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THE TRUTH ABOUT BOOZE AND SPORT!

Wed May 04, 2011 5:07 pm

IT DOESNT MIX - END OF! ...... i`m an ex-welsh international runner that won a british veteran title in 2007 along with many welsh titles and even in 2009 at the age of 43 came 88th in the london marathon and i know first hand that booze and sport doesnt mix! .... i very rarely drank during my running years and at one time went 2 years without drinking so that i could reach my true protental.... i didnt drink because i used to run between 80 and 100 miles a week in training and if id went on the piss [like our players do] then the quality of my training sessions would have dropped and also my overall physical condition ..... thing is every training session was important for me to be in tip top shape when it came to race day! e.g, hill work, speed work, long runs, short runs, etc.... if I HAD gone out and got DRUNK the next two days training would have suffered and in one year id be losing 104 days of quality training days ... TIMES that by two drunken nights and id be looking at 208 sub standard training days and a FAILED RUNNING CAREER 100% .... SO ITS NO SURPRISE TO ME WHAT HAPPENED V MIDDLESBOROUGH AND I DONT SEE IT GETTING ANY BETTER! ... SEE YOU IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP AGAIN NEXT SEASON MICHAEL CHOPRA AND GANG! BUT WITH DIFFERENT CLUBS!

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Wed May 04, 2011 5:16 pm

Yep coudlnt agree more.
When I played football I couldnt drink for 48 hrs before a match or I would notice a huge effect on performance.
I managed to stay in and not drink and it wasnt even my full time job.

I cant believe its true that these boys went out the weekend before such a big game. I just cant believe.
Desnt mean I dont believe it though if you know what I mean.

FFS they wil be on holiday soon enough.

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Wed May 04, 2011 5:20 pm

griff105 wrote:Yep coudlnt agree more.
When I played football I couldnt drink for 48 hrs before a match or I would notice a huge effect on performance.
I managed to stay in and not drink and it wasnt even my full time job.

I cant believe its true that these boys went out the weekend before such a big game. I just cant believe.
Desnt mean I dont believe it though if you know what I mean.

FFS they wil be on holiday soon enough.


I think you have hit the nail on the head. Perhaps some players are continually on "holiday"!

Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT BOOZE AND SPORT!

Wed May 04, 2011 5:21 pm

griff105 wrote:Yep coudlnt agree more.
When I played football I couldnt drink for 48 hrs before a match or I would notice a huge effect on performance.
I managed to stay in and not drink and it wasnt even my full time job.

I cant believe its true that these boys went out the weekend before such a big game. I just cant believe.
Desnt mean I dont believe it though if you know what I mean.

FFS they wil be on holiday soon enough.

I think the main difference is WE CARED and THEY DONT!

Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT BOOZE AND SPORT!

Wed May 04, 2011 5:25 pm

Yep, spot on.

Good post.

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Wed May 04, 2011 5:27 pm

AHERNE wrote:
griff105 wrote:Yep coudlnt agree more.
When I played football I couldnt drink for 48 hrs before a match or I would notice a huge effect on performance.
I managed to stay in and not drink and it wasnt even my full time job.

I cant believe its true that these boys went out the weekend before such a big game. I just cant believe.
Desnt mean I dont believe it though if you know what I mean.

FFS they wil be on holiday soon enough.

I think the main difference is WE CARED and THEY DONT!


Just makes your head spin.
I wish we knew for sure who what and when though.
We should be careful not to tar them all with the same brush.
The guilty should be exposed and sacked. (and slung in the taff!)

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Wed May 04, 2011 5:29 pm

Great post Ahearne & spot on. To come 88th at VLM is something else & the disciipline & hard work to get to that level is tremendous. I've ran 18 marathons myself & although i'm nowhere near your standard have always been disciplined in the run up to a event & i'm only doing it for my personal pleasure, these guys are paid thousands!Can't they wait until the end of the season?

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Wed May 04, 2011 5:31 pm

f*cking hell Aherne that for me was your best ever post and i agree with you 100%. That was spot on :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed May 04, 2011 5:34 pm

bluebirds over.... wrote:Great post Ahearne & spot on. To come 88th at VLM is something else & the disciipline & hard work to get to that level is tremendous. I've ran 18 marathons myself & although i'm nowhere near your standard have always been disciplined in the run up to a event & i'm only doing it for my personal pleasure, these guys are paid thousands!Can't they wait until the end of the season?

thats the trouble THEY EARN TOO MUCH and maybe they love the celebrity status that comes with it! [WOMEN] .... btw well done on your 18 marathons, ive only did 3 and hated everyone of them! :lol: :ayatollah:

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Wed May 04, 2011 5:57 pm

Aherne sadly your right with all the exposure this has had in the main papers,radio etc its embarassing. I suppose it will either make them think twice or they wont give a rats arse and if thats the case they can just p...s off :oops:

Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT BOOZE AND SPORT!

Wed May 04, 2011 6:10 pm

AHERNE wrote:IT DOESNT MIX - END OF! ...... i`m an ex-welsh international runner that won a british veteran title in 2007 along with many welsh titles and even in 2009 at the age of 43 came 88th in the london marathon and i know first hand that booze and sport doesnt mix! .... i very rarely drank during my running years and at one time went 2 years without drinking so that i could reach my true protental.... i didnt drink because i used to run between 80 and 100 miles a week in training and if id went on the piss [like our players do] then the quality of my training sessions would have dropped and also my overall physical condition ..... thing is every training session was important for me to be in tip top shape when it came to race day! e.g, hill work, speed work, long runs, short runs, etc.... if I HAD gone out and got DRUNK the next two days training would have suffered and in one year id be losing 104 days of quality training days ... TIMES that by two drunken nights and id be looking at 208 sub standard training days and a FAILED RUNNING CAREER 100% .... SO ITS NO SURPRISE TO ME WHAT HAPPENED V MIDDLESBOROUGH AND I DONT SEE IT GETTING ANY BETTER! ... SEE YOU IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP AGAIN NEXT SEASON MICHAEL CHOPRA AND GANG! BUT WITH DIFFERENT CLUBS!


Great post it sounds like you have rally dedicated yourself to your training regime and it paid off for you well done. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Something that has interested me about this story is could the club put some sort testing regime in place to spot the signs of this problem. I'm not talking about any sort of breath test I mean some other test like is the player dehydrated if yes why?

My understanding and I admit it is less than limited is that even a small amount of alcohol can remain in the body for 3 days and can affect hydration levels which in turn can affect energy and alertness. It's probably bullshit but I think I read it somewhere but hopefully your experience could help me understand more about the impact.

I think the article I read was on sports science and how believe it or not Sam Allerdyce was using different methods to monitor players fitness energy levels etc. Can it be tested in this modern age and if the answer is yes do you think it would be beneficial at the club.

Hope you don't mind me asking. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed May 04, 2011 6:32 pm

castleblue wrote:
AHERNE wrote:IT DOESNT MIX - END OF! ...... i`m an ex-welsh international runner that won a british veteran title in 2007 along with many welsh titles and even in 2009 at the age of 43 came 88th in the london marathon and i know first hand that booze and sport doesnt mix! .... i very rarely drank during my running years and at one time went 2 years without drinking so that i could reach my true protental.... i didnt drink because i used to run between 80 and 100 miles a week in training and if id went on the piss [like our players do] then the quality of my training sessions would have dropped and also my overall physical condition ..... thing is every training session was important for me to be in tip top shape when it came to race day! e.g, hill work, speed work, long runs, short runs, etc.... if I HAD gone out and got DRUNK the next two days training would have suffered and in one year id be losing 104 days of quality training days ... TIMES that by two drunken nights and id be looking at 208 sub standard training days and a FAILED RUNNING CAREER 100% .... SO ITS NO SURPRISE TO ME WHAT HAPPENED V MIDDLESBOROUGH AND I DONT SEE IT GETTING ANY BETTER! ... SEE YOU IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP AGAIN NEXT SEASON MICHAEL CHOPRA AND GANG! BUT WITH DIFFERENT CLUBS!


Great post it sounds like you have rally dedicated yourself to your training regime and it paid off for you well done. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Something that has interested me about this story is could the club put some sort testing regime in place to spot the signs of this problem. I'm not talking about any sort of breath test I mean some other test like is the player dehydrated if yes why?

My understanding and I admit it is less than limited is that even a small amount of alcohol can remain in the body for 3 days and can affect hydration levels which in turn can affect energy and alertness. It's probably bullshit but I think I read it somewhere but hopefully your experience could help me understand more about the impact.

I think the article I read was on sports science and how believe it or not Sam Allerdyce was using different methods to monitor players fitness energy levels etc. Can it be tested in this modern age and if the answer is yes do you think it would be beneficial at the club.

Hope you don't mind me asking. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

i think you only have to look at someone like chopra to know he`s not dedicated! ... i have a photo of my son with chops from 2007 and he looks tuned and athletic! ... today he`s carrying a hell of a lot of weight! ... its a shame cause he could have been a fantastic player! ..... you can also tell that players like hudson and mcnaughton look after themselves by just looking at them! ..... to me its quite simple, if your not commited to the club 100%, then find another one! ... i honestly think chops will be out on his arse this year and that`ll be the end of him! .... look at that emmes the other day, if chops is worth 4 million then emmes must be worth 10!

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Wed May 04, 2011 6:51 pm

Wish the players had your dedication lee,always seen you running around tredegar,hope those players never play for club again,they got plenty of time to drink after playoffs.