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Interesting slant on the QPR fiasco

Tue May 03, 2011 5:47 pm

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/201 ... ons147258/?

Interesting article :ayatollah:

Re: Interesting slant on the QPR fiasco

Tue May 03, 2011 5:54 pm

So where do we stand with this rule then:

"Rule C.1 (b) (iii), states that no Club may enter into an agreement with a Third Party whereby the Club makes or receives a payment to or from that Third Party as a result of, or in connection with, the registration of a Player."

Aren't half our players mortaged out to all and sundry or is that different?

Re: Interesting slant on the QPR fiasco

Tue May 03, 2011 5:57 pm

Berwyn wrote:So where do we stand with this rule then:

"Rule C.1 (b) (iii), states that no Club may enter into an agreement with a Third Party whereby the Club makes or receives a payment to or from that Third Party as a result of, or in connection with, the registration of a Player."

Aren't half our players mortaged out to all and sundry or is that different?


If you're referring to the Ray Ranson deal, PMG debts, none of those relate to the player registration, rather profits from any sales.

Neither of those have control over the player...

Re: Interesting slant on the QPR fiasco

Tue May 03, 2011 6:03 pm

So what you are saying confirms this bit of the rule then?:

"which includes owning any interest in any transfer fee or future sale value of a Player."

Re: Interesting slant on the QPR fiasco

Tue May 03, 2011 6:04 pm

ihatealiens wrote:http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2011/05/03/the-sports-lawyer-if-found-guilty-qpr-could-find-themselves-in-breach-of-a-number-of-regulations147258/?

Interesting article :ayatollah:


It is an interesting article which if true could bring out further and even more interesting questions like, if QPR have a points deduction which would have stopped them being promoted not enforced until next season then does the 3rd place club who would have been promoted in their place have a case to sue QPR for the loss of £90m.

Well following the case of Sheffield Utd v West Ham Utd which was eventually settled at a £20m figure paid over 5 years the answer is yes. This was a landmark case in sporting terms because it allowed a 3rd Party (No pun intended) the opportunity on the basis of a decision that didn't directly affect them.

This landmark court case was won by Mr Ian Mill QC representing Sheffield Utd and who today is representing QPR in the IRC hearing.

I wonder if Mr Mill QC would represent either Cardiff or Swansea in a claim for compensation should this senario arise. ;)

Re: Interesting slant on the QPR fiasco

Tue May 03, 2011 6:08 pm

castleblue wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2011/05/03/the-sports-lawyer-if-found-guilty-qpr-could-find-themselves-in-breach-of-a-number-of-regulations147258/?

Interesting article :ayatollah:


It is an interesting article which if true could bring out further and even more interesting questions like, if QPR have a points deduction which would have stopped them being promoted not enforced until next season then does the 3rd place club who would have been promoted in their place have a case to sue QPR for the loss of £90m.

Well following the case of Sheffield Utd v West Ham Utd which was eventually settled at a £20m figure paid over 5 years the answer is yes. This was a landmark case in sporting terms because it allowed a 3rd Party (No pun intended) the opportunity on the basis of a decision that didn't directly affect them.

This landmark court case was won by Mr Ian Mill QC representing Sheffield Utd and who today is representing QPR in the IRC hearing.

I wonder if Mr Mill QC would represent either Cardiff or Swansea in a claim for compensation should this senario arise. ;)


Bloody mad I tell you! these legal wrangles...... :lol:

Re: Interesting slant on the QPR fiasco

Tue May 03, 2011 6:11 pm

Berwyn wrote:So what you are saying confirms this bit of the rule then?:

"which includes owning any interest in any transfer fee or future sale value of a Player."


Which includes is the key point. The rule refers to player registrations, that's an additional point.

The Ranson, PMG deals refer solely to future profits, hence don't infringe the rule.

The rule is intended to prevent third party ownership of players, sold for third party profit. Ranson, PMG cannot force us to sell any of the players, ergo, rule not being broken.

Re: Interesting slant on the QPR fiasco

Tue May 03, 2011 6:13 pm

Merlin wrote:
castleblue wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2011/05/03/the-sports-lawyer-if-found-guilty-qpr-could-find-themselves-in-breach-of-a-number-of-regulations147258/?

Interesting article :ayatollah:


It is an interesting article which if true could bring out further and even more interesting questions like, if QPR have a points deduction which would have stopped them being promoted not enforced until next season then does the 3rd place club who would have been promoted in their place have a case to sue QPR for the loss of £90m.

Well following the case of Sheffield Utd v West Ham Utd which was eventually settled at a £20m figure paid over 5 years the answer is yes. This was a landmark case in sporting terms because it allowed a 3rd Party (No pun intended) the opportunity on the basis of a decision that didn't directly affect them.

This landmark court case was won by Mr Ian Mill QC representing Sheffield Utd and who today is representing QPR in the IRC hearing.

I wonder if Mr Mill QC would represent either Cardiff or Swansea in a claim for compensation should this senario arise. ;)


Bloody mad I tell you! these legal wrangles...... :lol:



Merlin if I could live my life again believe me I would make bloody sure to qualify as a lawyer, a bigger bunch of blood suckers you would struggle to find and I ask you have you ever known a poor one. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Interesting slant on the QPR fiasco

Tue May 03, 2011 7:46 pm

so if points defered until next season it means you can cheat to get promoted and fu..those you cheated against