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HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:15 am

I honestly believe DJ can get us to the prem I definetly think he deserves the rest of the season :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:16 am

DJ is a goner mate :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:19 am

no.

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:40 am

He cannot get the best out of the current squad and if VT gave him money to strengthen the squad whats to say he wouldn't buy more donkeys like this season.

He has to go sorry.

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:54 am

I think he deserves the rest of the season, we came so close last year and the man got us to an FA cup final! :ayatollah:
Who would replace him?

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:56 am

vicky wrote:I think he deserves the rest of the season, we came so close last year and the man got us to an FA cup final! :ayatollah:
Who would replace him?

who would replace him? not that old chestnut again :lol: :lol: :lol: Any one would swear he's the only manager out there :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:59 am

ihatealiens wrote:
vicky wrote:I think he deserves the rest of the season, we came so close last year and the man got us to an FA cup final! :ayatollah:
Who would replace him?

who would replace him? not that old chestnut again :lol: :lol: :lol: Any one would swear he's the only manager out there :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:59 am

No; and quite frankly, if his agent is touting him around, it's with DJ's knowledge.

Why keep a manager who has an eye elsewhere?

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:00 pm

time for him to go i think he will fail to take us up this season..
i can see where the people who are saying keep him are coming from as dave jones as down well but i think he needs to go to freshen things up..

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:06 pm

With the team we have we should have more points on the board than we do now. If he gets the boot, he only has himself to blame.

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:45 pm

NO, Every year he Bottles it and DEF HAS NO PLAN B.

Also fed up of hearing that he never has any money.

Just on a few players alone in one season,
Fowler £28,000 a week, Hasslebank, £15,000 a Week, Sinclair £10,000 a Week, Feeney £6,500 a Week plus Bonuses All of them plus many more.

Lets not even mention other Seasons Wages, Hudson Now on £14,000 a Week :lol:

I Could go on and on and on.
But its JUST MY BELIEVE THAT HE CANT TAKE US UP, I REALLY REALLY HOPE I AM WRONG and SHOULD BE AS WE HAVE THE BEST SQUAD IN THE DIVISION.

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:48 pm

nerd wrote:No; and quite frankly, if his agent is touting him around, it's with DJ's knowledge.

Why keep a manager who has an eye elsewhere?


Nerd, that is Gospel.

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:53 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
nerd wrote:No; and quite frankly, if his agent is touting him around, it's with DJ's knowledge.

Why keep a manager who has an eye elsewhere?


Nerd, that is Gospel.

Well if you know it Annis then i'm sure VT and TG know it as well and Jonesy will be up the road pronto. This knowledge may also effect his severence pay. Jonesy get your horses in the trailer your off :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:26 pm

I agree with what people are saying but still I think he can take us up. Maybe Ive just got to much shit in my eyes and need to open my eyes

What I struggle with is the fact that we are still in 2nd I know we should be 1st we have the best team in the league and like somebody mentioned a few weeks ago this is the easiest this league as been in years i just dont know the answer :lol: :lol:

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:38 pm

No hes not capable

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:05 pm

Yes I believe he will

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:17 pm

If 'Dinosaur stuck in the seventies never my fault 4-4-2 Jones' does manage to get us promoted I dread to think what will happen to us in the Prem. Jones gets out thought tactically in the Championship so heaven help us if we get promoted.

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:21 pm

Labby Doos wrote:If 'Dinosaur stuck in the seventies never my fault 4-4-2 Jones' does manage to get us promoted I dread to think what will happen to us in the Prem. Jones gets out thought tactically in the Championship so heaven help us if we get promoted.


Thats my problem i think that he is good enough to get us promoted but I dont think he has wat it takes in the premiership :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:31 pm

Mullins wrote:
Labby Doos wrote:If 'Dinosaur stuck in the seventies never my fault 4-4-2 Jones' does manage to get us promoted I dread to think what will happen to us in the Prem. Jones gets out thought tactically in the Championship so heaven help us if we get promoted.


Thats my problem i think that he is good enough to get us promoted but I dont think he has wat it takes in the premiership :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Not forgetting Alan Hanson :D :ayatollah:

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:33 pm

Mullins wrote:Thats my problem i think that he is good enough to get us promoted but I dont think he has wat it takes in the premiership :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

He managed in the Premiership before, for quite a few seasons. Managed to keep Southampton up despite being regular favourites for relegation

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:40 pm

What you have to ask yourself is if we dont go up this season then what ? Will VT stay ? DAve Jones has never and never will fall in love with this club and that is why our supporters have never taken to him. The only reason he is here is because we are the only mugs who will pay his massive wages. As a manager is he any good ? Well TBH no he isn't and there are a lot better than him and on a fraction of his wages. I would like to see someone with passion and in my opinion Dave Jones is part of the reason for the lack of atmosphere around the CCS. His lack of passion is transferred to the players and they transfer it on to the crowd and this has to change. So does DJ deserve his job to the end of the season ? DEF NO :cry:

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:05 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:What you have to ask yourself is if we dont go up this season then what ? Will VT stay ? DAve Jones has never and never will fall in love with this club and that is why our supporters have never taken to him. The only reason he is here is because we are the only mugs who will pay his massive wages. As a manager is he any good ? Well TBH no he isn't and there are a lot better than him and on a fraction of his wages. I would like to see someone with passion and in my opinion Dave Jones is part of the reason for the lack of atmosphere around the CCS. His lack of passion is transferred to the players and they transfer it on to the crowd and this has to change. So does DJ deserve his job to the end of the season ? DEF NO :cry:

I agree with part of this and part of it I don't. I agree with the point about his lack of passion, but that doesn't necessarily mean that this is the reason for any lack of success. Look at Wolves. You could never say McCarthy lacks passion, but they are absolutely shite. If a manager who lacks passion can take us to 2nd in the league, I'm happy. We could have an upturn in results, or we may continue on this bad run. Personally, I think we will turn things around soon, but the players have to take responsibility as well. I think that we, as fans, have some responsibility for the lack of atmosphere at the CCS, not the layout of the fans or anything else like that.

Dave Jones is/isn't a good manager? At this level, and there are far, far worse out there. I think we should get that straight. Yeah, he is on a huge wage for this level, but that is down to previous administrations, ie Sam Hammam, for agreeing to pay him that. You can't blame him for accepting what's on the table, or for negotiating that wage. Christ, I would, and i expect that everyone on here would, too. Dave Jones isn't a bad manager, but maybe he's an ordinary or average manager rather than a good one

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:20 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:What you have to ask yourself is if we dont go up this season then what ? Will VT stay ? DAve Jones has never and never will fall in love with this club and that is why our supporters have never taken to him. The only reason he is here is because we are the only mugs who will pay his massive wages. As a manager is he any good ? Well TBH no he isn't and there are a lot better than him and on a fraction of his wages. I would like to see someone with passion and in my opinion Dave Jones is part of the reason for the lack of atmosphere around the CCS. His lack of passion is transferred to the players and they transfer it on to the crowd and this has to change. So does DJ deserve his job to the end of the season ? DEF NO :cry:


A Very Good and Honest post Steve :ayatollah:

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:37 pm

Of course DJ deserves to be in charge, what he has done over the last 5 years or so has been brilliant, the amount of sh!t due to the Ridsdales and Hanmans has been shocking. Annis you bark on about how much wages he's paid etc, but think about how much he has made by buying cheap and selling for expensive

R.Johnson 275K sold 5 mill
Chops 500K sold 5 mill brought back for 3mill
Ross 100K sold 250K
Mclean free sold 500K
Burke Free now worth 2 mill
Bothroyd 200K now worth 4/5 mill
Whitts 275K now worth 2 mill

I could go on.............

Fowlers wage was far too much but most people were happy to see him here, know one would ever thought (at the time) we could get a player like him, the extra tickets, shirts etc would have gone a long way to paying for his wages.

Now im not stupid to admit that DJ has his faults and comes across as arrogent and not bothered, but lets face it, he's given us a lot of good years, i think some of supporters need a reality check, we have no devine right to be where we are.

I do however think DJ should get us up this year, as he has had money to get the players he wants, he actually has a big enough squad for once, so if at the end of the season we arent promoted then maybe it is time to say thank you very much but its time to move on. To want him sacked now is pathetic! :ayatollah:

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Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:43 pm

Sir Gallagher wrote:Of course DJ deserves to be in charge, what he has done over the last 5 years or so has been brilliant, the amount of sh!t due to the Ridsdales and Hanmans has been shocking. Annis you bark on about how much wages he's paid etc, but think about how much he has made by buying cheap and selling for expensive

R.Johnson 275K sold 5 mill
Chops 500K sold 5 mill brought back for 3mill
Ross 100K sold 250K
Mclean free sold 500K
Burke Free now worth 2 mill
Bothroyd 200K now worth 4/5 mill
Whitts 275K now worth 2 mill

I could go on.............

Fowlers wage was far too much but most people were happy to see him here, know one would ever thought (at the time) we could get a player like him, the extra tickets, shirts etc would have gone a long way to paying for his wages.

Now im not stupid to admit that DJ has his faults and comes across as arrogent and not bothered, but lets face it, he's given us a lot of good years, i think some of supporters need a reality check, we have no devine right to be where we are.

I do however think DJ should get us up this year, as he has had money to get the players he wants, he actually has a big enough squad for once, so if at the end of the season we arent promoted then maybe it is time to say thank you very much but its time to move on. To want him sacked now is pathetic! :ayatollah:




Sir Gall, I never started this topic, but on your FIRST ever post you singled me out, this is my short reply I COULD WRITE A BOOK

Burke Free now worth 2 mill
Bothroyd 200K now worth 4/5 mill

BOTH OUT OF CONTRACT THANKS TO DJ, NOW WORTH NOTHING :evil:



Having the Biggest Wage out side The Premiership.
Having Spent more money on Transfers and WAGES IN THE HISTORY OF CARDIFF CITY.
No Respect for Our Fans.
Claims Our Club HAS NO HISTORY.
Great Managers Win Trophies/Titles and Promotions, Jones is yet to Win One.
Cant be Bothered With Our player of the year Do(First time in 25 years had to be cancelled), Childrens Xmas do etc etc.
Anti Welsh.
Anti Welsh Youngsters coming through.
Brings injury prone players on old pals act or Donkeys Like Naylor/Keogh/Kennedy/Cooper etc
Over paid players like Eddie Johnson/Fowler/Hasslebank/Hudson/Sinclair/Koumas even My Mate Warren Feeney was Stunned by his Wage.
His type of striker is Eddie Johnson, £20,000 a week for a Season.
IN 112 GAMES, WHEN WE ARE 1 NIL DOWN DAVE JONES IN NEARLY 6 YEARS HAS NOW COME BACK TO WIN APPROX 9 GAMES,WORST RECORD IN HISTORY FOR A LEAGUE MANAGER.

Just a FEW OF MY REASONS WHY I FEEL HE SHOULD NOT BE OUR MANAGER or BE APPRECIATED, Just MY OPINION WITH FACTS TO BACK IT UP.

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:57 pm

I singled a comment out by you, which i disagreed with and backed it up, nothing personal.

Well done for writing a book, very impressed :o

Is it really Jones fault about the contracts? the way the money was last year and before the takeover he wasnt in the position to get contracts sorted. Even if they they do go for nothing, they are part of the reason why we are in the top 2, why we are an established Champ club, got the play off final etc Players who DJ got the best out of!

At the end of the day we all have different opinions on different ppl at the club!

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:59 pm

Sir Gallagher wrote:I singled a comment out by you, which i disagreed with and backed it up, nothing personal.

Well done for writing a book, very impressed :o

Is it really Jones fault about the contracts? the way the money was last year and before the takeover he wasnt in the position to get contracts sorted. Even if they they do go for nothing, they are part of the reason why we are in the top 2, why we are an established Champ club, got the play off final etc Players who DJ got the best out of!

At the end of the day we all have different opinions on different ppl at the club!


Cheers, Yes DJ took ALL Contracts over and listens to No one.

I Answered your Opinion, PLEASE ANSWER MINE :ayatollah:


Having the Biggest Wage out side The Premiership.
Having Spent more money on Transfers and WAGES IN THE HISTORY OF CARDIFF CITY.
No Respect for Our Fans.
Claims Our Club HAS NO HISTORY.
Great Managers Win Trophies/Titles and Promotions, Jones is yet to Win One.
Cant be Bothered With Our player of the year Do(First time in 25 years had to be cancelled), Childrens Xmas do etc etc.
Anti Welsh.
Anti Welsh Youngsters coming through.
Brings injury prone players on old pals act or Donkeys Like Naylor/Keogh/Kennedy/Cooper etc
Over paid players like Eddie Johnson/Fowler/Hasslebank/Hudson/Sinclair/Koumas even My Mate Warren Feeney was Stunned by his Wage.
His type of striker is Eddie Johnson, £20,000 a week for a Season.
IN 112 GAMES, WHEN WE ARE 1 NIL DOWN DAVE JONES IN NEARLY 6 YEARS HAS NOW COME BACK TO WIN APPROX 9 GAMES,WORST RECORD IN HISTORY FOR A LEAGUE MANAGER.

Just a FEW OF MY REASONS WHY I FEEL HE SHOULD NOT BE OUR MANAGER or BE APPRECIATED, Just MY OPINION WITH FACTS TO BACK IT UP.

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:20 pm

Having the Biggest Wage out side The Premiership. - NOT HIS FAULT HE TAKES WHAT HE WAS OFFERED MOST PPL WOULD DO THE SAMEHaving Spent more money on Transfers and WAGES IN THE HISTORY OF CARDIFF CITY. - HE HAS GENERATED THE MOST MONEY IN CARDIFFS HISTORY WITH SALES AND ASSISTS THAT WE HAVE, THIS BY FAR OUTWEIGHS THE MONEY SPENT ON TRANSFERSNo Respect for Our Fans. - THE WAY HE GETS TREATED BY SOME IM NOT SUPRISED
Claims Our Club HAS NO HISTORY. - DISAGREE WITH HIMGreat Managers Win Trophies/Titles and Promotions, Jones is yet to Win One. - LOOK AT THE CLUBS HE HAS MANAGED, NOT LIKELY TO WIN MUCH, TO GET US TO THE fa CUP FINAL, WITH A SIDE LIKE OURS IS A BIGGER ACHIEVEMENT THAN WHAT LOTS OF TOP MANAGERS HAVE DONE.Cant be Bothered With Our player of the year Do(First time in 25 years had to be cancelled), Childrens Xmas do etc etc. - HE WAS WRONGAnti Welsh. DONT REALLY KNOW ABOUT THAT
Anti Welsh Youngsters coming through. dISAGREE WITH YOU, WILDIG, MATTHEWS, GUNTER, RAMSEY, LEDLEYBrings injury prone players on old pals act or Donkeys Like Naylor/Keogh/Kennedy/Cooper etc KEOGH IS HIGHLY RATED BY MANAGER MANAGERS, BUT I AGREE HASNT SHOWN IT YET. KENNEDY DID A CRACKING JOB FOR US. COOPER WAS AT THE TIME WHEN JUST SIMPLY NEEDED PLAYERS, NAYLOR AWFULOver paid players like Eddie Johnson/Fowler/Hasslebank/Hudson/Sinclair/Koumas even My Mate Warren Feeney was Stunned by his Wage. NO NEED TO NAME DROP COULDNT CARE LESS WHAT FEENEY THINKS, BUT YES MOST WERE OVERPAID.His type of striker is Eddie Johnson, £20,000 a week for a Season. OR BOTHROYD WHO COST 200K AND IS THE BEST STRIKER IN LEAGUE!¬IN 112 GAMES, WHEN WE ARE 1 NIL DOWN DAVE JONES IN NEARLY 6 YEARS HAS NOW COME BACK TO WIN APPROX 9 GAMES,WORST RECORD IN HISTORY FOR A LEAGUE MANAGER. NOT THE BEST RECORD ADMITTIDLY.
wHICH COMES DOWN TO YES HE MAKES MISTAKES AS EVERY MANAGER DOES, BUT STILL HIS POSITIVES OUTWEGH HIS NEGATIVES IN MY OPINION.

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:32 pm

No not a chance.. Time for Mr Jones to go, before he waste's january's transfer pot.

Re: HONEST OPINIONS CAN DJ GET US UP

Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:51 pm

Left to his own devices DJ will never get us promoted as he WILL bottle it.

However, if there is the remotest chance of him pulling off a miracle then someone has to kick his arrogant arse every single day. That man has to be Vincent Tan, but I would like to inform our determined owner that he is not alone and this forum will always stand ready to lend him a hand.