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ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:44 pm

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:48 pm

welshcitydragon wrote::ayatollah: :ayatollah:


It's Channel 4 . ;)

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:50 pm

Whooooops :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:13 pm

Get Jones and his squad to watch it - True, brave and proud welshmen, they know how to battle. :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:50 pm

MalagaCF wrote:Get Jones and his squad to watch it - True, brave and proud welshmen, they know how to battle. :ayatollah:
good post andrew any fucker who watches this film will want to slaughter the opposition MEN OF HARLECH!!! always fetcheds a tear to my eye's in this film :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:51 pm

Don't forget the there was Englishmen with them aswell!!!!! :old: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:52 pm

sam salim wrote:Don't forget the there was Englishmen with them aswell!!!!! :old: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

a few mr salim and they were useless ;)

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:55 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:
sam salim wrote:Don't forget the there was Englishmen with them aswell!!!!! :old: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

a few mr salim and they were useless ;)


They were the ones in charge stopping the Welsh from doing a runner!!!! ;)

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:56 pm

but the english could not sing :lol: a fat lot of good that is fighting 10000 zulus :D

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:57 pm

Yes well the english had to have the welsh there to show them how to fight

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:02 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:but the english could not sing :lol: a fat lot of good that is fighting 10000 zulus :D


Typical boy'o you are Baz!!!! Adding another 6,000 Zulu's :lol: :lol: :lol:
joking apart you can't take away what them men did! Hero's the lot of them!!! :old: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:13 pm

APPRENTLY there were only a few welsh man, all the rest were english :twisted:

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:18 pm

Yer well 1 welshman is worth 4 english :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:22 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:
sam salim wrote:Don't forget the there was Englishmen with them aswell!!!!! :old: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

a few mr salim and they were useless ;)

:D :D :D :D

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:22 pm

Ben wrote:APPRENTLY there were only a few welsh man, all the rest were english :twisted:



* In 1879 the regiment that fought at Rorke's Drift was the 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot. The 24th Regiment later became the South Wales Borderers in 1881 and in 1969 was amalgamated with The Welch Regiment to form the present Royal Regiment of Wales. However, the regimental depot of the 2nd Warwickshire's was based in Brecon, therefore a Welsh influence was very strong.

Weres it say a few Welsh and the rest English?????????????????????????????????????? ;)

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:28 pm

Its just like Battle of Agincourt they say english bowmen hahaha but most of them were Welsh bowmen that were paid to fight in the english army at that time. Its also well know that the Welsh bowmen were the best.

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:38 pm

Sorry lads i must live on a different planet than some of you, I thought it was the British Army at the time???? Never read anything about English army anywhere against the Zulus???? :old:

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:43 pm

They fight under the Jack flag, But Wales is not on that flag so how can it be classed as british ? Im Welsh 1st and last :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:45 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:They fight under the Jack flag, But Wales is not on that flag so how can it be classed as british ? Im Welsh 1st and last :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Forgot you were there in 1879!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:52 pm

Well there is a things called History and they write books about it, and you can then fined out about these things in Research. Next xmas ask for a book about it, and get someone to read it to you :lol: :lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:59 pm

Battle of Rorke's Drift - Anglo Zulu War of 1879 South Africa
The Battle of Rorke's Drift (22/23 January 1879) was a gallant defense by a small garrison force of 152 British soldiers, part of the Centre Column, against seemingly overwhelming odds of between 3000 and 4000 Zulus. The British were to award 11 Victoria crosses to defenders, the most ever in a single action in the history of the British Army.

Anglo Zulu War of 1879:

In January 1879 the British invaded KwaZulu in South Africa, without the sanction of the Home Government, in a war brought about by the misguided policy of "Confederating" Southern Africa under the direction of the Governor-General Sir Henry Bartle Edward Frere. The fiercely indepedent AmaZulu people refused to lay down their arms and accept British rule over the Sovereign Kingdom.

The British General Officer Commanding, Lord Chelmsford, despite having abundant military intelligence on the Zulu, had a misconceived idea of the fighting prowess of his enemy. The result was that on 22nd January a British force of seventeen hundred strong, was attacked and only some four hundred men, of whom only some eighty Europeans, survived at a place called Isandlwana. (Isandhlwana)

The Battle of Rorke's Drift:

Prince Dabulamanzi kaMpande commanded an impi, the Undi 'corps' of 4,500. His men had played little part in the action at the Battle of Isandlwana, but goaded on by his men, and despite the orders of his brother, King Cetshwayo kaMpande, not to cross the Buffalo River into Natal, he chose to attack the British supply base close to a river crossing known as Rorke's Drift, which the Zulu called KwaJimu.

Looking up towards the hospital building, with some of the original ledge still visable. The post was established in a trading store-cum-mission station that consisted of a dwelling house and a chapel, both sturdily built of stone. The house was doing temporary duty as a field hospital, the chapel was full of stores and there were only 104 men who were fit enough to fight.

The command of the post had passed to Lieutenant Chard of the Royal Engineers, when Major Henry Spalding of the 104th Regiment left on the morning of the 22nd January. Commanding a company-strength was Lieutenant Bromhead of the 24th Regiment.* James Langley Dalton, a volunteer serving as an Acting Assistant Commissary and a former Staff Sergeant, ordered the construction of barricades connecting the two buildings with sacks of corn, and an inner barricade with biscuit boxes.

When the Zulus attacked, wielding their short stabbing assegais, they were unable to reach the men behind the barricades and they were blasted by rifle fire at point blank range. Most of those who did mount the breastwork were repulsed by the bayonets of the defenders. Some of the Zulus were armed with rifles, purchased from unscrupulous traders, but they were not trained marksmen and the British soldiers were able to pick them off at long range.

After a number of unsuccessful attacks the Zulus set fire to the hospital, burst in and began to spear the patients. A private named Alfred Henry Hook, a Gloucestershire man, kept them at bay with his bayonet while his friend John Williams hacked holes in the wall separating one room from another and dragged the patients through one by one, the last man had dislocated his knee. Williams had to break the other to get him out of a window and into the yard where the barricades offered some protection.

Fighting went on all night in the fitful glare from the blazing hospital as the Zulus made charge after charge on the barricades. Both sides fought with desperate courage. A patient from the hospital, a Swiss born adventurer Christian Ferdnand Schiess, stabbed three Zulus in quick succession after he had clambered over the breastwork. In the yard Surgeon James Henry Reynolds tended to the wounded, oblivious to the life and death struggle going on all around him. Those too badly hurt to shoot propped themselves up as best they could and reloaded the guns, and re-supplied ammunition to those who were still on their feet.

When dawn came at last, the Zulus drew off taking their wounded with them and leaving at least 351 dead around the barricades. Later Lord Chelmsford arrived on the scene with a column of British Soldiers.

Lieutenants Chard and Bromhead were both awarded the Victoria Cross, as were the redoubtable privates Alfred Hook, Frederick Hitch, Robert Jones, William Jones, Corporal Allen, James Langley Dalton and Pte. John Williams. Surgeon Reynolds got the Cross for tending the wounded under fire; and the Swiss volunteer Christian Schiess - the first to a soldier serving with South Africa forces.

At Rorke's Drift, eleven Victoria Crosses were awarded. Seven to the 2nd Battalion, 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot, one to the Army Medical Department, one to the Royal Engineers, one to the Commissariat and Transport Department and one to the Natal Native Contingent.

There may possibly have been more VC's awarded but the posthumous VC was only started in 1905, among the first recipients in 1907 were Lts Melvill and Coghill who were killed whilst saving the colours from Isandlwana on the 22nd of January 1879.

Another VC winner on the 22nd of January 1879 was a Private Samuel Wassall from Birmingham. He rescued a comrade who was drowning in the Buffalo River during the retreat from Isandlwana.

Private William Griffiths, who won his VC in 1867 at Little Andaman Island, died at Isandhlwana, won his VC in 1867 at Little Andaman Island and is burried in an unmarked grave on the Isandlwana battlefield.

ive said enough on the subject! :old: Nos Da ;)

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:13 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:
MalagaCF wrote:Get Jones and his squad to watch it - True, brave and proud welshmen, they know how to battle. :ayatollah:
good post andrew any fucker who watches this film will want to slaughter the opposition MEN OF HARLECH!!! always fetcheds a tear to my eye's in this film :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I loves the song I do. :ayatollah: :D :ayatollah:

Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:51 pm

there were more english and irish than welsh at rorkes drift sorry boys but its true

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:57 pm

another pointless war by our war mongering nation!

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:00 pm

AHERNE wrote:another pointless war by our war mongering nation!


it was a long time ago tho mate

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:07 pm

MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
AHERNE wrote:another pointless war by our war mongering nation!


it was a long time ago tho mate

our history past and PRESENT is littered with it maesteg blue!... those poor zulus were just trying to hold on to what was rightly theirs in the first place! .... good film though, i`ll give it that!

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:09 pm

sam salim wrote:
bluebirdbaz wrote:
sam salim wrote:Don't forget the there was Englishmen with them aswell!!!!! :old: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

a few mr salim and they were useless ;)


They were the ones in charge stopping the Welsh from doing a runner!!!! ;)

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Re: ZULU Just started BBC 1 Welshmen strong and true

Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:10 pm

AHERNE wrote:
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
AHERNE wrote:another pointless war by our war mongering nation!


it was a long time ago tho mate

our history past and PRESENT is littered with it maesteg blue!... those poor zulus were just trying to hold on to what was rightly theirs in the first place! .... good film though, i`ll give it that!


to be honest the zulus had taken over that area by force aswell
its human nature and been going on since the stone age

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:10 pm

Guns versus spears....know what side i'd like to have been on :old:

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Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:14 pm

Johnny Rythmn wrote:Guns versus spears....know what side i'd like to have been on :old:

THE SIDE WITH THE BETTER VOICES :lol: :lol: