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CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:58 pm

I am in 116 and fed up of our own fans around me.

In a nutshell if the ball is on the right hand side it's Naylor's fault regardless of anything.

I know he's not the best but I am fed up of it, he cannot do anything right by the morons around me.

These "fans" were even booing JET tonight before he went off.

I am getting get more and more wound up by these "fans" than anything else..

I've had enough, call yourself fans?

Embarrassment to the City. prefer you to be one eyed but booing your own, get a life ffs!!!!"

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:42 pm

I heard boos toward Naylor thats not good during the game as he is shit enough without making it worse.

Jet didnt do well tonight either but I didnt hear booes towards him it is crazy I agree if they are doing that this why message boards are good you can release your anger on here as I am angry that Jones turned ou Mathews but Naylor had made more mistakes than anyone and he is still in the team.

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:46 pm

yea i did hear them booing naylor when he got the ball aswell. make it worse than it already was.

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:46 pm

bloobirds68 wrote:I am in 116 and fed up of our own fans around me.

In a nutshell if the ball is on the right hand side it's Naylor's fault regardless of anything.

I know he's not the best but I am fed up of it, he cannot do anything right by the morons around me.

These "fans" were even booing JET tonight before he went off.

I am getting get more and more wound up by these "fans" than anything else..

I've had enough, call yourself fans?

Embarrassment to the City. prefer you to be one eyed but booing your own, get a life ffs!!!!"

i agree....
fans booing there own players pisses me off. i admit i shouted some unpleasant things towards naylor, but he cant hear that, he can hear the boos though when he goes near the ball. he is poor and hopefully he doesnt start sunday, but even still booing wont help.
JET was poor, but FFS everyone was saying he was class last week.
MAYBE ITS TOUGH TO PICK THE BALL UP AND RUN PAST PLAYERS ON A COW PATCH. :ayatollah:

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:49 pm

good post DOES ANYONE ELSE think that the negative atmosphere from fans who clearly think we should walk this league is affecting the team morale??

COS I DO AND IT SHOWS ON THE PITCH

football doesn't always go as planned, who'd have thought we'd make the FA cup final with the poor and thin squad we had NO-ONE
DJ was in charge then....

Who'd have thought we'd still be in this division 6 years ago with the debt and poor team we had then...NO-ONE
who kept us in league DJ...

who would have thought under these strenuous cicrumstances over last 6 years we'd finish higher every year?? NO-ONE
DJ still in charge....

who'd have thought we'd lose to blackpool in play off final, NO-ONE
DJ once again in charge....

footballs a funny game and the players need the fans to back the manager and the squad and i find it astonishing that the fans don't back either, what happened to the cauldren of ninian park??? where teams feared us and opponents struggle to keep the ball??? why has the atmosphere gone??

i'll tell you why cos the fans feel we have the right to get auto promotion, you gotta earn that right with all of us sticking together and that is NOT evident at CCS, not now not ever!!!
its a real shame!!! players thrive on confidence something which our fans are sucking out of the players from the moans and constant groans of disaproval after every bad touch, every poor shot, every missed tackle!!

our support used to be famous its not anymore!!
and granted we have ONE of the best squads in the league now but so do QPR, FOREST, NORWICH and hate to say it THE JACKS.....

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:55 pm

Well No Fans by Me booed :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:29 am

Guys all I would like is us ALL to stick together.

Lets be one eyed, biased, anything you want to call it, but SUPPORT our team.

I came out of the game last night thinking i'd love to chin a few of our own fans they pissed me off that much.

Of course the players can hear us, give them a break.

Andy Griffin got roasted by Bellamy last night second half, were they on his back?

Check out the meaning of fan,supporter in the dictionary. Is it you?

Moan on here but rock the stadium!!!!!!

Rant over. :ayatollah:

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:39 am

Forever Blue wrote:Well No Fans by Me booed :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


nobody by me in 115 booed either , altho plenty were shouting criticism at Naylor and quite rightly so coz he is defo the week link in a poor back 4 ! JET wasnt to blame coz DJ decided to break up a winning team in order to play Whittingham and Ramsay .............. IMO 1 of those 2 should have started on the bench with Chops upfront . Fans boo out of frustration due to the high expectation levels now at the CCS and quite rightly so ...... Jones has the players he wants and us fans expect more from them . Jones needs to find JET's true position and not swap him around like he did with Etuhu last season PLUS he needs to remeber that Ramsey leaves in 20 odd days too ! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:47 am

I just wonder if JET has a sulk on considering Wenger's comments about recalling him? Wouldn't be the first player to turn shit because his mind was else where.

I don't like hearing fans boo our own players, but at the end of the day if you pay our money you are entitled to your opinion.

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:53 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:I just wonder if JET has a sulk on considering Wenger's comments about recalling him? Wouldn't be the first player to turn shit because his mind was else where.

I don't like hearing fans boo our own players, but at the end of the day if you pay our money you are entitled to your opinion.


he's prob fed up playing 2 diff positions in 2 games ............ no way did Chops deserve to get dropped for last night :evil:

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:58 am

I know expectations are high but go easy!!!!

JET is a real talent, a young lad and we are already looking at negatives.

It's his second game, playing a new role, give him a break.

He was worshipped at Donny let's get behind him.

Let's get back to how we were as supporters.

Cheer or own, slate the opposition and make them feel intimidated.

I think we all try to be pundits rather than one eyed blue noses.

Intimidate the oppo not our boys :ayatollah: !!!!!

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:03 am

Vintage 63 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Well No Fans by Me booed :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


nobody by me in 115 booed either , altho plenty were shouting criticism at Naylor and quite rightly so coz he is defo the week link in a poor back 4 ! JET wasnt to blame coz DJ decided to break up a winning team in order to play Whittingham and Ramsay .............. IMO 1 of those 2 should have started on the bench with Chops upfront . Fans boo out of frustration due to the high expectation levels now at the CCS and quite rightly so ...... Jones has the players he wants and us fans expect more from them . Jones needs to find JET's true position and not swap him around like he did with Etuhu last season PLUS he needs to remeber that Ramsey leaves in 20 odd days too ! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

No one booed near me but they did show their frustration at Naylor who was having a bad day. McNaughton did a lot of covering for him and was the most effective of the back four. The ease with which Reading got behind us was frightening. In the first half tactics were not working and DJ should have done something about it.
The fans did their bit at the beginning and the noise was fantastic, but we were soon stunned into silience by the very lively Reading side.
For me there were some key players not giving 100%, and I include JB in that. DJ tactics were questionable in the first half.
Maybe the teams around us ikn the league want it more than us??

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:38 am

As much as I disagree with the booing, I do feel that the supporters have a right to express their disatifaction with consitant below par performances as we all pay serious hard earned cash to watch at times muck from a very talented squad.

3 words- Dave Jones Clueless

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:40 am

wdb2721 wrote:As much as I disagree with the booing, I do feel that the supporters have a right to express their disatifaction with consitant below par performances as we all pay serious hard earned cash to watch at times muck from a very talented squad.

3 words- Dave Jones Clueless


well said mate ................ its part and parcel of football , especially at CCFC :ayatollah:

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:46 am

Yeah, I would never boo our own players but given the performance and work ethic of a few individuals last night those people who struggle to afford a match ticket can understandably be pushed to booing when these players on ridiculous sums of money put in such a shift. I think some were doing it just to try and convey the message to Jones about how bad one or two players were playing because he clearly couldn't see it.

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:01 am

Naylor had a very poor game - again, but to boo someone in a city shirt is just out of order. He wasn't the only one - Whittingham had an absolute shocker too and could do with being benched for a game or too, as did Quinn.

We must play 4-4-2 against the jacks, but can DJ risk brining in Keinan for a derby game - personally I think he has too and would line up like this:

Heaton
Quinn/Blake [prefer Matthews but we know that won't happen]. Hudson. Keinan [or Gyepes]. Super Kev [outstanding last night]
Burke. Ramsey. Oli. Bellamy.
Chopra. Bothroyd

I suspect however, it will look nothing like that...

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:57 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:COS I DO AND IT SHOWS ON THE PITCH


Gotcha. Fans fault, not players nor DJ.

football doesn't always go as planned, who'd have thought we'd make the FA cup final with the poor and thin squad we had NO-ONE
DJ was in charge then....


Aided by a friendly cup draw - let's be blunt, we didn't have the toughest route to the final.

And what happened in that final? Rambo on bench, immobile Hasslebaink up front with Parry.

Who was in charge then?

Who'd have thought we'd still be in this division 6 years ago with the debt and poor team we had then...NO-ONE
who kept us in league DJ...


We weren't in danger of relegating when DJ took over.

who would have thought under these strenuous cicrumstances over last 6 years we'd finish higher every year?? NO-ONE
DJ still in charge....


Every season there has been a slump; we've got close but never been able to seal the deal.

Who has been in charge?

who'd have thought we'd lose to blackpool in play off final, NO-ONE
DJ once again in charge....


You mean you think we should have walked it? doesn't that make you one of the fans you complain about?

Backup for Bothroyd at the time was Magennis. Game he broke his leg - against Blackpool - he had a stormer causing no end of problems.

Magennis was released just before the playoff final.

We then ended up with Etuhu up front.

Who was in charge then?

footballs a funny game and the players need the fans to back the manager and the squad and i find it astonishing that the fans don't back either, what happened to the cauldren of ninian park??? where teams feared us and opponents struggle to keep the ball??? why has the atmosphere gone??p


Teams feared us? Struggled to keep the ball? Me thinks you overrate Ninian. At times it was like a library...

i'll tell you why cos the fans feel we have the right to get auto promotion, you gotta earn that right with all of us sticking together and that is NOT evident at CCS, not now not ever!!!


Garbage. Who believes we've a divine right to go up?

Our squad is on paper one of the best in the div. It's underperforming.

Who is in charge?

its a real shame!!! players thrive on confidence something which our fans are sucking out of the players from the moans and constant groans of disaproval after every bad touch, every poor shot, every missed tackle!!


yeah, that Bothroyd seems totally out of form and confidence sdue to the fans. Same Chopra. Same Bellamy...

Our support used to be famous its not anymore!!


fact?

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:24 am

This is my opinion only.

I do not buy into this I pay my money so I can do and say what I want theory. Do other fans do this? eg Liverpool?

I agree that Jones is not the ideal manager and is tactically nieve. Can I change this? No

I agree that certain players are not good enough at this standard. Can i change this? No

I DO love Cardiff City. We all do.

I want to support the club in any way I can by doing things that CAN make a difference.

Supporting ALL the players. Can I do this? Yes

Joining in with songs. Can I do this? Yes

NOT booing our own players. Can I do this? Yes

Giving the opposition shit. Can I do this? Yes.

All of this times 23 to 25,000 every home game. Banging.

That's what I can do. I can't pick the team and make changes. End of! IMO. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:52 pm

bloobirds68 wrote:This is my opinion only.

I do not buy into this I pay my money so I can do and say what I want theory. Do other fans do this? eg Liverpool?

I agree that Jones is not the ideal manager and is tactically nieve. Can I change this? No

I agree that certain players are not good enough at this standard. Can i change this? No

I DO love Cardiff City. We all do.

I want to support the club in any way I can by doing things that CAN make a difference.

Supporting ALL the players. Can I do this? Yes

Joining in with songs. Can I do this? Yes

NOT booing our own players. Can I do this? Yes

Giving the opposition shit. Can I do this? Yes.

All of this times 23 to 25,000 every home game. Banging.

That's what I can do. I can't pick the team and make changes. End of! IMO. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


100% agree with everything you said. Fair enough, fans who pay their money should be able to have their say, on forums like this and amongst themselves, but what I do not understand in the slightest is when "fans" get on their own players back and boo them during matches... i'm not saying they don't deserve it for their performances but do people not realise that it isn't helping the player or the team one bit. Maybe we should boo the people booing for being awful fans huh? Cos they're doing affecting the team just as much as players like Naylor. It's ridiculous, during the game, why can't people just get behind the team and have your say afterwards!

I personally think Naylor should be dropped yeah, but if he's not, just get behind him during the game and stop making him more nervous and the situation worse.

And just for the record, out of all of our defenders that have actually played a decent amount of games this season (so not including quinn, riggott, matthews, etc) Naylor comes only 2nd to Gyepes in terms of the amount of minutes per goal conceded when that player is on the pitch. We concede every 80.06 mins when Naylor plays, every 92.36 mins when Gyepes plays. To put this in perspective, we concede every 73.25 mins when Super Kev plays, and every 74.93 mins as a team.

Re: CHANGE THE RECORD GUYS FFS

Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:01 pm

Scott,

Thanks for your support.

That's two of us who are not going to boo our own players. 24998 to go........ lol!!!!!

Keep the Faith.