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Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:44 pm
In my opinion Jones maybe well correct that we need five more players when like today we have to rely on these two on the bench.
Matthews being headshot and Wildig not the quality for top Championship football. I would expect Jones will let Matthews go as his contract is nearly up and Wildig out on loan never to return. In my opinion both over highly rated .
Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:50 pm
With all due respect mate, thats utter bollox are you forgetting their both kids (both 18 years old) with plenty of potential and under the correct guidance will fulfill that potential. Don't forget Jones is the same guy who couldn't recognise the true value and quality of Aaron Ramsey and gave him away for under £5 million

. I don't trust him with the future of our kids, he doesn't exactly fill them with confidence.
Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:54 pm
ihatealiens wrote:With all due respect mate, thats utter bollox are you forgetting their both kids (both 18 years old) with plenty of potential and under the correct guidance will fulfill that potential. Don't forget Jones is the same guy who couldn't recognise the true value and quality of Aaron Ramsey and gave him away for under £5 million

. I don't trust him with the future of our kids, he doesn't exactly fill them with confidence.
agreed there mate
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:05 pm
ihatealiens wrote:With all due respect mate, thats utter bollox are you forgetting their both kids (both 18 years old) with plenty of potential and under the correct guidance will fulfill that potential. Don't forget Jones is the same guy who couldn't recognise the true value and quality of Aaron Ramsey and gave him away for under £5 million

. I don't trust him with the future of our kids, he doesn't exactly fill them with confidence.
I do feel slightly for Matthews as in my opinion he's not a defender. Although he's far too shy and lacks confidence.
Wildig simply has not the quality, as in your opinion I talk bollox , could you tell me the following, how many times have you actually seen him play and could you tell me what he's actually good at?
I accept your opinion on Jones but young players have never been his trait in Management style.
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:07 pm
My Opinion And Mine Only wrote:In my opinion Jones maybe well correct that we need five more players when like today we have to rely on these two on the bench.
Matthews being headshot and Wildig not the quality for top Championship football. I would expect Jones will let Matthews go as his contract is nearly up and Wildig out on loan never to return. In my opinion both over highly rated .
Your right Jones Seems to want to let Matthews and For Nothing, From £5 Million to Nothing and Wilding He wont give him a proper run .
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:12 pm
In my opinion Matthews is worth about current value 250-400k . Wildig simply is not good enough, Ardley has to each year put through a player in pretence the Academy is successful , when in footballing terms they are not producing the quality for Championship/Premiership football in the main. The same goes for Meades.
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:12 pm
ihatealiens wrote:With all due respect mate, thats utter bollox are you forgetting their both kids (both 18 years old) with plenty of potential and under the correct guidance will fulfill that potential. Don't forget Jones is the same guy who couldn't recognise the true value and quality of Aaron Ramsey and gave him away for under £5 million

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I don't trust him with the future of our kids, he doesn't exactly fill them with confidence.
i dont trust him with kids in general
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:13 pm
could wildig do better job than mcphail at the mo tho? i would give matthews a blast down the right wing when burke does not play tho.
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:16 pm
My Opinion And Mine Only wrote:ihatealiens wrote:With all due respect mate, thats utter bollox are you forgetting their both kids (both 18 years old) with plenty of potential and under the correct guidance will fulfill that potential. Don't forget Jones is the same guy who couldn't recognise the true value and quality of Aaron Ramsey and gave him away for under £5 million

. I don't trust him with the future of our kids, he doesn't exactly fill them with confidence.
I do feel slightly for Matthews as in my opinion he's not a defender. Although he's far too shy and lacks confidence.
Wildig simply has not the quality, as in your opinion I talk bollox , could you tell me the following, how many times have you actually seen him play and could you tell me what he's actually good at?
I accept your opinion on Jones but young players have never been his trait in Management style.
I have seen Wildig enough times to recognise that there is talent there. At the moment yes he is a little young and probably weak in the tackle and gets brushed off the ball by older stronger players which will improve as and when he strengthens up. For his age he has good technical ability and in my view sees a good pass and with the correct nurturing of his talent will become a good player in time. Matthews is a different kettle of fish altogether a player of real quality who has had his confidence smashed. I however agree that he would be far better utilised as a right sided midfielder but it is the managers job to give him the confidence required to go out and play on the park. In my view he has failed miderably to do so. The kid is a wasted talent at the moment. I would also add that it is my belief that we would play better as a team if Matthews was selected at right back and we switched McNaughton to left back as I feel even though he lacks experience he would do a far better job than Naylor as a full back, but what do I know I have never played high level football

and certainly not as high as Everton
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:17 pm
bluebirds23 wrote:could wildig do better job than mcphail at the mo tho? i would give matthews a blast down the right wing when burke does not play tho.
Wildig can't pass like Mcphail and never will be able too. Wildig in one on ones, is woeful in Championship standards.
He looks busy and that's about it busy but non productive.
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:28 pm
Any opinions on what Wildig is good at then? seem's to have gone a tad silent.
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:28 pm
My Opinion And Mine Only wrote:Any opinions on what Wildig is good at then? seem's to have gone a tad silent.

running sideways
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:29 pm
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:33 pm
My Opinion And Mine Only wrote:Any opinions on what Wildig is good at then? seem's to have gone a tad silent.

When he gets a decent manager maybe we'll find out

like I said for his age, 18, he shows good potential . Tell me what 18 year old is the finished article?
Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:43 pm
ihatealiens wrote:My Opinion And Mine Only wrote:Any opinions on what Wildig is good at then? seem's to have gone a tad silent.

When he gets a decent manager maybe we'll find out

like I said for his age, 18, he shows good potential . Tell me what 18 year old is the finished article?
What good potential does he show? In my opinion I haven't seen any to state he's a top championship player.
There is no doubt he will earn a living at the game but does not have the natural technical ability to play at a high level.
Many at 18 years old show their potential , Wildig doesn't .
Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:20 am
I believe he will become a very good player given time to develop, that's My Opinion And Mine Only

. I think we'll agree to disagree here mate and see what happens in the fullness of time,. Football is all about opinions and its great that we can air those opinions here without resorting to personal abuse.
Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:34 am
This guy hasnt got a clue.
Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:47 am
My Opinion And Mine Only wrote:could you tell me the following, how many times have you actually seen him play and could you tell me what he's actually good at?
The times I've seen Wildig play, he hasn't really set the game on fire, but he's done a decent job. He's still very young. Granted, he's not going to be playing for a top premiership team anytime soon, but he's still going to be a decent midfielder.
Are you forgetting he set up Chopra for the winner against the Scum last season?
Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:27 am
Think they both need to go out on loan, see how they do at a more basic level.. Think Matthews can become a top player just needs an arm round the shoulder as his confidence doesn't look all that at the moment.. Would prefer to see him on the wing we saw what he did to Leicester last year when he came on and ran at them however he's hardly likely to get a chance with Burkey starting there and Whittingham moved there when he's not available.. Wildig looks quality to me and I seem to be the only one who thinks it, he looks to have bulked up alot since the summer and beleive that he is very calm and collected in possession considering his age and lack of games not to mention can put a good tackle in.. I do think that both can do a job for the first team eventually IF they get the game time whether it be here or elsewhere..
Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:37 am
My Opinion And Mine Only wrote:Any opinions on what Wildig is good at then? seem's to have gone a tad silent.

i can remember wildig coming on up at west brom and turning the game in our favour with a great display.
without harping on how do you really expect the kids to develop with no reserve team fixtures for them to get playing time.
I believe with a reserve team we would have gone up by now as when we have a spate of injuries and suspensions we are throwing people into the games with no match fitness and no playing time.
He can bring 5 players to the club in january but the 5 that they will replace will just start to suffer from the same lack of game time and fitness as they drop to the bench.
WE NEED A RESERVE TEAM
Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:08 pm
a horse with no name wrote:ihatealiens wrote:With all due respect mate, thats utter bollox are you forgetting their both kids (both 18 years old) with plenty of potential and under the correct guidance will fulfill that potential. Don't forget Jones is the same guy who couldn't recognise the true value and quality of Aaron Ramsey and gave him away for under £5 million

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I don't trust him with the future of our kids, he doesn't exactly fill them with confidence.
i dont trust him with kids in general

Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:27 pm
To be honest I dont think either are good enough. Wildig is solid enough for the bench.
Matthews ive never been a massive fan, plenty of potential but thats all it seems....I dont believe he was ever worth 3/4/5m...just PR talking crap, we all know he would have took anything he could have for him if anyone was really interested.
Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:46 pm
what a load of bollocks.both are quality players who have not been given a chance by mr jones,only old and trusted im afraid with him.aaron when played has let nobody down,neither has adam.
Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:06 pm
Bowmonster wrote:a horse with no name wrote:ihatealiens wrote:With all due respect mate, thats utter bollox are you forgetting their both kids (both 18 years old) with plenty of potential and under the correct guidance will fulfill that potential. Don't forget Jones is the same guy who couldn't recognise the true value and quality of Aaron Ramsey and gave him away for under £5 million

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I don't trust him with the future of our kids, he doesn't exactly fill them with confidence.
i dont trust him with kids in general


That's a pathetic cheap shot if you want to make allegations about the DJ case have the guts to post your name
Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:49 pm
herefordblue wrote:what a load of bollocks.both are quality players who have not been given a chance by mr jones,only old and trusted im afraid with him.aaron when played has let nobody down,neither has adam.
I'm afraid that I don't think at all as you express " a load of bollocks" and jones and his back team clearly don't think so either. Jones makes this a very apparent in his press statement today when he talks Of new signings.
Jones and his team don't obviously rate these two players and whilst many may have their views on jones and his tactics his whole staff including himself would clearly know a high quality football skill when they see one.
Wildig as you say has not let the side down - but that doesn't mean he's a top quality football player, as I have said before he will in my opinion earn a living out of the game but not at this level or higher, lower league by all means is the place for a neat and tidy player with limited technical ability, hence why no large teams have ever made an approach for him.
Matthews on the other hand whilst having a bit more ability - lacks in confidence , his recent performances for Wales U19 clearly showed that, he even missed a penalty. Ridsdale overrated him for the Media , He got destroyed at Newcastle last season and has never recovered due to his lack of confidence. This once again has shown this season of which Jones highlighted.
In my opinion both are at a cross roads of their career at Cardiff and should move on for their own benefits and try and find first team football somewhere, because apart from my opinions on their ability , they won't get chances under Jones and in all honesty Cardiff is certainly not the place for young football players.
Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:56 pm
And truth be told both players in my opinion would have had more opportunity at Swansea City locally within their youth system, they would now both be playing reserve team football as well as first team action too, instead of just being stop gaps for injuries and squad shortages. I hate to say that because it involves Swansea but that's the reality . Joe Allen and the alike would still be in the wilderness under Jones .
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