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The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:58 pm

Some good work and information posted by Since 62 over on CCMB. Seems that the non settlement of the 10 million doesn't revert to 24. Since 62 explains it better as do other posters. The only way it can revert to 24 million is if sam takes it through a costly court case, which he won't so thats not an option. Seems to me the Malysians know exactly what they are doing and where they stand with Regards to the Debt owed to Sam.

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:01 pm

Pug wrote:Some good work and information posted by Since 62 over on CCMB. Seems that the non settlement of the 10 million doesn't revert to 24. Since 62 explains it better as do other posters. The only way it can revert to 24 million is if sam takes it through a costly court case, which he won't so thats not an option. Seems to me the Malysians know exactly what they are doing and where they stand with Regards to the Debt owed to Sam.


Pug, Sorry Totally Wrong Since 62 is, He totally out of touch and Carls update Tomorrow night Will explain :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:03 pm

no doubt the excuse will be.."oh its a blip in the season", then jonesy will whisper in TG's ear.."thats my excuse" :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:04 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Pug wrote:Some good work and information posted by Since 62 over on CCMB. Seems that the non settlement of the 10 million doesn't revert to 24. Since 62 explains it better as do other posters. The only way it can revert to 24 million is if sam takes it through a costly court case, which he won't so thats not an option. Seems to me the Malysians know exactly what they are doing and where they stand with Regards to the Debt owed to Sam.


Pug, Sorry Totally Wrong Since 62 is, He totally out of touch and Carls update Tomorrow night Will explain :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Whats to say that Carls not wrong? No disrespect to carl because i have alot of respect for him bringing gossip and info to the people who mean the most (the fans) but what if since 62 is right>???

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:07 pm

if Langston think they are due £24 million why havn't they issued a writ?They were quick enough in doing so last time.

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:10 pm

ccfcdor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Pug wrote:Some good work and information posted by Since 62 over on CCMB. Seems that the non settlement of the 10 million doesn't revert to 24. Since 62 explains it better as do other posters. The only way it can revert to 24 million is if sam takes it through a costly court case, which he won't so thats not an option. Seems to me the Malysians know exactly what they are doing and where they stand with Regards to the Debt owed to Sam.


Pug, Sorry Totally Wrong Since 62 is, He totally out of touch and Carls update Tomorrow night Will explain :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Whats to say that Carls not wrong? No disrespect to carl because i have alot of respect for him bringing gossip and info to the people who mean the most (the fans) but what if since 62 is right>???

i just cant see that any court in the land would back sam ,theres been so many agreements it would be hard to prove which one is valid.sams had 1 million this year in monthly payments cofirmed by carl to me on here last week hes having money from the 10 million agreement but hes saying its not valid so why take the cash?

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:11 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Pug wrote:Some good work and information posted by Since 62 over on CCMB. Seems that the non settlement of the 10 million doesn't revert to 24. Since 62 explains it better as do other posters. The only way it can revert to 24 million is if sam takes it through a costly court case, which he won't so thats not an option. Seems to me the Malysians know exactly what they are doing and where they stand with Regards to the Debt owed to Sam.


Pug, Sorry Totally Wrong Since 62 is, He totally out of touch and Carls update Tomorrow night Will explain :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Well I know Keith is an accountant and he's put this together with an accountant specialising in this area. The information they have used is in the Public domain, I can't see how it can be incorrect and the Malysians are not stupid enough to miss anything and explains why they haven't settled with Sam at this point. Sam's only arguement is that the latest agreement was never signed thus not binding. Problem is it;s been audited in the may 2009 accounts. so the accountants are sure it was signed. I'm pretty sure the Malysians are very confident it was signed off and is binding. Again the only way Sam can question this is through the courts, which isn't going to happen.
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Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:12 pm

Aaah dw lads and lasses when i make a construction firm in a few years ill be a multi billionaire and pay the debt meself and ill invest in cardiff and build a football academy in brazil 8-)

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:14 pm

ccfcdor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Pug wrote:Some good work and information posted by Since 62 over on CCMB. Seems that the non settlement of the 10 million doesn't revert to 24. Since 62 explains it better as do other posters. The only way it can revert to 24 million is if sam takes it through a costly court case, which he won't so thats not an option. Seems to me the Malysians know exactly what they are doing and where they stand with Regards to the Debt owed to Sam.


Pug, Sorry Totally Wrong Since 62 is, He totally out of touch and Carls update Tomorrow night Will explain :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Whats to say that Carls not wrong? No disrespect to carl because i have alot of respect for him bringing gossip and info to the people who mean the most (the fans) but what if since 62 is right>???


Because Carl, Gwyn and Myself have Seen ALL THE NEW PAPER WORK Regarding loan notes etc etc :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:16 pm

so what you saying annis? The saga could nearly be behind us? Id take that over new signings to be honest :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:16 pm

It comes as no shock if its true. We knew the Malaysians were never going to let
a 10m debt turn into a 24m debt and leave themselves liable. My PERSONAL opinion
is that whatever VTs agenda is will be backed up by some of the worlds best financial
brains and legal teams. Sam may well be left wringing his hands when his own legal
team tell him he's going to have to bite the bullet.

At the end of the day we have to back VT on this, because its Cardiff Citys debt he
is dealing with.

Cant wait for Carls update now!!

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:17 pm

stickywicket wrote:if Langston think they are due £24 million why havn't they issued a writ?They were quick enough in doing so last time.


Read Carls update Tomorrow Night :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:18 pm

Pug wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Pug wrote:Some good work and information posted by Since 62 over on CCMB. Seems that the non settlement of the 10 million doesn't revert to 24. Since 62 explains it better as do other posters. The only way it can revert to 24 million is if sam takes it through a costly court case, which he won't so thats not an option. Seems to me the Malysians know exactly what they are doing and where they stand with Regards to the Debt owed to Sam.


Pug, Sorry Totally Wrong Since 62 is, He totally out of touch and Carls update Tomorrow night Will explain :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Well I know Keith is an accountant and he's put this together with an accountant specialising in this area. The information they have used is in the Public domain, I can't see how it can be incorrect and the Malysians are not stupid enough to miss anything and explains why they haven't settled with Sam at this point. Sam's only arguement is that the latest agreement was never signed thus not binding. Problem is it;s been audited in the may 2009 accounts. so the accountants are sure it was signed. I'm pretty sure the Malysians are very confident it was signed off and is binding. Again the only way Sam can question this is through the courts, which isn't going to happen.


Pug, Keith Admitted to Carl and Myself he is still going by the old Accounts and Has Seen None of the New paper work.

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:20 pm

The good news surely though is we now know the missed payments could never return to us owing 24million. If the Malysians have done a deal with Sam all well and good.

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:21 pm

is the new paper work about the debt good or bad?

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:23 pm

Carl will put the latest Figures up Now and exactly whats written and signed now by our club and Langston. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:26 pm

Happy Days :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Im now starting to believe are here for the long haul!!!!!!!!I was having visions of them leaving at the end of the season if we didnt get promoted

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:28 pm

Annis as I said Since 62 has used the most up to date audited and published accounts. There is no other information one could use to our next accounts are audited and published there no way anyone could have accsess to theses as by defintion I assume the club hasn't carried out the audit. If they have come to a settlement with Sam, thats great but we know it won't be anywhere near 24 million.

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:29 pm

Pug wrote:Annis as I said Since 62 has used the most up to date audited and published accounts. There is no other information one could use to our next accounts are audited and published there no way anyone could have accsess to theses as by defintion I assume the club hasn't carried out the audit. If they have come to a settlement with Sam, thats great but we know it won't be anywhere near 24 million.


New docs ect were Signed by the Riddler and Langston and Keith has Not seen them, Keith goes by previous accounts :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:29 pm

I thought it was reduced to £15mil?

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:31 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:I thought it was reduced to £15mil?


Carl will explain on a New Thread :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:33 pm

FFS mun annis :lol: well i read it last season well the riddler was in charge that he managedto reduce the debt from £30 to £15mil...mind you that was from the BEEB

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:34 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:I thought it was reduced to £15mil?


Carl will explain on a New Thread :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

is that tonight annis? :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:39 pm

boxerbob wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:I thought it was reduced to £15mil?


Carl will explain on a New Thread :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

is that tonight annis? :ayatollah:


Yes :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:40 pm

i thought you said its tomorrow :?:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:41 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:i thought you said its tomorrow :?:


The update is, but Langston bit is now :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:42 pm

Ahh rightt tidy mun :ayatollah:

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:51 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:i thought you said its tomorrow :?:


The update is, but Langston bit is now :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


How have you got access to these documents then annis? and also Carl? surely such paperwork would remain condifential and kept by the club

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:05 pm

ugh im still none the wiser

Re: The reason why the Board haven't settled with Sam

Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:30 pm

Pug wrote:Some good work and information posted by Since 62 over on CCMB. Seems that the non settlement of the 10 million doesn't revert to 24. Since 62 explains it better as do other posters. The only way it can revert to 24 million is if sam takes it through a costly court case, which he won't so thats not an option. Seems to me the Malysians know exactly what they are doing and where they stand with Regards to the Debt owed to Sam.


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