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dave jones leaves

Thu May 12, 2011 12:36 am

to back up a point Annis made earlier i heard a sniff that DJ would be axed end of season promotion or not.

In terms of his replacement i haven't heard much but if i was a betting man which i defo am :P i would not fancy our chances of gettin a top class manager in ie warnock, martin o neill, curbishley, di matteo

i say this as based on the amount of players we are to lose this summer, all loans, burke, matthews, possibly bellers, bothroyd

i cannot see many managers takin over with the squad minus these key players, especially when the board will give target of auto promotion, plus do i see VT putting yet more money in to strengthen squad ie high wages or transfer fees?? NO I DON'T he is a businessman and a bit of a gambler as in business u need to take risks and for nearly 2 years at cardiff he has taken the big risks to try and reach the promised land but if it doesn't come off again then if he decides to stay on at cardiff city football club will have to tighten his belt otherwise our debts will contiue to spiral, i believe at present we owe him around £30m based on what i have read from carl in the past, this is ludicrous over 1 1/2 seasons we simply must tighten our belts!!!

if not and TAN pulls out we are in worse mess than before topping £60m in debt once more, and if my info serves me rightyl he has secured debt against assets, ie the stadium NOT good if we fial to pay he can force ground sale etc messy business all ifs and buts but in my opinion he has gambled so far as in business u must take risks for the big time but at some point u need to level things off and get back to reality the end of this season could be that point!!

Re: dave jones leaves

Thu May 12, 2011 12:45 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:to back up a point Annis made earlier i heard a sniff that DJ would be axed end of season promotion or not.

In terms of his replacement i haven't heard much but if i was a betting man which i defo am :P i would not fancy our chances of gettin a top class manager in ie warnock, martin o neill, curbishley, di matteo

i say this as based on the amount of players we are to lose this summer, all loans, burke, matthews, possibly bellers, bothroyd

i cannot see many managers takin over with the squad minus these key players, especially when the board will give target of auto promotion, plus do i see VT putting yet more money in to strengthen squad ie high wages or transfer fees?? NO I DON'T he is a businessman and a bit of a gambler as in business u need to take risks and for nearly 2 years at cardiff he has taken the big risks to try and reach the promised land but if it doesn't come off again then if he decides to stay on at cardiff city football club will have to tighten his belt otherwise our debts will contiue to spiral, i believe at present we owe him around £30m based on what i have read from carl in the past, this is ludicrous over 1 1/2 seasons we simply must tighten our belts!!!

if not and TAN pulls out we are in worse mess than before topping £60m in debt once more, and if my info serves me rightyl he has secured debt against assets, ie the stadium NOT good if we fial to pay he can force ground sale etc messy business all ifs and buts but in my opinion he has gambled so far as in business u must take risks for the big time but at some point u need to level things off and get back to reality the end of this season could be that point!!


to be honest i actually thinkthe malaysians will splash the cash if we go up! They want to attract some relatively well known players to attract fans from malaysia to support us which is a big priority of theres! I dont think we would go crazy but I think we would be pleasantly surprised with some of the players we would bring in! As for the players out of contract and/or leaving i wont be shedding a tear for any of them!

Re: dave jones leaves

Thu May 12, 2011 12:55 am

In terms of his replacement i haven't heard much but if i was a betting man which i defo am i would not fancy our chances of gettin a top class manager in ie warnock, martin o neill, curbishley, di matteo


Firstly the only one of them I would class as a top class manager is O'Neil

Secondly if none of them think they are capable of bring in players like DJ has this season on loan doesnt that suggest we are currently undervaluing our current manager.

Re: dave jones leaves

Thu May 12, 2011 8:13 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:to back up a point Annis made earlier i heard a sniff that DJ would be axed end of season promotion or not.

In terms of his replacement i haven't heard much but if i was a betting man which i defo am :P i would not fancy our chances of gettin a top class manager in ie warnock, martin o neill, curbishley, di matteo

i say this as based on the amount of players we are to lose this summer, all loans, burke, matthews, possibly bellers, bothroyd

i cannot see many managers takin over with the squad minus these key players, especially when the board will give target of auto promotion, plus do i see VT putting yet more money in to strengthen squad ie high wages or transfer fees?? NO I DON'T he is a businessman and a bit of a gambler as in business u need to take risks and for nearly 2 years at cardiff he has taken the big risks to try and reach the promised land but if it doesn't come off again then if he decides to stay on at cardiff city football club will have to tighten his belt otherwise our debts will contiue to spiral, i believe at present we owe him around £30m based on what i have read from carl in the past, this is ludicrous over 1 1/2 seasons we simply must tighten our belts!!!

if not and TAN pulls out we are in worse mess than before topping £60m in debt once more, and if my info serves me rightyl he has secured debt against assets, ie the stadium NOT good if we fial to pay he can force ground sale etc messy business all ifs and buts but in my opinion he has gambled so far as in business u must take risks for the big time but at some point u need to level things off and get back to reality the end of this season could be that point!!


Axed is the wrong word .... leaving by choice would be a better term if thats the case that is.

Re: dave jones leaves

Thu May 12, 2011 8:16 am

Daya wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:to back up a point Annis made earlier i heard a sniff that DJ would be axed end of season promotion or not.

In terms of his replacement i haven't heard much but if i was a betting man which i defo am :P i would not fancy our chances of gettin a top class manager in ie warnock, martin o neill, curbishley, di matteo

i say this as based on the amount of players we are to lose this summer, all loans, burke, matthews, possibly bellers, bothroyd

i cannot see many managers takin over with the squad minus these key players, especially when the board will give target of auto promotion, plus do i see VT putting yet more money in to strengthen squad ie high wages or transfer fees?? NO I DON'T he is a businessman and a bit of a gambler as in business u need to take risks and for nearly 2 years at cardiff he has taken the big risks to try and reach the promised land but if it doesn't come off again then if he decides to stay on at cardiff city football club will have to tighten his belt otherwise our debts will contiue to spiral, i believe at present we owe him around £30m based on what i have read from carl in the past, this is ludicrous over 1 1/2 seasons we simply must tighten our belts!!!

if not and TAN pulls out we are in worse mess than before topping £60m in debt once more, and if my info serves me rightyl he has secured debt against assets, ie the stadium NOT good if we fial to pay he can force ground sale etc messy business all ifs and buts but in my opinion he has gambled so far as in business u must take risks for the big time but at some point u need to level things off and get back to reality the end of this season could be that point!!


Axed is the wrong word .... leaving by choice would be a better term if thats the case that is.




steve

as afar as ive known there has always been a promotion or parting of the ways agreement in place from the start of the season.
in light of events during the season i think a parting of the ways would happen even if we go up

Re: dave jones leaves

Thu May 12, 2011 8:18 am

steve davies wrote:
Daya wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:to back up a point Annis made earlier i heard a sniff that DJ would be axed end of season promotion or not.

In terms of his replacement i haven't heard much but if i was a betting man which i defo am :P i would not fancy our chances of gettin a top class manager in ie warnock, martin o neill, curbishley, di matteo

i say this as based on the amount of players we are to lose this summer, all loans, burke, matthews, possibly bellers, bothroyd

i cannot see many managers takin over with the squad minus these key players, especially when the board will give target of auto promotion, plus do i see VT putting yet more money in to strengthen squad ie high wages or transfer fees?? NO I DON'T he is a businessman and a bit of a gambler as in business u need to take risks and for nearly 2 years at cardiff he has taken the big risks to try and reach the promised land but if it doesn't come off again then if he decides to stay on at cardiff city football club will have to tighten his belt otherwise our debts will contiue to spiral, i believe at present we owe him around £30m based on what i have read from carl in the past, this is ludicrous over 1 1/2 seasons we simply must tighten our belts!!!

if not and TAN pulls out we are in worse mess than before topping £60m in debt once more, and if my info serves me rightyl he has secured debt against assets, ie the stadium NOT good if we fial to pay he can force ground sale etc messy business all ifs and buts but in my opinion he has gambled so far as in business u must take risks for the big time but at some point u need to level things off and get back to reality the end of this season could be that point!!


Axed is the wrong word .... leaving by choice would be a better term if thats the case that is.




steve

as afar as ive known there has always been a promotion or parting of the ways agreement in place from the start of the season.
in light of events during the season i think a parting of the ways would happen even if we go up


Agree mate - and i would " imagine" hes off to a relegated prem club with a desire to go straight back up.

Re: dave jones leaves

Thu May 12, 2011 9:16 am

2blue2handle wrote:
In terms of his replacement i haven't heard much but if i was a betting man which i defo am i would not fancy our chances of gettin a top class manager in ie warnock, martin o neill, curbishley, di matteo


Firstly the only one of them I would class as a top class manager is O'Neil

Secondly if none of them think they are capable of bring in players like DJ has this season on loan doesnt that suggest we are currently undervaluing our current manager.



But even O'neil has his limitations, only seems to play counter attack football even at home matches

Re: dave jones leaves

Thu May 12, 2011 10:28 am

cardiff uber alles wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
In terms of his replacement i haven't heard much but if i was a betting man which i defo am i would not fancy our chances of gettin a top class manager in ie warnock, martin o neill, curbishley, di matteo


Firstly the only one of them I would class as a top class manager is O'Neil

Secondly if none of them think they are capable of bring in players like DJ has this season on loan doesnt that suggest we are currently undervaluing our current manager.



But even O'neil has his limitations, only seems to play counter attack football even at home matches


Just like Reading do.

Re: dave jones leaves

Fri May 13, 2011 2:02 pm

wheres the rest of this thread gone ??

Re: dave jones leaves

Fri May 13, 2011 2:26 pm

Steve, Daya , that is pretty sad answering your own posts all the time :? :? :? :? :?

Re: dave jones leaves

Fri May 13, 2011 2:42 pm

you know as well as i do cheif somones deleted half the thread hahahahahaha

Re: dave jones leaves

Fri May 13, 2011 3:12 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Steve, Daya , that is pretty sad answering your own posts all the time :? :? :? :? :?


What the f**k are you on about ? Stop fcking shit stirring bollox Nuke .

Re: dave jones leaves

Fri May 13, 2011 3:24 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Steve, Daya , that is pretty sad answering your own posts all the time :? :? :? :? :?


Come on Chief - what u on about ?

Re: dave jones leaves

Fri May 13, 2011 3:30 pm

Daya wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Steve, Daya , that is pretty sad answering your own posts all the time :? :? :? :? :?


Come on Chief - what u on about ?

Nice to see you answering a question that wasn't asked by yourself Sheriff. :lol:

Re: dave jones leaves

Fri May 13, 2011 3:34 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
Daya wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Steve, Daya , that is pretty sad answering your own posts all the time :? :? :? :? :?


Come on Chief - what u on about ?

Nice to see you answering a question that wasn't asked by yourself Sheriff. :lol:


Your dreaming Chief!!!! you been listening to Dimbutt too much , or longlegs or whatever hes calls himself - oh aye his last one was Ben Steel Minted .