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MEN OF HARLECH

Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:36 pm

Just a thought on that.Wrexham getting all "it's our north walesey song"! if you watch the film zulu you will all know that the song was sung by the south wales borderers.Now me personally have great respect for those men and if its good enough for them its good enough for us,so f**k you gogs and stop bloody moaning about it. :ayatollah:

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:19 am

my favourite part of a home game when that is played,absolutely love it

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:29 am

troobloo wrote:Just a thought on that.Wrexham getting all "it's our north walesey song"! if you watch the film zulu you will all know that the song was sung by the south wales borderers.Now me personally have great respect for those men and if its good enough for them its good enough for us,so f**k you gogs and stop bloody moaning about it. :ayatollah:


Wrexham would probably answer by saying there is no historical connection between Rorke's Drift and the song MOH, it was simply a scene contrived for the film Zulu.

Further Harlech Castle is in North Wales and apparently the song originated from a medieval siege there in the 1400’s.

That said we thought of it first and it is associated more with Cardiff City than any other Welsh club.

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:07 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
troobloo wrote:Just a thought on that.Wrexham getting all "it's our north walesey song"! if you watch the film zulu you will all know that the song was sung by the south wales borderers.Now me personally have great respect for those men and if its good enough for them its good enough for us,so f**k you gogs and stop bloody moaning about it. :ayatollah:


Wrexham would probably answer by saying there is no historical connection between Rorke's Drift and the song MOH, it was simply a scene contrived for the film Zulu.

Further Harlech Castle is in North Wales and apparently the song originated from a medieval siege there in the 1400’s.

That said we thought of it first and it is associated more with Cardiff City than any other Welsh club.

that'll do me mate :ayatollah:

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:09 pm

The South Wales Bordrers are based in Brecon, & have been for 120 years, correct me if i'm wrong.

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:12 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Wrexham would probably answer by saying there is no historical connection between Rorke's Drift and the song MOH, it was simply a scene contrived for the film Zulu.



For this reason, I never understood why Men of Harlech was a Cardiff song.

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:42 pm

ONe thing that really piss me off is a welsh guy calling another welsh guy name like gogs . For christ sake dont you think the fking english do all the name calling without our own kind doing the same ? We are all Welsh.

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:46 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:The South Wales Bordrers are based in Brecon, & have been for 120 years, correct me if i'm wrong.


I was reliably informed the last time this subject came up that SWB didn't move to Brecon until 2 years after the Battle of Rorke’s Drift and the Regiment was full of Brummie's as well as Welshmen.

But even if they had been based in Brecon, they never sung MOH towards 4,000 Looney Zulu warriors, which is a shame.

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:05 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:The South Wales Bordrers are based in Brecon, & have been for 120 years, correct me if i'm wrong.


I was reliably informed the last time this subject came up that SWB didn't move to Brecon until 2 years after the Battle of Rorke’s Drift and the Regiment was full of Brummie's as well as Welshmen.

But even if they had been based in Brecon, they never sung MOH towards 4,000 Looney Zulu warriors, which is a shame.


Pitty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q8EM0G8tjg

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:08 pm

Not to mention that Stoke City want Tom Jones to sing Delilah at Wembley's FA cup final!

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:32 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:Not to mention that Stoke City want Tom Jones to sing Delilah at Wembley's FA cup final!


I hope he does a better job than his attempt at the national anthem at that Calzaghe fight a few years back! :lol:

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:35 pm

And anyway, maybe Cardiff City just love the film (scene included) and are proud of the South Wales Bordrers? More than an acceptable enough reason to sing it.. we are all Welsh after all.. :ayatollah:

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:42 am

i cant stand the song! and when we hum it cause we dont know the words it sounds pathetic! .... let wrexham keep it!

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:40 am

I really do know why they go on and on and on about this song, I have seen some really good song put up on here , but there too fking lazy to learn them and if your reading this and you know your one of them , well yes I mean you ! Told you I only ways speak and say what Im thinking and I this there a lazy bunch of U S twats . to say you love your team and not be bothered to learn a song that would take about 30mins tops. ok I know some are as thick as fk so for them 1 day

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:03 am

welshcitydragon wrote:I really do know why they go on and on and on about this song, I have seen some really good song put up on here , but there too fking lazy to learn them and if your reading this and you know your one of them , well yes I mean you ! Told you I only ways speak and say what Im thinking and I this there a lazy bunch of U S twats . to say you love your team and not be bothered to learn a song that would take about 30mins tops. ok I know some are as thick as fk so for them 1 day


Actually I think you will be surprised at how many fans do know the words of MOH (may be a pole would confirm this?)

You can definately hear the sound of fans singing above the version Ali plays pre-match, which wasn't the case not so long ago. The problem might actually be how to start off a singing version of MOH during match time, simply because it hasn't been done before and the humming version is well established.

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:00 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:I really do know why they go on and on and on about this song, I have seen some really good song put up on here , but there too fking lazy to learn them and if your reading this and you know your one of them , well yes I mean you ! Told you I only ways speak and say what Im thinking and I this there a lazy bunch of U S twats . to say you love your team and not be bothered to learn a song that would take about 30mins tops. ok I know some are as thick as fk so for them 1 day


Actually I think you will be surprised at how many fans do know the words of MOH (may be a pole would confirm this?)

You can definately hear the sound of fans singing above the version Ali plays pre-match, which wasn't the case not so long ago. The problem might actually be how to start off a singing version of MOH during match time, simply because it hasn't been done before and the humming version is well established.




What do you mean how to start it ? , if you say they know the words then they would know how to start it. You start it by , MEN OF HARLECH , if they hmmmmmm then they can say the words ! its not Rocket is it ?

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:22 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:I really do know why they go on and on and on about this song, I have seen some really good song put up on here , but there too fking lazy to learn them and if your reading this and you know your one of them , well yes I mean you ! Told you I only ways speak and say what Im thinking and I this there a lazy bunch of U S twats . to say you love your team and not be bothered to learn a song that would take about 30mins tops. ok I know some are as thick as fk so for them 1 day


Actually I think you will be surprised at how many fans do know the words of MOH (may be a pole would confirm this?)

You can definately hear the sound of fans singing above the version Ali plays pre-match, which wasn't the case not so long ago. The problem might actually be how to start off a singing version of MOH during match time, simply because it hasn't been done before and the humming version is well established.




What do you mean how to start it ? , if you say they know the words then they would know how to start it. You start it by , MEN OF HARLECH , if they hmmmmmm then they can say the words ! its not Rocket is it ?


Point missed best discribes that reply.

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:25 pm

pointless song, from a pointless film from a pointless war!

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:28 pm

AHERNE wrote:pointless song, from a pointless film from a pointless war!




That song goes back to the 1400s it was with other words but its all down to owin Glyndwr

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:35 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:
AHERNE wrote:pointless song, from a pointless film from a pointless war!




That song goes back to the 1400s it was with other words but its all down to owin Glyndwr

maybe, but we use it due to that film about british soldiers fighting for nothing again! ... well gold i expect that time! .... this is the song id love to be our anthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjFHqMxL ... re=related

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:35 pm

Here is a link to the history of MOH http://www.welsh-nutter.co.uk/songs/menofharlech.html

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:38 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:Here is a link to the history of MOH http://www.welsh-nutter.co.uk/songs/menofharlech.html

off to work now but i`ll have a look at that tomorrow! :ayatollah:

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:02 pm

Unreal :twisted: :twisted:

Have a listen to this. To me, this sends shivers down my spine and a bucketful of pride. :D :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

http://youtu.be/K8ft371DLlo

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:09 pm

Marc wrote:Unreal :twisted: :twisted:

Have a listen to this. To me, this sends shivers down my spine and a bucketful of pride. :D :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

http://youtu.be/K8ft371DLlo




Yer well it would give you shivers it would to any patriot. but you hav to remember we also have a lot of part times,or plastic Welshmen too.

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:43 am

welshcitydragon wrote:
Marc wrote:Unreal :twisted: :twisted:

Have a listen to this. To me, this sends shivers down my spine and a bucketful of pride. :D :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

http://youtu.be/K8ft371DLlo




Yer well it would give you shivers it would to any patriot. but you hav to remember we also have a lot of part times,or plastic Welshmen too.

:lol: im a plastic welshman now because i think men of harlech is shit! :lol: ive heard it all now .... well i dont like tom jones or shakin stevens music either so i must be hung for treason :lol: .... only an handfull of welsh men were at that battle anyway! .... film shit, song shit! ;)

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:14 pm

Im not a fan of Tom Jones , But i love my country next to my children who are learning Welsh and the film was ok , but the roots go back well before that, but as a part time Welshman guess you wouldnt know that anyway. and I guess you would know all about shit then.

Re: MEN OF HARLECH

Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:24 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:Im not a fan of Tom Jones , But i love my country next to my children who are learning Welsh and the film was ok , but the roots go back well before that, but as a part time Welshman guess you wouldnt know that anyway. and I guess you would know all about shit then.

ive done battle for wales http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/gra ... -22178047/ and i didnt need a gun either! :ayatollah: