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" ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:53 am

I read these Sad Messages Virtually every Few Days.

Could Someone Tell Me Why Our Country/Brave Soldiers are Fighting in Afghanistan ?
I am Fully behind our Soldiers what ever happens.
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Will any of you be willing to donate your status for just a few moments to HONOR a fallen hero who passed away while fighting for our country. RIP to CPL Derek Wyatt who died on the 6 December while serving in Afghanistan, he left behind a wife and a new born son who came into this world approx 24 hours after this heart breaking news. Re-post this to honor this Welsh Guard hero!!!

RIP
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Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:00 am

annis they are there to stop those f*cking idiot extremists from spreading death to innocent people around the world, all who are there fighting this cause and should be in our thoughts ans prayers daily :ayatollah:RIP all our brave soldiers

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:18 am

well said Baz ................. cant let these raghead bastards rule the world with terror , altho our troops are falling and its so sad to hear about them its a small price to pay for the bigger picture . Not small to the families concerned I know BUT the guys out there are doing a job and each and every 1 of them knows that and are proud to serve and proud to be there . Thoughts with ALL the familes who have lost a HERO !

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:26 am

This is why I always give to Help for hero's when approached. Our service personnel are daily putting their lives at risk to protect us from these fanatics.

God bless them.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:38 am

bluebirdbaz wrote:annis they are there to stop those f*cking idiot extremists from spreading death to innocent people around the world, all who are there fighting this cause and should be in our thoughts ans prayers daily :ayatollah:RIP all our brave soldiers

my heart goes out to the soldier and his family at this very sad time! but baz, what do you expect these extremists to do while we are illegally causing mayhem in their countries and continuing to support the israeli actions in palestine? because these are the reasons there are extremists!

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:43 am

illegal mayhem ??????????????????? open ur eyes mate ffs !

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:49 am

Vintage 63 wrote:illegal mayhem ??????????????????? open ur eyes mate ffs !

i think its you that should open your eyes! since world war two we have sat back and watched the israelis cause avoke in palastine and continue to this day to let them do what they like to innocent people! ... as for us out in iraq, its an illegal invasion and bush and blair should be strung up for it. they have blood on their hands! .... i do feel sorry for the soldier and his family, i honestly do!

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:54 am

cant and wont let terrorists rule the world ..................... anyway I am not interested what Israel do despite my surname , this post is about British troops doing their bit for Queen and Country ! If u got any gripes with Israel then I suggest u contact their embassy in London or indeed just like Richard the 3rd did and go on a crusade :lol:

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:58 am

Vintage 63 wrote:cant and wont let terrorists rule the world ..................... anyway I am not interested what Israel do despite my surname , this post is about British troops doing their bit for Queen and Country ! If u got any gripes with Israel then I suggest u contact their embassy in London or indeed just like Richard the 3rd did and go on a crusade :lol:

but its got everything to do with israel. why do you think the arab world hates the west! if it wasnt for the trouble in israel we`d never have had a problem in the first place.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:02 am

all wars caused by religion ur gonna say then ............... well read the bible and ur most prob correct there mate ! So ur saying that if there wasnt a problem with Israel then the likes of the Falkland's etc would never have happened too ? I always thought that Israel is in the EAST and not the WEST so why do terrorists seem to attack the West so much ????

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:03 am

but its got everything to do with israel. why do you think the arab world hates the west! if it wasnt for the trouble in israel we`d never have had a problem in the first place.


Mate it goes back a hell of it a lot further than that. Try Cyrus of Persia and Darius the King of Kings.


Anyway the thread was honouring the fallen. #
My sympathy goes to family and friends.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:05 am

Vintage 63 wrote:all wars caused by religion ur gonna say then ............... well read the bible and ur most prob correct there mate ! So ur saying that if there wasnt a problem with Israel then the likes of the Falkland's etc would never have happened too ? I always thought that Israel is in the EAST and not the WEST so why do terrorists seem to attack the West so much ????

they tried fight back in the east but the yanks gave the israelis everything they needed to win! GOD IT TO EARLY FOR THIS! :lol: f**k it vintage lets talk football ffs! :lol:

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:07 am

griff105 wrote:
but its got everything to do with israel. why do you think the arab world hates the west! if it wasnt for the trouble in israel we`d never have had a problem in the first place.


Mate it goes back a hell of it a lot further than that. Try Cyrus of Persia and Darius the King of Kings.


Anyway the thread was honouring the fallen. #
My sympathy goes to family and friends.

:ayatollah:

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:09 am

AHERNE wrote:
Vintage 63 wrote:cant and wont let terrorists rule the world ..................... anyway I am not interested what Israel do despite my surname , this post is about British troops doing their bit for Queen and Country ! If u got any gripes with Israel then I suggest u contact their embassy in London or indeed just like Richard the 3rd did and go on a crusade :lol:

but its got everything to do with israel. why do you think the arab world hates the west! if it wasnt for the trouble in israel we`d never have had a problem in the first place.


First off RIP the young soldier who lost his life. A waste of a young life.

I do agree though aherne until the israeli situation is resolved we are going to continue to see attacks on the west.

Israel has behaved like a rogue state for yrs. Until the US snd UK take a stronger line with israeli agression our young soldiers will continue to die and we will continue to be a target in the west.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:10 am

as Annis would say ............... we need to draw a line under this now :ayatollah:

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:11 am

AHERNE wrote:
Vintage 63 wrote:cant and wont let terrorists rule the world ..................... anyway I am not interested what Israel do despite my surname , this post is about British troops doing their bit for Queen and Country ! If u got any gripes with Israel then I suggest u contact their embassy in London or indeed just like Richard the 3rd did and go on a crusade :lol:

but its got everything to do with israel. why do you think the arab world hates the west! if it wasnt for the trouble in israel we`d never have had a problem in the first place.


First off RIP the young soldier who lost his life. A waste of a young life.

I do agree though aherne until the israeli situation is resolved we are going to continue to see attacks on the west.

Israel has behaved like a rogue state for yrs. Until the US snd UK take a stronger line with israeli agression our young soldiers will continue to die and we will continue to be a target in the west.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:12 am

AHERNE wrote:
bluebirdbaz wrote:annis they are there to stop those f*cking idiot extremists from spreading death to innocent people around the world, all who are there fighting this cause and should be in our thoughts ans prayers daily :ayatollah:RIP all our brave soldiers

my heart goes out to the soldier and his family at this very sad time! but baz, what do you expect these extremists to do while we are illegally causing mayhem in their countries and continuing to support the israeli actions in palestine? because these are the reasons there are extremists!

You are a Joke Chief. :evil:

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:14 am

We went into Afghan originally to rid the Taliban as they were hiding and funding Al Queda. After 9/11, something had to be done. I fully backed the Afghan and Iraq wars. Hundreds of thousands of Kurds were murdered by Saddam. And the Taliban were just as ruthless. Throwing acid over any woman who dared read a book, stone any woman who revealed her face to a man, and skin men alive because they disagreed with Taliban methods.

When the threat of terrorism was next door in Ireland, no one moaned about our troops being there. But because Afghan is thousands of miles away, its a case of out of sight, out of mind, so why get involved?

Martyn, I think it speaks volumes that a former military man like you is for it. My brother served in Iraq twice and he truly believed he was doing good there.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:44 pm

It makes me go mad, I really wish I could be out there with them

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:54 pm

i have family out there fighting. my cousan is in the paratroopers, most of his close mates dies in one explosion. he returned home a few weeks back and is now a mess, turned to alcohol, and is mentally fucked. hes gone back out there now, but is a totally different person. :cry:

but they all do a great job, even if they dont get the help (with mental issues/illness) financially etc :twisted:

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:03 pm

The Stockholm suicide Bomber was a UK resident. There lies much of the issues.

RIP Another fine soldier and a wasted life.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:04 pm

Milly this is where H4H come into their own as the military tend to wash their hands with ex soldiers with problems .... hope he's doing ok tho ?

Hannah maybe its the current and ex forces guys who think 1 thing whereas others dont quite see what's going on as terrorists only know 1 language then hide behind politics when it suits them , at the end of the day if it wasnt for the fact that the world would have outcast Britain then the Irish situation would have been totally different too IMO ? I think its funny that USA pumped millions into the IRA but now when Ireland is on its arse skint they put in nothing :twisted:

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:37 pm

Billy Hunt. wrote:It makes me go mad, I really wish I could be out there with them

billy,please dont become another wasted young BRITISH life,when i was your age war broke out in the falklands 10000s of miles away,but i felt that british people were at risk and i to wanted to do my bit,but iraq afghanistan etc,this is about minerals etc,we were never under threat,this has happened since we invaded these coutries.but as iv said before i support 2 charities ty hafan and the poppy appeal,,it hurts me to see young brave men (and women)like yourself sacrificed and in my honest opinion needlessly.my thoughts are for all our servicemen killed during these conflicts. :(

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:41 pm

My Opinion And Mine Only wrote:The Stockholm suicide Bomber was a UK resident. There lies much of the issues.

RIP Another fine soldier and a wasted life.


Yes, I agree, The Main problems are Now in Our Own Back yard. We Need Also to Sort out These Extremists in This Country.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:51 pm

RIP to the lad, I hope he's in a better place.

my lad is back out there come March April for the third time. He doesnt think we
are doing one bit of good. its all cosmetic. He has had to watch while Afghan police
drag young boys into compounds smiling AT him and his mates, then coming out
an hour later once these poor kids have been well and truly 'interrogated'.. They are
forced to sit on their hands and do nothing. Every school, every Library, every
medical centre the Allies have built will be blown to bits within a year of us pulling
out.

Put simply by my son (who is quite bright, must be off his mother)... when we leave..
the very first school blown up, the very first teacher beheaded, the very first child
murdered will mean everyone of the brave lads who have lost their lives will have been
for nothing. Afghanistan will be back to square one, and we all know its going to happen!

Thankfully, for the majority of our boys. They dont give a f**k about Afghanistan, or
its government, or our government, or flags, religion or race... they are only arsed
about their oppo's. The lads next to them who are knee deep in shit. THATS who they
are fighting for!

Al Q'aida???

We have the SRR now (undercover special forces) they are patrolling the streets of Britain.
They are alleged to be about 150 strong, even less numbers than the SBS... The trillions of
pounds we have wasted in Afghanistan could EASILY make Britain a safe place to live. Just
imagine 1500 of these undercover lads, or 3000!!!.... these Muslim bombers wouldnt have a
f*cking chance. Pakistanis etc are forever disappearing anyway. Abdul bummed the wrong
little boy, or kissed the wrong girl... back of a van.... straight to the abbatoir and away we
go.... Just let our Special Forces loose on them in Britain and they'd soon wind their necks in!!

Oh, just as a disclaimer, before the PC boys jump on me... this would apply to the Christian bombers
and terrorists too. (ooops there arent any)

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:56 pm

taffyapple wrote:RIP to the lad, I hope he's in a better place.

my lad is back out there come March April for the third time. He doesnt think we
are doing one bit of good. its all cosmetic. He has had to watch while Afghan police
drag young boys into compounds smiling AT him and his mates, then coming out
an hour later once these poor kids have been well and truly 'interrogated'.. They are
forced to sit on their hands and do nothing. Every school, every Library, every
medical centre the Allies have built will be blown to bits within a year of us pulling
out.

Put simply by my son (who is quite bright, must be off his mother)... when we leave..
the very first school blown up, the very first teacher beheaded, the very first child
murdered will mean everyone of the brave lads who have lost their lives will have been
for nothing. Afghanistan will be back to square one, and we all know its going to happen!

Thankfully, for the majority of our boys. They dont give a f**k about Afghanistan, or
its government, or our government, or flags, religion or race... they are only arsed
about their oppo's. The lads next to them who are knee deep in shit. THATS who they
are fighting for!

Al Q'aida???

We have the SRR now (undercover special forces) they are patrolling the streets of Britain.
They are alleged to be about 150 strong, even less numbers than the SBS... The trillions of
pounds we have wasted in Afghanistan could EASILY make Britain a safe place to live. Just
imagine 1500 of these undercover lads, or 3000!!!.... these Muslim bombers wouldnt have a
f*cking chance. Pakistanis etc are forever disappearing anyway. Abdul bummed the wrong
little boy, or kissed the wrong girl... back of a van.... straight to the abbatoir and away we
go.... Just let our Special Forces loose on them in Britain and they'd soon wind their necks in!!

Oh, just as a disclaimer, before the PC boys jump on me... this would apply to the Christian bombers
and terrorists too. (ooops there arent any)

i wish your boy a safe trip,i totally asgree with everything you said and my opinion is posted just above yours,goodluck :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:06 pm

krab wrote:
taffyapple wrote:RIP to the lad, I hope he's in a better place.

my lad is back out there come March April for the third time. He doesnt think we
are doing one bit of good. its all cosmetic. He has had to watch while Afghan police
drag young boys into compounds smiling AT him and his mates, then coming out
an hour later once these poor kids have been well and truly 'interrogated'.. They are
forced to sit on their hands and do nothing. Every school, every Library, every
medical centre the Allies have built will be blown to bits within a year of us pulling
out.

Put simply by my son (who is quite bright, must be off his mother)... when we leave..
the very first school blown up, the very first teacher beheaded, the very first child
murdered will mean everyone of the brave lads who have lost their lives will have been
for nothing. Afghanistan will be back to square one, and we all know its going to happen!

Thankfully, for the majority of our boys. They dont give a f**k about Afghanistan, or
its government, or our government, or flags, religion or race... they are only arsed
about their oppo's. The lads next to them who are knee deep in shit. THATS who they
are fighting for!

Al Q'aida???

We have the SRR now (undercover special forces) they are patrolling the streets of Britain.
They are alleged to be about 150 strong, even less numbers than the SBS... The trillions of
pounds we have wasted in Afghanistan could EASILY make Britain a safe place to live. Just
imagine 1500 of these undercover lads, or 3000!!!.... these Muslim bombers wouldnt have a
f*cking chance. Pakistanis etc are forever disappearing anyway. Abdul bummed the wrong
little boy, or kissed the wrong girl... back of a van.... straight to the abbatoir and away we
go.... Just let our Special Forces loose on them in Britain and they'd soon wind their necks in!!

Oh, just as a disclaimer, before the PC boys jump on me... this would apply to the Christian bombers
and terrorists too. (ooops there arent any)

i wish your boy a safe trip,i totally asgree with everything you said and my opinion is posted just above yours,goodluck :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Ta mate. Appreciate that! :ayatollah:

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:36 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:annis they are there to stop those f*cking idiot extremists from spreading death to innocent people around the world, all who are there fighting this cause and should be in our thoughts ans prayers daily :ayatollah:RIP all our brave soldiers


Baz, Personally I think were making things Worse by being there, We Wont Win, You cant Blow up Thousands of Caves, Russia Could not Defeat them in 10 years of Trying.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:00 pm

Annis I have said this to you in the past I think if we weren't fighting these guys there we would be fighting them here. ALL members of the military are volunteers. We are not forced to join up.

When I went to Afghanistan I said to my parents that if the worst was to happen then I didn't want any of my family slating the government or Blair/Brown etc as I am a volunteer and I know that being in the military means I may have to go to places like this. I feel I am making our country stronger and lots of soldiers do. IF we pull out now it is a sign of weakness and they will take advantage.

I am merely in the RAF and not a front line soldier like the heroes in the Army/Marines etc. I am sure a lot of them (not all) feel the same as me. Anyone who doesn't can put in their papers and leave.

I remember once around the time of Iraq kicking off an RAF guy said whilst training to prepare to go out "I didn't join up to go to war." He was slated massively and rightly so.

Re: " ANOTHER FALLEN HERO "

Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:02 pm

maccydee wrote:Annis I have said this to you in the past I think if we weren't fighting these guys there we would be fighting them here. ALL members of the military are volunteers. We are not forced to join up.

When I went to Afghanistan I said to my parents that if the worst was to happen then I didn't want any of my family slating the government or Blair/Brown etc as I am a volunteer and I know that being in the military means I may have to go to places like this. I feel I am making our country stronger and lots of soldiers do. IF we pull out now it is a sign of weakness and they will take advantage.

I am merely in the RAF and not a front line soldier like the heroes in the Army/Marines etc. I am sure a lot of them (not all) feel the same as me. Anyone who doesn't can put in their papers and leave.

I remember once around the time of Iraq kicking off an RAF guy said whilst training to prepare to go out "I didn't join up to go to war." He was slated massively and rightly so.




Neil, I HAVE TOTAL RESPECT FOR YOU and YOUR COMMENTS :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: