If we fail to go up now, there's only one man to blame!

Dave Jones, although bringing in good players to improve our midfield and attack, has only brought in one defender, who is unproven and a gamble. DJ's stubborness in sticking with our failing defense may cost us getting promoted. I thought this would happen if we stuck with DJ, and this is why I wanted us to change the manager.

Everyone could see we needed another centre back and left back, but DJ in my opinion has blown it with his stubborness. When you see Forest signing Konchesky on loan, the exact left back we could have done with, it personally makes me very disappointed. DJ could well have thrown away promotion this season with his failure to strengthen our key weak areas.

get a grip, we cant have it all, hes signed some good players and dekel this new israel international may well be a cracking partnership with hudson

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Dave Jones, although bringing in good players to improve our midfield and attack, has only brought in one defender, who is unproven and a gamble. DJ's stubborness in sticking with our failing defense may cost us getting promoted. I thought this would happen if we stuck with DJ, and this is why I wanted us to change the manager.

Everyone could see we needed another centre back and left back, but DJ in my opinion has blown it with his stubborness. When you see Forest signing Konchesky on loan, the exact left back we could have done with, it personally makes me very disappointed. DJ could well have thrown away promotion this season with his failure to strengthen our key weak areas.

Dave Jones, Honestly believes in his goalies and Defenders,
Personally I have not got a prob with the goalies, between the 2 of them we have a fair balance, not the best in this division, but well above average for this Division, just my opinion.

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here we go.... just think we missed out by a whisker last year with a worse defence and without adding fresh bodies.... this year we have added and we had a better team than last year be poitive because we only need to go on a decnt run and we are laughing straight to the prem

Some fans just never happy, DJ and the boys need nothin but support from us now not whingein

Dave Jones, although bringing in good players to improve our midfield and attack, has only brought in one defender, who is unproven and a gamble. DJ's stubborness in sticking with our failing defense may cost us getting promoted. I thought this would happen if we stuck with DJ, and this is why I wanted us to change the manager.

Everyone could see we needed another centre back and left back, but DJ in my opinion has blown it with his stubborness. When you see Forest signing Konchesky on loan, the exact left back we could have done with, it personally makes me very disappointed. DJ could well have thrown away promotion this season with his failure to strengthen our key weak areas.

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Dave Jones, although bringing in good players to improve our midfield and attack, has only brought in one defender, who is unproven and a gamble. DJ's stubborness in sticking with our failing defense may cost us getting promoted. I thought this would happen if we stuck with DJ, and this is why I wanted us to change the manager.

Everyone could see we needed another centre back and left back, but DJ in my opinion has blown it with his stubborness. When you see Forest signing Konchesky on loan, the exact left back we could have done with, it personally makes me very disappointed. DJ could well have thrown away promotion this season with his failure to strengthen our key weak areas.

Thanks dave for bringing in Jay , Chopra , JET , Whitts , Burke, Ramsey , BELLAMY , apologies for some dicks on this MB

I honestly beleive we needed one centre half. Maybe Keinan will be the answer, Holloway speaks highly of him even though he didn;t play him....but to be fair Blackpool have done ok so had no reason to change things. I don't think Naylor is as bad as folk make out. Yes, he's had bad games....but who hasn't?

Time to back the manager and palyers and see where it takes us

get a grip, we cant have it all, hes signed some good players and dekel this new israel international may well be a cracking partnership with hudson

Yes we can have it all, Keogh and Drinkwater have been shipped out and who have we replaced them with? Konchesky could have replaced one of the loans, and we could have loaned in a centre back until the end of the season. I've been saying for weeks we should have got Curtis Davies in on loan, if Leicester could get him, we definitely could have as well. What a huge opportunity missed, instead of having a squad capable of comfortably winning this division, we still have a weak defense that will let us down and cost us points!

He has tried to sign loovens (twice), Gabbidon and obrien so how can anyone think he is happy with what he got?

CB is the a hard position, signing the wrong player for the sake of it would have been a disaster.

And how is the CB we signed unproven? Hasn't he played CL?

Dave Jones, although bringing in good players to improve our midfield and attack, has only brought in one defender, who is unproven and a gamble. DJ's stubborness in sticking with our failing defense may cost us getting promoted. I thought this would happen if we stuck with DJ, and this is why I wanted us to change the manager.

Everyone could see we needed another centre back and left back, but DJ in my opinion has blown it with his stubborness. When you see Forest signing Konchesky on loan, the exact left back we could have done with, it personally makes me very disappointed. DJ could well have thrown away promotion this season with his failure to strengthen our key weak areas.

Dave Jones, Honestly believes in his goalies and Defenders,
Personally I have not got a prob with the goalies, between the 2 of them we have a fair balance, not the best in this division, but well above average for this Division, just my opinion.

Annis, I totally agree that our goalkeepers are more than good enough for this level. The problem is no matter how good a keeper we have, when there's a shit defense in front of him we will concede goals. We cannot get promoted when we're giving away sloppy goals every game.

typical post. Besides..the loan window is still open.. we can replace keogh and still get younger players.

get a grip, we cant have it all, hes signed some good players and dekel this new israel international may well be a cracking partnership with hudson

Yes we can have it all, Keogh and Drinkwater have been shipped out and who have we replaced them with? Konchesky could have replaced one of the loans, and we could have loaned in a centre back until the end of the season. I've been saying for weeks we should have got Curtis Davies in on loan, if Leicester could get him, we definitely could have as well. What a huge opportunity missed, instead of having a squad capable of comfortably winning this division, we still have a weak defense that will let us down and cost us points!

have you seen konchesky play he was shite for west ham.......fulham.......and i dont know what the f**k he was doing at liverpool!!curtis davies was going to leicester then opted for brum who play in premiership what makes you think hed come here.be happy with what we got cos lets be fair were blessed with really gifted players all in the same team wich we aint to used to!!you have a duty aswell to support the team and manager as long as hes at the helm!!!!CCFC TILL I DIE!!

is it another month? for loan signee's though....,
I thought maybe with keogh going back and drinkwater it was going to happen

bellers can play up front now if we get an striker crisis and either whitts, jet, burke on wing

We have Jay, Parkin, chops, jet, Bellamy who can all play upfront and a load of midfield options.

typical post. Besides..the loan window is still open.. we can replace keogh and still get younger players.

Typical post? If yourself and everyone else is happy with our defense, you really need to wake up. I suppose you was happy with us throwing away a 4 goal lead away to Peterborough, getting hammerings at Watford and Bristol City away this season, almost throwing away a 3 goal lead at home to Watford and away to Scunthorpe? We cannot get promoted with a defense that constantly concedes sloppy goals, we cannot continually outscore teams no matter how good we are going forward, DJ's failure at improving our defense will bite us on the arse!

How can you say we can't get promoted giving away sloppy goals when we have been doing so all season and remained second for most of that??

get a grip, we cant have it all, hes signed some good players and dekel this new israel international may well be a cracking partnership with hudson

Yes we can have it all, Keogh and Drinkwater have been shipped out and who have we replaced them with? Konchesky could have replaced one of the loans, and we could have loaned in a centre back until the end of the season. I've been saying for weeks we should have got Curtis Davies in on loan, if Leicester could get him, we definitely could have as well. What a huge opportunity missed, instead of having a squad capable of comfortably winning this division, we still have a weak defense that will let us down and cost us points!

have you seen konchesky play he was shite for west ham.......fulham.......and i dont know what the f**k he was doing at liverpool!!curtis davies was going to leicester then opted for brum who play in premiership what makes you think hed come here.be happy with what we got cos lets be fair were blessed with really gifted players all in the same team wich we aint to used to!!you have a duty aswell to support the team and manager as long as hes at the helm!!!!CCFC TILL I DIE!!

This is the same Konchesky that was a regular for Fulham in a mid table Premiership team and getting to the Uefa cup final, knocking out Juventus, Hamberg etc along the way. He's not a world class left back, but would have been more than good enough for this level. Woodgate wanted to join us, so I think Curtis Davis would have joined us on loan. I bet you we won't keep a clean sheet tomorrow night. If we can't keep a clean sheet, the usual thing to do would be to strengthen the defense!

I honestly beleive we needed one centre half. Maybe Keinan will be the answer, Holloway speaks highly of him even though he didn;t play him....but to be fair Blackpool have done ok so had no reason to change things. I don't think Naylor is as bad as folk make out. Yes, he's had bad games....but who hasn't?

Time to back the manager and palyers and see where it takes us

I dont think Naylor is as bad as folk make out !! You need to apologize to my MRS Chief as when i read that i spat my beer all over her

jeus guys we tried for numerous central defenders<
woodgate, gabbidon just to mention a few but none really available who in fairness are either better than hudson, gyepes or are available for a low price as the board haven't really trumped up the cash to buy players this window
we got one CB lets just see how it goes with a revitalised paul quinn at right and possibly if DJ feels switching super kev to left back we hopefully wont need naylor however he'll probably start

How can you say we can't get promoted giving away sloppy goals when we have been doing so all season and remained second for most of that??

We are currently third and Forest are a point behind with a game in hand. We have been battling for second position most of the season. The reason we are stuck battling for second, and not walking this division by 10 points is because our defense lets us down. Would you be happy if we are battling for second place on the last game of the season with the possibility of missing out and ending in the playoffs? That's what I bet will happen unless we start being more ruthless at closing games out, but that will never happen as we have failed to strengthen our weak area of the team. It's a shame.

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This is the same Konchesky that was a regular for Fulham in a mid table Premiership team and getting to the Uefa cup final, knocking out Juventus, Hamberg etc along the way. He's not a world class left back, but would have been more than good enough for this level. Woodgate wanted to join us, so I think Curtis Davis would have joined us on loan. I bet you we won't keep a clean sheet tomorrow night. If we can't keep a clean sheet, the usual thing to do would be to strengthen the defense![/quote]


because woodgate wanted to join and who said he did? your assuming curtis davies would join us i thik davies has his own mind and i was sure davies would sign for leicester but he didnt!!as for konchesky are you suggesting he won them games on his own.fulham fans were glad to get rid so where liverpool and probably west ham hes shite....and what we need is ryan bertrand i f anyone to slot in at left back!!

This is the same Konchesky that was a regular for Fulham in a mid table Premiership team and getting to the Uefa cup final, knocking out Juventus, Hamberg etc along the way. He's not a world class left back, but would have been more than good enough for this level. Woodgate wanted to join us, so I think Curtis Davis would have joined us on loan. I bet you we won't keep a clean sheet tomorrow night. If we can't keep a clean sheet, the usual thing to do would be to strengthen the defense![/quote]


because woodgate wanted to join and who said he did? your assuming curtis davies would join us i thik davies has his own mind and i was sure davies would sign for leicester but he didnt!!as for konchesky are you suggesting he won them games on his own.fulham fans were glad to get rid so where liverpool and probably west ham hes shite....and what we need is ryan bertrand i f anyone to slot in at left back!![/quote]

I agree with Bertrand, him or Konchesky would have been better than Naylor. Where have I said Konchesky won those games on his own exactly? I said he was part of the team and it's guaranteed Konchesky defended against right wingers a lot better than at our level when at Fulham. Woodgate was literally a done deal and then the malaysians blocked it after checking his medical records. Carl said that recently. To be fair, DJ has been unlucky with Riggott, but Woodgate would have been the same with his injury record. Curtis Davis would have been perfect for us, commanding and quick, but there's plenty of decent centre backs out there we could have got this month.

defenders don;t forget gents are only as good as your midfield are, what i mean by this is if you have two central players that are great at attacking but poor at defending then you get ploughed through by good footballing teams like we did on loads of occasions last year when mcphail, and rae partnered in central mid, the start of this year we had it spot on, we played 4 at back 5 across midfield and bothroyd up front this was balnced and worked well once switching back to 4-4-2 because of players like chopra not getting of f the bench we started to slump, when olly was just in front of defence with burke and bellers on wings and whitts in centre with h2o just behind bothroyd we were quick to counter but with olly holding we weren't as exposed hence the defence conceded less goals and looked more solid, i'm not saying the defence aren't always to blame cos sometimes they are but midfield play a huge part of the defending also, its the most important position on the pitch in terms of how pivotal it can be too a game, plus having wingers who don;t track back well is a bad idea, burke and bellamy often fall into this bracket....
a blanced midfield is vital i think with rambo and olly in centre we may achive this but i wish DJ would revert back to 4-5-1 as teams like QPR and forest who have good playmakers will probably run str8 through us and no CB's can take that for 90 mins its a FACT, olly isn;t a creative player hes an ugly player who will break up play and slow the game down agaisnt teams who like to play fluent footy liek the jacks QPR etc, they don;t like this then we hit them on counter attack, this would be a better formation especially away from home as we have some difficult trips coming up and sometimes setting up to counter especially with players that are so good at countering like ours is the better option than 4-4-2

if u think back to the 1st 10 games of season we were much tighter and grinded out more results, might have been some ugly games but its points that get you in the premier league and keep you there.

arsenal, chelsea and the mancs all play similar formations and often kill teams on the break numerous times in a game

Dave Jones, although bringing in good players to improve our midfield and attack, has only brought in one defender, who is unproven and a gamble. DJ's stubborness in sticking with our failing defense may cost us getting promoted. I thought this would happen if we stuck with DJ, and this is why I wanted us to change the manager.

Everyone could see we needed another centre back and left back, but DJ in my opinion has blown it with his stubborness. When you see Forest signing Konchesky on loan, the exact left back we could have done with, it personally makes me very disappointed. DJ could well have thrown away promotion this season with his failure to strengthen our key weak areas.

What if actually realised we needed cover in these position (unlikely, i know) and tried his best but there was noone better available that would come to City and/or he could not get moves for them sanctioned from the board? Crazy i know but not everything stops with DJ.

Dave Jones, although bringing in good players to improve our midfield and attack, has only brought in one defender, who is unproven and a gamble. DJ's stubborness in sticking with our failing defense may cost us getting promoted. I thought this would happen if we stuck with DJ, and this is why I wanted us to change the manager.

Everyone could see we needed another centre back and left back, but DJ in my opinion has blown it with his stubborness. When you see Forest signing Konchesky on loan, the exact left back we could have done with, it personally makes me very disappointed. DJ could well have thrown away promotion this season with his failure to strengthen our key weak areas.

Get a grip of yourself....

For the first tim since he's been here he has had the backing to bring fresh players in and some (including you) can do is moan....

I'm sure DJ has his reasons why only one defender came in and it'll likely be down to simple lack of availability, value and/or quality at quoted prices....

The 'Emergency Loan' window opens next week and by shifting a couple out (strewth, does that sound rude?!?! ) he'll have time to manoeuvre when the time is right....

KEEP THE FAITH!!!!

Dave Jones, although bringing in good players to improve our midfield and attack, has only brought in one defender, who is unproven and a gamble. DJ's stubborness in sticking with our failing defense may cost us getting promoted. I thought this would happen if we stuck with DJ, and this is why I wanted us to change the manager.

Everyone could see we needed another centre back and left back, but DJ in my opinion has blown it with his stubborness. When you see Forest signing Konchesky on loan, the exact left back we could have done with, it personally makes me very disappointed. DJ could well have thrown away promotion this season with his failure to strengthen our key weak areas.

So you don't think the players should take any blame whatsoever if we don't go up?

And if we do go up, is there only one man to get the praise????