Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:47 pm
Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:48 pm
taffyapple wrote:Blakey, Jason Perry and the likes are PAID to offer their opinions on Cardiff City.
Its part of their job. Same as Linker Lawrenson and Hansen on MOTD. If they
feel the need to criticise, then they must see something is not right, same as
we all do, same as Bellamy admitted about Saturday. Craig knows he's not at
his best and I respect the feller for admitting it.
Dave Jones was either watching a different game Saturday, or is just making a
point of sticking up for the players in public. Commendable in one way, but the
best thing DJ can do for the team, the club and for the fans is have a f*cking
hard look at himself and realise he's FAILING at the moment, sooner than looking
to shift the blame ANYWHERE else.
As an ex footballer himself, surely Jones doesnt think our players go on the pitch and
struggle because they are traumatised by Jason Perry saying "so and so wasnt at
his best last week, he looks to be struggling"... How the f**k are these poor poor
lads supposed to cope if we ever get to the Premiership? What would Jones' reaction
be to Alan Hansen saying "Hudson was abysmal today, shocking, terrible, the noo"
As an ex semi-pro myself... if somebody criticised my performance, committment
or attitude one week... I would bust a gut to prove the bugger wrong next game.
EVERY ONE of our players has that attitude believe me. Nobody falls by accident into
a job playing professional football at this level. They are all driven, determined and
single-minded. At this moment something is not right. Its not one player, its the
whole group. My fear is, if the Manager is part of that problem then things are not
likely to change, because he is not likely to see it himself, or admit he MIGHT be
doing something wrong
Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:58 pm
Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:01 pm
Vintage 63 wrote:I think the point thats trying to made here is that at the mo in this league CCFC shud be at least 9 points clear at the top and NOT hanging onto 2nd , which to an impartial outsider is a good position to be in , with the unthinkable prospect of the Jacks going 2nd come Fri nite ! Agreed City are not battling relegation and therefore why are the fans moaning about the current league position BUT this is CCFC and as we all know they have a recent habbit of throwing things away from good positions and NOT cementing stronger positions when they are in them .
Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:43 pm
taffyapple wrote:Blakey, Jason Perry and the likes are PAID to offer their opinions on Cardiff City.
Its part of their job. Same as Linker Lawrenson and Hansen on MOTD. If they
feel the need to criticise, then they must see something is not right, same as
we all do, same as Bellamy admitted about Saturday. Craig knows he's not at
his best and I respect the feller for admitting it.
Dave Jones was either watching a different game Saturday, or is just making a
point of sticking up for the players in public. Commendable in one way, but the
best thing DJ can do for the team, the club and for the fans is have a f*cking
hard look at himself and realise he's FAILING at the moment, sooner than looking
to shift the blame ANYWHERE else.
As an ex footballer himself, surely Jones doesnt think our players go on the pitch and
struggle because they are traumatised by Jason Perry saying "so and so wasnt at
his best last week, he looks to be struggling"... How the f**k are these poor poor
lads supposed to cope if we ever get to the Premiership? What would Jones' reaction
be to Alan Hansen saying "Hudson was abysmal today, shocking, terrible, the noo"
As an ex semi-pro myself... if somebody criticised my performance, committment
or attitude one week... I would bust a gut to prove the bugger wrong next game.
EVERY ONE of our players has that attitude believe me. Nobody falls by accident into
a job playing professional football at this level. They are all driven, determined and
single-minded. At this moment something is not right. Its not one player, its the
whole group. My fear is, if the Manager is part of that problem then things are not
likely to change, because he is not likely to see it himself, or admit he MIGHT be
doing something wrong
Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:51 pm
bluebirds23 wrote:Vintage 63 wrote:I think the point thats trying to made here is that at the mo in this league CCFC shud be at least 9 points clear at the top and NOT hanging onto 2nd , which to an impartial outsider is a good position to be in , with the unthinkable prospect of the Jacks going 2nd come Fri nite ! Agreed City are not battling relegation and therefore why are the fans moaning about the current league position BUT this is CCFC and as we all know they have a recent habbit of throwing things away from good positions and NOT cementing stronger positions when they are in them .
its all ifs and buts. we cardiff city are we ever happy ? even if we win we pick at stuff, yes i think the jacks will be 2nd come sat.
Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:01 pm
bluebirds23 wrote:taffyapple wrote:Blakey, Jason Perry and the likes are PAID to offer their opinions on Cardiff City.
Its part of their job. Same as Linker Lawrenson and Hansen on MOTD. If they
feel the need to criticise, then they must see something is not right, same as
we all do, same as Bellamy admitted about Saturday. Craig knows he's not at
his best and I respect the feller for admitting it.
Dave Jones was either watching a different game Saturday, or is just making a
point of sticking up for the players in public. Commendable in one way, but the
best thing DJ can do for the team, the club and for the fans is have a f*cking
hard look at himself and realise he's FAILING at the moment, sooner than looking
to shift the blame ANYWHERE else.
As an ex footballer himself, surely Jones doesnt think our players go on the pitch and
struggle because they are traumatised by Jason Perry saying "so and so wasnt at
his best last week, he looks to be struggling"... How the f**k are these poor poor
lads supposed to cope if we ever get to the Premiership? What would Jones' reaction
be to Alan Hansen saying "Hudson was abysmal today, shocking, terrible, the noo"
As an ex semi-pro myself... if somebody criticised my performance, committment
or attitude one week... I would bust a gut to prove the bugger wrong next game.
EVERY ONE of our players has that attitude believe me. Nobody falls by accident into
a job playing professional football at this level. They are all driven, determined and
single-minded. At this moment something is not right. Its not one player, its the
whole group. My fear is, if the Manager is part of that problem then things are not
likely to change, because he is not likely to see it himself, or admit he MIGHT be
doing something wrong
sounds like we 2nd from bottom
Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:29 pm
Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:43 pm
diacap wrote:Taffyapple - its not like you to have a go at DJ. Give it a rest man.Change the record.
We all feel in hindsight some mistakes have been made ( against Swansea especially ) . I am sure DJ realises where he went wrong that day. DJ stood up for the players and the club on Saturday, and tried to calm the mb gossip about internal rifts , but whatever he says he can't win with some people.
He has without doubt been the most successful city manager of the last 40 years based on results and league positions, and deserves some respect for what he has acheived in often difficult circumstances.
I have no doubt he is under more pressure this year than he has ever been 'in this part of the world', so try and give him some support - if you can't do that please try and stop going on and on and on .
Cheers
Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:54 pm
samuelarthurbrains wrote:diacap wrote:Taffyapple - its not like you to have a go at DJ. Give it a rest man.Change the record.
We all feel in hindsight some mistakes have been made ( against Swansea especially ) . I am sure DJ realises where he went wrong that day. DJ stood up for the players and the club on Saturday, and tried to calm the mb gossip about internal rifts , but whatever he says he can't win with some people.
He has without doubt been the most successful city manager of the last 40 years based on results and league positions, and deserves some respect for what he has acheived in often difficult circumstances.
I have no doubt he is under more pressure this year than he has ever been 'in this part of the world', so try and give him some support - if you can't do that please try and stop going on and on and on .
Cheers
Dave Jones never realises or admitts when he is wrong, he is ignorant and arrogant. When he gives supporters respect then they might give him some respect. Even my missus who knows sweet FA about football and doesnt want to know thinks Jones is a boring tw@t with no personality. His lack of personality and passion is so very often evident in the way City play.
Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:08 pm
diacap wrote:Taffyapple - its not like you to have a go at DJ. Give it a rest man.Change the record.
We all feel in hindsight some mistakes have been made ( against Swansea especially ) . I am sure DJ realises where he went wrong that day. DJ stood up for the players and the club on Saturday, and tried to calm the mb gossip about internal rifts , but whatever he says he can't win with some people.
He has without doubt been the most successful city manager of the last 40 years based on results and league positions, and deserves some respect for what he has acheived in often difficult circumstances.
I have no doubt he is under more pressure this year than he has ever been 'in this part of the world', so try and give him some support - if you can't do that please try and stop going on and on and on .
Cheers
Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:23 pm
Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:34 pm
Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:42 pm