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Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 9:39 am

Last summer we were on our knees and only because of the Malaysians did we get into the season without administration and with a squad.

Where was Sam then to wipe off the debt and invest money??

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 9:50 am

stuckster wrote:Last summer we were on our knees and only because of the Malaysians did we get into the season without administration and with a squad.

Where was Sam then to wipe off the debt and invest money??

Last Summer the club were in trouble but we had already a presence of the Malaysians, in TG, who has been actively involved since September 2009.

And throughout that time Sam Hammam worked with Peter Ridsdale on renegotiating the Langston loan note which gave the club the option to settle the debt at a far lower amount.

Peter Ridsdale was asked to get a lower amount for the potential investors and he done that but the club did not then take the option up.

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 10:17 am

Thanks Carl,

Was this current offer on the table last summer?

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 10:20 am

stuckster wrote:Thanks Carl,

Was this current offer on the table last summer?

Yes.

I, along with Annis, Vince, Gwyn and Mogs met with Sam Hammam over the course of 2 days covering June 21st/22nd and the offer was to pay the loan note off by Dec 31st 2010 for a much reduced rate, that offer was not taken up.

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 10:20 am

carlccfc wrote:
stuckster wrote:Last summer we were on our knees and only because of the Malaysians did we get into the season without administration and with a squad.

Where was Sam then to wipe off the debt and invest money??

Last Summer the club were in trouble but we had already a presence of the Malaysians, in TG, who has been actively involved since September 2009.

And throughout that time Sam Hammam worked with Peter Ridsdale on renegotiating the Langston loan note which gave the club the option to settle the debt at a far lower amount.

Peter Ridsdale was asked to get a lower amount for the potential investors and he done that but the club did not then take the option up.

the malaysians first input of cash was by tg in november and amounted to 250k for which tg was made a director by ridsdale without tg's prior knowledge.
at the muni meeting ridsdale said that the malaysians had invested millions that day which was another of his blatant lies.

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 10:27 am

steve davies wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
stuckster wrote:Last summer we were on our knees and only because of the Malaysians did we get into the season without administration and with a squad.

Where was Sam then to wipe off the debt and invest money??

Last Summer the club were in trouble but we had already a presence of the Malaysians, in TG, who has been actively involved since September 2009.

And throughout that time Sam Hammam worked with Peter Ridsdale on renegotiating the Langston loan note which gave the club the option to settle the debt at a far lower amount.

Peter Ridsdale was asked to get a lower amount for the potential investors and he done that but the club did not then take the option up.

the malaysians first input of cash was by tg in november and amounted to 250k for which tg was made a director by ridsdale without tg's prior knowledge.
at the muni meeting ridsdale said that the malaysians had invested millions that day which was another of his blatant lies.

Steve, TG was actively involved earlier than that but did not as you say put money forward until November and TG did not become a director until Feb/March 2010 and would you not think that TG signed the paperwork that made him a director and you know as I do there was a deal which the club could have taken up to pay Langston off by Dec 31st at a reduced rate and that the club chose not to do so.

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 10:31 am

Sorry Carl at cross purposes,

I meant was the offer of completely wiping the debt and coming back into the club, was that on offer last summer?

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 10:33 am

stuckster wrote:Sorry Carl at cross purposes,

I meant was the offer of completely wiping the debt and coming back into the club, was that on offer last summer?

Yes but as part of negotiations, it was one of a number of offers made.

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 10:38 am

Okay thanks.

Just only now that part of deal has been publicised.

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 10:49 am

]Last summer we were on our knees and only because of the Malaysians did we get into the season without administration and with a squad.

Where was Sam then to wipe off the debt and invest money??
Last Summer the club were in trouble but we had already a presence of the Malaysians, in TG, who has been actively involved since September 2009.

And throughout that time Sam Hammam worked with Peter Ridsdale on renegotiating the Langston loan note which gave the club the option to settle the debt at a far lower amount.

Peter Ridsdale was asked to get a lower amount for the potential investors and he done that but the club did not then take the option up.
the malaysians first input of cash was by tg in november and amounted to 250k for which tg was made a director by ridsdale without tg's prior knowledge.
at the muni meeting ridsdale said that the malaysians had invested millions that day which was another of his blatant lies.[/
Steve, TG was actively involved earlier than that but did not as you say put money forward until November and TG did not become a director until Feb/March 2010 and would you not think that TG signed the paperwork that made him a director and you know as I do there was a deal which the club could have taken up to pay Langston off by Dec 31st at a reduced rate and that the club chose not to do so.[/quote]







carl

i never have at any stage seen any documentation regarding this new deal and although you have been privvy to this i have always asked if there were signatures on the documentation otherwise they were just proposals and not bona fide agreements between all parties.
The fact that sam sat down and showed you this what was suppossed to be a private deal between the club and langston is a clear indication that the malaysians could never trust that their club business would ever be kept confidential when having sam on board

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 11:48 am

Correct me if I'm wrong but did Sam Hammam claim that he was NOT Langston and had NO IDEA who Langston were many years ago. THEN he came out and admitted he did and he was. How anyone can believe a word that person says is beyond me.

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 11:53 am

The Jackel wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but did Sam Hammam claim that he was NOT Langston and had NO IDEA who Langston were many years ago. THEN he came out and admitted he did and he was. How anyone can believe a word that person says is beyond me.

Sam is not Langston.

Sam has never claimed he does not know who they are.

Sam has never ever said that he is Langston.

I believe him.

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 12:08 pm

carlccfc wrote:
The Jackel wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but did Sam Hammam claim that he was NOT Langston and had NO IDEA who Langston were many years ago. THEN he came out and admitted he did and he was. How anyone can believe a word that person says is beyond me.

Sam is not Langston.

Sam has never claimed he does not know who they are.

Sam has never ever said that he is Langston.

I believe him.

carl
how can you make a statement that sam is not langston
you can only make that statement if you know the identity of the langston people
a high court judge who had access to all the evidence concluded in his summing up that if the matter ever went to the high court and there was full disclosure on langstons part then in his opinion sam and langston would be one and the same.
though of course the fact that sam has a business called rudgwick limited and lives on rudgwick terrace and has family that live in the usa on a street called langston is just an incredible coincidence

Re: Question for Annis/Carl

Sat May 28, 2011 12:12 pm

carlccfc wrote:
The Jackel wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but did Sam Hammam claim that he was NOT Langston and had NO IDEA who Langston were many years ago. THEN he came out and admitted he did and he was. How anyone can believe a word that person says is beyond me.

Sam is not Langston.

Sam has never claimed he does not know who they are.

Sam has never ever said that he is Langston.

I believe him.



So he is not Langston, does not know who Langston are.

The debt we owe is to Langston and if hammam was allowed a return to the club that debt would be wiped.

Come on this is getting silly.