Surely the players are part to blame aswell?..

Not trying be funny but to me they all lack abit passion only chopra bellars and kev the last few weeks only ones been showing there playing for the shirt also i'm jones fan but he's got to go he's lost alot the fans and the sqaud new gaff in who will let bellamy speak his mind and let him do his own thing come on city keep the faith let's get behide them tuesday

They are all players DJ brought in.

So there's nothing to defend DJ over.

He's either lost the dressing room, players aren't playing for him

or

The players brought in by him are 100% behind him, just not good enough.

So you think the player's can't be blamed at all?

As I've said to my mate....money has ruined football...look at Man city for example...the players they have they should be top of the league 4 points clear but as everyone knows the players are there for the money, Cardiff players aswell are getting decent amount of money...so what is there to play for when they are getting stupid amount of cash for kicking a f*cking ball around?

So you think the player's can't be blamed at all?

Some of the blame, to a degree.

But...

Look at Spurs just before Redknapp took over. Were all those players crap, useless, workshy? The same players played pretty damn well a week later when Redknapp took over.

The manager has a massive effect on players performance, morale wise, tactic wise, formation wise etc. The overwhelming majority of blame goes to the manager - after all, you can blame Naylor for being shit, but it's Jones who continually picks him.

Very true just want us back to winning ways

Id like to give them all a BIG kick up the arse

Id like to give them all a BIG kick up the arse

Thats what Dave Jones should be doing

perhaps jonesy needs more sleep or just before kick off chuck cold water over his face cause when hes in the tenchnical area or what ever its called he just stands there and doesnt shout at the players whilst the away managers allways jumping up and down with anger at their players urging em on.