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Sun May 15, 2011 1:43 pm
my missus did it yesterday in her new 207 car, it was almost empty and she put £30 in and drove 20 miles before it started to splutter, its her lease car, so shes having to wait til next week to know what happens
does any one know if much damage would of occured??
cheers
Sun May 15, 2011 1:44 pm
westsussexbird wrote:my missus did it yesterday in her new 207 car, it was almost empty and she put £30 in and drove 20 miles before it started to splutter, its her lease car, so shes having to wait til next week to know what happens
does any one know if much damage would of occured??
cheers
better than putting diesel in a petrol thats all I know
Sun May 15, 2011 1:45 pm
top it right up to full tank with diesel now and you might get away with it
Sun May 15, 2011 1:50 pm
You wont get away with that much, thats about half a tank i imagine, thing is diesel acts as a lubricant for the engine and petrol can do real damage, if it was a small amount id say fill it with diesel but half a tank u would need to get it drained and pray! Especially if shes driven 20 miles as the petrol is around the system.
Sun May 15, 2011 1:50 pm
There should be a bungg at the bottom of the tank, iff you unscrew it and get all the unleaded out then fill it up with Diesel , if it starts it should splutter a little but then it should burn off and start to go again after a long run but dont push it. Good luck
Sun May 15, 2011 1:50 pm
prob is, she rang her lease company and they picked it up and took to peug, she has to pay, i got told itl just get flushed, would it of caused much damage to car??
Sun May 15, 2011 1:50 pm
Try syphoning it out ASAP - rule of thumb seemed to be < 10% of capacity you may get away with it by filling with diesel to dilute.
However... picked these bits up online.
Don't drive it. Diesel has a lubricating quality, whereas petrol acts as a cleaner, so your pump will sieze up rapidly. Petrol in a diesel car is much worse than the other way round. Draining the tank and changing the filters sounds like the best course of action.
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Petrol in a diesel engine
Breakdown organisations put the figure of petrol misfuelling at around 150,000 cars a year, with repair bills totalling hundreds of millions of pounds.
Petrol will strip your diesel engine of the lubricant used to keep it ticking over and cause metal components to grate against each other and disintegrate.
This runs the risk of damaging the fuel pump and fuel-injection systems, or wrecking an engine completely if used for a significant amount of time.
To make matters worse pre-ignition systems start fuel pumps in new diesel models when car doors are unlocked. This cuts out the time it takes for new diesel engines to warm up, but means that diesel engines can be ruined by petrol by simply unlocking doors.
The fuel pump and injection systems and filters will likely need to be replaced on new models, while an entire engine could be wrecked beyond repair if it has been run for long enough. Regardless of the extent of the damage, the repair bill could potentially run into thousands of pounds.
Avoiding turning the engine over or stopping as soon as possible is vital to prevent more damage to the engine in these circumstances. A fuel-tank drain could be sufficient in such cases to prevent damage.
Sun May 15, 2011 1:52 pm
westsussexbird wrote:prob is, she rang her lease company and they picked it up and took to peug, she has to pay, i got told itl just get flushed, would it of caused much damage to car??
Depends on the milage and amount.
Simplest scenario, they'd just need to drain, keeping the petrol obviously, and filling with diesel.
Medium case scenario, maybe they'd change filter, seals as a precaution.
Worst case, looking at a very hefty engine repair bill.
Sun May 15, 2011 1:53 pm
nerd wrote:westsussexbird wrote:prob is, she rang her lease company and they picked it up and took to peug, she has to pay, i got told itl just get flushed, would it of caused much damage to car??
Depends on the milage and amount.
Simplest scenario, they'd just need to drain, keeping the petrol obviously, and filling with diesel.
Medium case scenario, maybe they'd change filter, seals as a precaution.
Worst case, looking at a very hefty engine repair bill.
i wont mention the last bit to her, shes in a state as it is
Sun May 15, 2011 1:55 pm
if you want to educate her, at bedtime slip it up her poop chute - "sorry love, wrong fuel..."...
Don't want to worry you unduly, but if it's a lease car, and they are handling the work, then chances are they'll try to profit out of it. If she'd spoken to staff at the petrol station they may have been able to do something or even just take the car to a back street garage, hell, even a bit of DIY.
Sun May 15, 2011 2:33 pm
westsussexbird wrote:prob is, she rang her lease company and they picked it up and took to peug, she has to pay, i got told itl just get flushed, would it of caused much damage to car??
It all depends on how far she went with it and how fast the engine was working, I would say she she be ok as long as she didn't hear anything go. But I thought in gas stations today ,that the petrol wont fit into diesel car, I thought this was a safety thing at the pumps.
Sun May 15, 2011 3:00 pm
westsussexbird wrote:prob is, she rang her lease company and they picked it up and took to peug, she has to pay, i got told itl just get flushed, would it of caused much damage to car??
A lad i used to work with did it in a peugeot partner van that was taken to a peugeot dealer and they charged about 500 notes
Sun May 15, 2011 3:02 pm
welshcitydragon wrote:westsussexbird wrote:prob is, she rang her lease company and they picked it up and took to peug, she has to pay, i got told itl just get flushed, would it of caused much damage to car??
It all depends on how far she went with it and how fast the engine was working, I would say she she be ok as long as she didn't hear anything go. But I thought in gas stations today ,that the petrol wont fit into diesel car, I thought this was a safety thing at the pumps.
I think its the other way round diesel pumps wont fit in an unleaded
Sun May 15, 2011 3:58 pm
rb1976 wrote:westsussexbird wrote:my missus did it yesterday in her new 207 car, it was almost empty and she put £30 in and drove 20 miles before it started to splutter, its her lease car, so shes having to wait til next week to know what happens
does any one know if much damage would of occured??
cheers
better than putting diesel in a petrol thats all I know
Wrong!
worst is putting unleaded in a diesel! sometimes you can get away with a little bit mixed in the diesel - but the most damage would have occured because the tank was almost empty and she ran 20 miles on it! The petrol crystalises in the injectors as petrol is designed to explode, where diesel only burns.............. So you would have destroyed all the lubricant properties in the injectors.
My sister filled a car up with unleaded and done exactly the same- 10-15 miles the thing cut out! peugeot 206 HDi as well... there was £650 worth of damage to the pump and injectors.
Expect the worse.
(quick story - I used to work in Ford newport rd, selling new cars, customer came in picked up a new £20k Galaxy, took it round to sainsburys and filled it up with petrol!- Rang us up to tell us, and we couldnt help but laugh later.... Week after the damage was assessed - £4500 worth of damage to all major parts of the fuel system!)
Sun May 15, 2011 4:01 pm
Or you can just put a petrol engine in your car

. Saves draining the tank

Happy to help Chief
Sun May 15, 2011 4:02 pm
Sorry mate , expensive job , they will replace a number of parts but its a strip out
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