead role the dice see how far it gets you.
As far as stewards from cardiff blues working at the CCS i think its probably 1 in 10 so either you have the worst luck in the world or your just paranoid.
As for McNamara he was Sam Hammams personal bodyguard f**k all to do with stewarding so that blows that arguement out the water, bring him back if you want if the boardroom want to use his services you wont get a complaint off me.
Learn some humility, learn that there are rules in this world that like it or not you have to live by.
I used to have a lot of respect for you not so much anymore because you have no respect for me and no realisation that people have a job to do and whether you like the rules at a football match or not these are the rules and untill they change get used to them. Plus surprise surprise i dont always like the rules but im employed to enforce them.

Fek you still lecturing on the rules and regulations of being (DIE) Throwing oddball that seems to have board too many games in his life, I read a book about a guy that lived His live by the throw of the (DIE) And you seem to be trying emulate that caractor, Dont make that clown in the book be your role model, It all went pear for him in the end!!!